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Britain's Best Current Account?

Published 10 July 2008 in Get the best deal

Could a current account that pays zero interest be the best in Britain? Find out which bank we're talking about - and why we think it's so good!

Last month, I wrote about how rejuvenated bank Abbey launched a range of market leading products, placing them in best buy tables across the board.

I then posed the question if Abbey could be Britain’s Best All-Round Bank, examining the pros and cons of products on offer, including their current account, which pays an impressive 8% AER.

What followed surprised me.

Fools posted dozens of negative comments about Abbey’s service, and how the bank's service fell well short of the mark. This in turn made me think that when it comes to choosing a bank, perhaps rates don’t always rule.

After all, often you don't have a grasp of how good your bank is until something goes wrong. By that time, things are probably well out of hand, and you could be left sorting out a mess with an incompetent bank – or worse, one you feel simply doesn't care.

So, in an effort to redress the balance, I want to look at another bank which has got Fool readers talking – this time, for all the right reasons.

That bank is First Direct.

You may find this strange. While other banks  attempt to reel you in with tasty rates, First Direct doesn't bother, offering zero interest on its current accounts. 

But this bank has been widely praised by Fool readers for its efficient service. So, when it comes to day-to-day banking, is it simply the case that high interest rates can’t buy financial love?

First Impressions?

It’s not been all rosy at First Direct, and on first glance, you could be forgiven for thinking that I’m talking about a different bank altogether.

For example, last February First Direct hit the headlines after announcing that it was to charge all customers who didn’t pay at least £1,500 a month into their current account a monthly fee of £10. (You can also avoid the fee by taking out another First Direct product, such as a loan or savings account).

As if that wasn’t enough, in November they announced that they were no longer going to pay interest on their current accounts.

Bearing this in mind, you may think that opting for an account which pays a higher rate of interest, such as the juicy 8.5% you’d get for a year with Alliance and Leicester’s Premier Direct current account (on balances up to £2,500) would be the better option. In addition, you only have to pay in a minimum balance of £500 to qualify for the A&L account.

However, as you may have already guessed, those who bank with First Direct don’t usually do so for the monetary gains.

Reputation Over Rates

Time and time again, First Direct has been praised for its quick, efficient service, with people, not machines at the end of the telephone 24 hours a day – even on Christmas Day.

Here are just a couple of examples of praise from fellow Fools from a recent article I wrote on banking:

Scot82: I've had, and been happy with, a First Direct Current account for about 5 years now. Their customer service has always been good and they have a simple online banking facility which is ideal for my needs.

FoolLandlord: I mean, what other bank will open a savings account for you at 2 in the morning?!

Nice words from two Fool readers, but, if we’re purely talking numbers, First Direct comes up with some pretty good ones too.

A Welcome Boost

As a welcome present, First Direct will give you a £100 when you switch over and pay in at least £1,500 a month to its ‘1st current account’. In fact, they are so confident you’ll like them that, if after six months you’re not satisfied, they’ll give you another £100 for the pleasure of leaving.

And, despite not paying any interest on their current account, it’s not much worse than the derisory interest rates paid by other banks. For example, both NatWest and First Direct’s sister bank HSBC pay just 0.1% on their standard current accounts, with fellow bank Barclays paying no interest on its account.

Here are some of the other benefits of banking with First Direct:

•         The 1st Account comes with a £250 interest-free overdraft. Any agreed overdraft used above this level is charged at 12.9% which although isn’t cheap, is still lower than the big four’s standard overdraft rates.

•         One of the best features of the 1st Account in my opinion is the ability to make CHAPS (same day transfers within the UK) and international money transfers over the phone. If you’re somebody who uses these services regularly, you probably know how annoying it can be to have to constantly go into a branch and stand in an endless queue. With First Direct, the whole transaction can be done over the phone, making it much more convenient.

•         First Direct also provides a handy sweep facility, allowing you to automatically move any extra money from your non-interest paying current account to an account which rewards you better.

•         They also allow you to offset your mortgage against any savings you have, which could potentially shave hundreds off your monthly payments.

Finally, if you are thinking of switching, although I feel First Direct’s non-interest bearing current account has benefits which outweigh the loss of interest, other products such as its savings accounts are not so competitive.

For example, while First Direct’s Everyday eSaver account pays a reasonable 4.75% AER, Derbyshire’s Websaver pays a much tastier 6.55%, although there is a 1% bonus attached for the first year and only four penalty-free withdrawals are allowed. 

If you’re looking for a more accessible account, Bradford and Bingley’s Internet Saver 3 pays a slightly lower 6.51%, but has no withdrawal penalties. So as always, remember to shop around.

So, while First Direct may be a good banking alternative, their products will not be for everyone. If you have predictable banking habits or simply want a bit of extra dosh, then perhaps a high-interest current account might be better for you.

And perhaps I'm wrong about First Direct's efficient service. Let me know by posting your comments below!

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litsl said

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I'm very happy with Smile. They pay interest on current accounts, have award winning customer service, an excellent online bank account and have a very strong ethical policy (they are part of the co-op).

apb1234 said

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I bank with first direct. They are not so good in my view.

They are not competitive at all. Savings rates are frankly rubbish. You really want the sweep facility to go from your savings to the current account so you can keep as low amount as possible in this but they don't offer it.This means you are in a monthly battle to avoid going overdrawn because you try to keep as little in the current account as you can because of the 0% interest

They don't offer great support for Mac os x. The call centre is an 0845 number and often keep you on hold. The website is difficult to navigate and is weirdly counterintuitive, and they persist with a gloomy black theme.

I have set up a Halifax current account and am considering moving

nihonfool said

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I bank with Halifax (joint account) and Barclays (personal account). Halifax gives a good all-round service and reasonable interest rates. The only reason I remain with Barclays is because of the dreadful experience I had when transferring the account to Halifax! I wonder if Fools are aware that Barclays re-issues account numbers (and associated Sort Codes) to other customers. As a result I had the experince of a significant sum of my money being sent to the new account holder (even though my name was correctly given in the BACS transfer). Barclays has done virtually nothing in helping me to retrieve my money, which after over a year I still haven't received. In the meantime the new account holder has spent it!

Barclays rates of interest in both savings and current accounts are derisory. They also refuse to allow me to set up a standing order from my mother's savings account to her current account - I hold a Power of Attorney for her. I am therefore forced to set up individual transfers every month to ensure that she doesn't have an unnecessarily large amount in her current account.

My only experience with First Direct was ten years ago when they sent my application form with all my personal details - salary, savings etc. to another would-be cutomer in Glasgow and that person's to details to me! Needless to say, we both decided not to proceed in spite of their excellent reputation.

reddonkey said

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I've been with first direct for 14 years and i can't really fault them - I've been tempted to open a smile account for ethical reasons but smile's overdraft facility's are not as good so for now at least I am going to stick with a bank that has given me very good service and that has many benefits

bobcain said

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I've been with First Direct for some ten years or more & I cannot fault their Customer Service or their on-line system. For day to day banking they are first class. Only the interest rates on their savings products let them down a bit.

Chinxyn said

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I've been with First Direct for several years and find it first rate for service.
Although I earn net just under £1k a month so they charge £10 a month service charge; I think this is worth it for the "free" overdraft (that I have never wanted to use yet), and the total lack of hassle I have had.

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I've been with Smile for more then five years and had no problems at all. The few times I have called customer services they had been very efficient. The online access is excellent easy to transfer money between accounts, setting up future payments and transfers etc. They pay a good rate of interest on their current and deposit accounts. I also have a good overdraft facility.
I can't fault them, there is no way I would change to an account that charges just to have an account and pays no interest.

sje111 said

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I have banked with Abbey since 2002 and have been very happy with their service except for the overseas callcentres - I get around this by using saynoto0870.co.uk to find an 0800 freephone number - this always seems to get me through to a UK callcentre and they (so far) have been as good as any other UK callcentre I have used.

It seems to me that the Fool has a downer on Abbey for some reason - I wonder if they advertise with Fool.co.uk or not?

celsiana said

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I have banked with Smile for a number of years and can't praise them highly enoug. Any emailed queries are answered immediately by a real person - and information and updates are sent quickly. Interest on my current account and on the use of my Visa and i get co-op points to spend too!

ScooMagoo said

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We've ditched Barclays because of their abysmal current interst rate; First Direct because of the £10 fee out of principal (we more than met their requirements); Abbey never even resonded to our online applications for one their ISA's; and A&L because their requirements were so convoluted! We've been happily settled with online banking at the Halifax for 7 years and offset with an IF mortgage... Halifax customer service is nothing to write home about mind you.

flatmonkey said

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I've been with Lloyds for 16 years and yes, they do have a ridiculous account charge of £17 a month on their platinum account but I make sure I use all the freebies they offer - free travel insurance (for two), free mobile phone insurance, free comprehensive AA cover.

I've often thought about changing because of their account charge but their customer service has always been very good, even when I had troubles with them. They returned all my fees a while ago with no quibbles, and they provide an easy to use internet banking system where I can shuffle money around to my heart's content.

And they pay good interest.

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I've been with First Direct for at least 15 years and would not consider moving my current account.
Why:
1. Simple and fast internet banking.
2. 'Plus' enables you to list ALL your internet accounts via one site & one password. Having only one portal to contend with when managing all accounts (including non-FD) is a huge bonus.
3. They promote being at the phones 24/7 and they really are.
4. The service is exemplary. FD are the ONLY call centre I've ever come across that get it right.
I was mugged a few years ago after a 'works night out' & had my bag and switch card taken. I called FD at 2am and they were able to transfer me across to a specialist team who efficiently & empathetically dealt with the card cancellation.
I feel that incidents such as this separate the wheat from the chaff - they really are that good.
My fear has always been, can they keep this service as they grow? But so far, so good. I'm happy to forego current account interest for service that's dependable.

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I am a Nationwide customer and have been for 17 years (Savings & Current A/C).
I generally find their customer service to be excellent and also bank online.
The interest rates are not fantastic but as others comment - i prefer good service over a minor improvement on interest !

ffluffy said

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I have been with Abbey for over 15 years and they had been great - til someone defrauded my card. I have never experienced such bad customer service in my life. None of their departments talk to each other, you can never get through on the phone unless you hold for ages, then they send you to other departments which you cannot get through to either. I ended up complaining (funny I never got an answer there either even though sent by recorded delivery!!) & ended up going to the Ombudsman. Only then did they get their act together but it has cost me big time to get it sorted. I am still with them and will be changing very soon. Rates are not everything if it costs you more when things go wrong. We need support from our banks when WE need it NOT when they feel like giving it which was the fault of Barclays when I changed over 25 years ago. Now I would never bank with Barclays, Lloyds TSB or Abbey - do they actually know it is OUR money they are using??

tdg948 said

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I hve banked with most of the BIG banks over many years,Barclays,Nat West,Co-op,and Lloyds,some of the so called ethical banks must have spent a long time at the Gordon Brown robbery school.I have banked with Investec and Cahoot for ten years and I can move MY money about 24/7 as I wish,never one to praise banks,as they make from their customers,but if they continue to give very good service I will stay with them.

AntiScam said

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I have had the misfortune to deal with both First Direct and Abbey within the past six months and both have been dismal experiences. First Direct were just hopeless from day one. Their call centre staff, whilst UK based and cheerful, had very little knowledge of their products and procedures. Promised return calls from more senior staff never happened. The look and feel of their online banking service is abysmal and the functionality confusing in the extreme. I closed my account within weeks without bothering to meet their rules for the £100 joining/leaving bribes. I purchased an Abbey Cash ISA in April of this year. It took endless emails and phone calls to sort out and it then turned out that the original advertisements had been badly worded so that the product appeared to be a fixed rate when in fact it is a variable rate. I am not the only one to have complained about this and Abbey changed the wording soon after. They promise to give a response to complaints within four weeks, but despite receiving letters and emails saying that they are looking into the points I have raised regarding their poor lack of service and misdescribed product, I am still waiting for a proper reply three months later. I have banked with Intelligent Finance (part of Halifax) for many years and have had nothing but good experiences. UK call centres, straightforward online banking with 'jars' to segregate savings under different headings that you name yourself, online BACS/CHAPS facilities and of course, mortgage offsetting. I really don't know why I considered leaving them and I am now glad that I never signed the forms to transfer my account to First Direct. The only downside is that their savings interest rates aren't the best in the world so I use Sainsbury's Internet Saver for instance access savings and various bonds for longer term savings outside my annual ISA limits. I have just taken out a one year fixed rate bond with Birmingham Midshires and the opening process for this has been a model of efficiency. My advice? Give both First Direct and Abbey a very wide berth!

oozat said

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I'd like to add another recommendation for Smile. Account transfer went without a hitch, reasonable interest on current accounts, efficient on line transactions, prompt responses to email enquiries and, yes, a real person at the end of the 'phone at 2.00 a.m.when I had an urgent enquiry.

imbroglio2 said

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I have banked with First Direct for approx 12 years. I use the On-line banking facility and cannot fault it. The "Plus" facility is excellent allowing accounts held with different organisations including email & loyalty card accounts,amongst other things, to be accessed,with only one sign in needed. The customer service reps are always willing to provide an excellent service.
I accept the interest rates could be better but I can only look back on 12 years of brilliant service & error free banking..why would I want to go anywhere else??

I use Sainsburys and Alliance Leicester for High Interest accounts..no problems so far.

I would not touch Halifax with a barge pole due to the shocking treatment I received when winding up my late father's estate.

First Direct Rocks!

lynnm21 said

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I love my smile account too!

pnt999 said

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I have been banking with First Direct for about 15 years; there are pluses and minuses but overall it works.

Pluses: you can always get hold of someone on the phone; their staff on average know what they are doing; the internet service is good; no rip off gimmicks; they innovate (having created telephone banking, they were quick with internet banking).

Minuses: it is not like a traditional bank of old where someone knew you and would take a personal decision on your needs (but where is ?). When I wanted a mortgage, they wouldn't take account of my bonuses in determining affordability (Barclays did), when I wanted a large overdraft to help my cashflow they couldn't (Citibank did).

On conclusion, what they offer they do well. For basic banking, they are very good indeed. But as I have got older and have asked for more difficult things for them to say yes to, the "system says no". With a Citibank account abroad with a personal banker, he has got Citibank to say yes, even when they didn't want to.

A final gripe at all UK banks - why can't I set a limit for the balance I want in my current account? Then the excess balance can be sent to my savings account, daily. Ditto if I have spent money from the current account, the amount necessary to take my current account back to the agreed level is taken from deposit. FD offer this but only do the clearing once a month. Citibank in Europe does the clearing every day in Euro's, GBP, USD etc, but it's in Europe. I would be happy to pay a service charge for a UK account with a decent savings rate and overnight clearing between deposit and current - come on FD - maybe your next innovation ?

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I'm another happy smile customer - I've been with them 8 years.

For the person who gets charged £10 per month by First Direct, the smilemore account charges £10 per month, but you also get a free £260 overdraft and the interest rate is lower for over that; also travel insurance and breakdown cover thrown in; and dividends if you become a member of the Co-op.

They are very hot on unexpected high purchases on credit cards (which can be a bit annoying, but better to have vigilance); and customer service both by email and phone has been great.

t2sdixon said

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I've left First Direct and set up a new account with Nationwide. I was not too unhappy with First Direct but I really didn't like their on-line banking site and was not that impressed by their call centre either. And following their anouncement in Feb ( to charge £10 if you don't pay in £1,500 a month into their accounts, or fail to maintain an average balance of at least £1,500) I decided to move. I was not impacted by their anouncement but I didn't find it very customer friendly. It is good to have all services on-line but in case of major issue, I find that being able to meet adviser in a local branch can save lots of time and hassle. Also I am traveling regularly to France and the terms and conditions offered by Nationwide Credit cards allow me to save quite a lot of money on commissions.

triess said

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I opened an account with First Direct in the first couple of months of trading and, though thinking of going for better rates, am still with them. Always quick and efficient on the 'phone and exceedingly helpful when I had a direct debit (DD) problem - sorted it with the other organisation and rang me a few times to keep me up-to-date. I've not paid the £10 fee, even though my savings account had £0 balance for the first 6 months! As I pay most things by DD, I load an everyday e-savings account and set up dated transfers back to cover - easy with internet banking. Being a Fool, I also keep back-up savings in high interest elsewhere -the best of both worlds. One problem they didn't solve was a minor internet banking and Fifefox 2 incompatibility (cured by not using HTTP pipelining in FF), but they did call back for more information and that was resolved with a change to FF3.

rsr100 said

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Have been with First Direct since they started and I am very happy. The fact that you can the phone or internet at any time of day, the fast and knowledgable response on the phone (provided you avoid obvious peak times), the ability to carry out foreign transactions on the phone and the fact that they have never made a single mistake.
The Everday E-saver is handy to use for temporary surplus money as you can move it instantly whereas transfers to outside accounts take 3-4 days all the while losing interest. Of course, being a Fool I have other savings accounts with better rates for longer term savings. The e-saver also means we do not have to pay the monthly fee even though being pensioners the amount of money coming into the account is pretty well on the margin.

Hitman101 said

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This sounds more like an advert than a proper article - no offense.

I have banked at First Direct for years, not really had much choice given the fact that I have done a lot of travelling making it difficult to manage my finances, so the benefits of telephone and internet banking which FD uses exclusively and I have no complaints - they do it vcry well.

I would have to say though that for a Bank with no branches (most other banks offer call centre services) FD do not offer very competative rates. This is there achillies heal, and they will never earn customer loyalty if they cannot out perform all those banks with branches.

Right now I'm looking at splitting my finances into distinct areas and using other banks to manage them, for example I am looking to minimise the complexities of managing my numerous standing orders and direct debits which now is a nightmare. With most traditional Banks including FD and Building Societies, I have to transfer enough money into the current account to support all automatic payments each month (or I can do it for individual payments!) This money was at least earning a paltry 0.1% before, however having hundreds of pounds sitting in a current account is in-efficient and I am looking now at banks which can link savings and current accounts so I can have my money in a savings account and the bank will automatically pull out the required money to fulfill a payment. It's not great cause I want to group payments so I can gain greater control - somewhat like a business, by having payments coming out of separate current accounts for - for example - House, Insurance, Utility, Entertainment, Car/Transport Payments and so on. This gives me better budgetry controls and allows me to see where I am spending more money than I should be.

Most of the rest of my money (about 2/3's the rest kept for day to day living and property work), that which is not currently languishing in an ISA will be going into short/mid and long term savings with the best rates split roughly 20% short (1 Year), 20% (2 Years), 20% (3 Years), 40% (5 Years). Furthur where these investments are bonds, I will choose to split the money into many smaller bonds with the minimum investment rather than one or two larger investments, giving me the flexibility to dip into this money should the circumstance require, by reclaiming bonds one at a time, short term first without affecting the others.

A larger amount of my money is currently 99.5% offsetting and paying my mortgage which I will not be touching, and this will be my last reserve.

Bottom line here - FD needs to do a lot better - Banks need to realise that customers will be loyal to those who pay them the best return on their money and best services. Other customers will come to them and invest their money if they offer the best return on their money and services. Therefor, FD needs to substantially raise it's interest rates on all savings accounts, providing rates that eclipse the best on the market, and for the most part these rates need to be provided without the constraints most banks choose to employee like sacrificing a months interest for a single withdrawal. Granted most people will need to withdraw some of their money from time to time, but most people will be clamouring to invest.

What good is a bank with super service and few if any customers?

Bigalfonso said

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Hi,
Just to ad s little balance to the Fool comparison, I bank with Alliance & Leicester and with their premier direct account you get free annual European multi trip travel insurance which covers both joint account holders, you can also carry out CHAPS and International money transfers on the phone,plus the account pays an exceptional interest rate with a small income requirement each month. Oh and UK call centres, so this ticks all the boxes for us.

iiyama said

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Yet another happy Smile customer been with them from the beginning with interest paying current account, cashback credit card and no problems.

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I am glad to see a number of people criticising First Direct. Before today, all I ever read on Fool, and similar websites, is how wonderful they are.

I had a current account with them for about 12 months until January 2006. In that time, I found their staff to be very rude and downright incompetent.

On one occasion, they demanded to know why I had rung them to find out my balance, etc when I could have done so by logging on to my account. I told them I was 200 miles from home and was looking after my mum, who was ill. They said they wanted proof that I was not on a mobile, so they asked for my mum's home number. I refused (quite rightly, I think), stating that I was unwilling to give out her number. After a while, I asked them how long it would take for me to move banks.

"NOT AS LONG AS IT WOULD TAKE FOR YOU TO GIVE ME YOUR MUM'S PHONE NUMBER," came the reply.

I would strongly advise anyone thinking of changing banks to give First Direct a very wide berth.

JJCUK said

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yep Another happy smile customer, as usual its the ones with no problems you rarely hear about. I have tried quite a few online banks but smile is the one I have always kept
no brash or intrusive adverts on their banking pages simple and streamlined excellent customer service

cazbuh said

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I have been with Lloyds TSB for 12 years. As a student and a graduate their customer service has frequently been excellent. They allowed me to move backwards and forwards between the student and graduate account as I studied at three different universities. This meant that I always had an interest free overdraft available. They chased down a copy of a cheque for me when I had a dispute with a retailer, this saved me £50. They were very understanding about my frequently perilous financial situation when I was a student and cancelled all charges against my account. I am now employed and recently paid off my overdraft. This made me wonder if I would be better off with a bank who offered interest on their current account. I was just starting to shop around when they unveiled their 6% plus account with no monthly charge so I jumped at the opportunity to stay with them. I also have an airmiles credit card through them which comes as a pair of cards: Amex and Mastercard. It is a winning combination as I shop at many of the partner stores already and I have accumulated enough for a free return flight in just 6-8 months without changing my spending habits. Their online interface is very simple and has loads of options. I would be hard pushed to criticise them; their products are rarely the most competitive but they have all served a purpose for me and without such an understanding bank I would have had some serious difficulties at university.

Tom067 said

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I have banked with Lloyds and previously with TSB for almost 50 years. I have also had accounts with Barclays and Halifax but the service I received was poor so I'm sticking with Lloyds as they have always been fair and quick when dealing with my money and queries. The interest element doesn't really come into the equation. However if there is a move to charge a monthly fee I may have to reconsider my options.
My only regret is that I am no longer able to contact my branch direct and as I now reside outside the UK, it is not always easy to get through to their call centre!

Pantang said

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How much Chan were you paid to right this? Not by Fool but by First Direct!

Reasons why I hate First Direct;

1. I opened the account on a promise of £100. But they claim I never entered the promotion correctly. They did give me £25 good will gesture but it cost me more than that in interest moving my money across.

2. Constant calls whenever I use my card, and cutting my card off. I like security but first direct takes it to a whole new level. They're also stupid with it, they call you and ask for your personal details - if you dont give them your card get blocked, so i always end up having to call them back! I expect my bank to treat my money securely, but I also expect my money to be available. Anytime I was on holiday they would call whenever I used my card and sometime bar it! Id ring before hand to let them know I was going. And still they'd do it. In Bolivia (of all places for your card to NOT work) They barred me, not only that they called me 32 times on my mobile - which cost me everytime it rang - £32 all up! The annoying thing my phone answer message said - I am in Bolivia, do not call me. Email me instead. Not did them callin me cost me, it cost me over £140 pounds in a 3 month trip ringing them to unbar me.

3. I changed jobs and had some money coming in from a rather large refund of a purchase I made. Unfortunately the refuind when to my first direct credit card - which I had canceled. And therefore my acccount went over it limit at the same time my direct debits hit. £250 later.. And Im waiting for the verdict these fees are illegal...

I'd avoid First Direct like the plague! I'm not over the moon with Lloyds TSB but at least they are reasonable with refunding fees on occassion (as I rarely get them) and my card always works.

Pantang said

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PS: I would however recommend anyone taking up the £100 intro offer, the £100 exit if not satisfied offer with First Direct. IF the offer comes back. It'd really please me to know that they lost £200 from my post

d0nnyoz said

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Although I found that First Direct's service was always very good and their online banking is relatively good, I suppose I wasn't the best customer in terms of overdrafts, but I decided to get all of my charges back over 6 years, which I did (£1440) and then after a couple more months they withdrew all of my facilities.
I requested some leniency and I proposed a plan for getting my finances back on track but they simply wouldn't listen. Everything I proposed they simply refused and I think it was purely because I manage to extract so much money out of them in charges refunds.
I'm with A&L now and can't really fault them, and their rates are much better.

JeanMac333 said

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I have current accounts (individual and joint) with three different banks and use them depending on which one has the feature I want to use. I transfer money between them electronically.
Alliance and Leicester - I have had since the good old days of girobank and use this to get cash out because I can go to a local post office where I don't have to queue. I hate cash machines. I can also pay in cash and cheques at a post office. A&L are irritating because they are much nicer to new customers than they are to me.
I bank with Intelligent Finance because they let me put money into my account with a debit card - the only time I know that a bank credits my account before the other one is debited. They also let me have lots of little different pockets so I can have a separate pot for vets bills/holidays/whatever. They're irritating because I have to put cheques in the post
I bank with first direct because they do most things OK and I use them for a different income stream (and, by the way, my husband thinks they are wonderful and has his current account with them).
None of them are perfect, none of them give me the highest rate of interest I could get but I keep as little as possible in my current account and move it over to a savings account if I'm going to have any money for a day or two. It's just about horses for courses.

Nellasel said

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I was tempted into taking up Alliance & Leicester's eSaver ... and also plunged in for the Premier Direct Account. The whole process has had its ups and downs ... the changeover from my old bank has been fairly painless ... but the hassles I've had putting a few quid into the eSaver ... it's taken nearly two months since I first applied online ... and I have still not got the money in there. Lost a fair bit of interest ... financially and emotionally!!
Investing cash in the Icelandic banks was a doddle ... they seem genuinely keen to get their hands on it! British banks seem bogged down with red tape and paranoia over money laundering. It really surprised me to discover that getting credit cards to the value of £35k has been easy ... while trying to put the same amount into savings has been truly frustrating hard work.

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Smile is great. The interest rates are always reasonable, if not market leaders. The service is efficient. They also pay a dividend to Co-op members. They are an ethical company, too.

schickle said

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I'm a new fool, but an old one with FD - I joined when they opened (1989?).The idea was that a bank without branches could offer higher interest,but they've gone for Services instead.
I stayed 'cos of the phone unique phone contact and remain 'cos of the unique ability to download my monthly dealings to Excel, but though I have been aware of the deficiences - I also bank with Cahoot, who are great, and have dormant accounts with Smile and A&L - you lot have really opened my eyes to the other things.
The bad thing about Excel is that it isn't multi-dimensional, or we could log all the things good and bad and work out which, if any, is the real-deal bank!
Note: I work with clients on the phone, tho' not in banking, and the only troublesome ones (two in six years)had attitude rather than argument - not a good thing to ring up with.

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Like Soph I've banked with FD for years, since before the days of the Internet. Then, the telephone banking service made them very convenient. But I decided to close my account when they introduced the charge for less well off clients, feeling this was just not the kind of ethic I wanted from my bank. (It didn't affect me because I also have an FD credit card which I never use because it has no incentives attached, unlike most others.) I'm now using Nationwide for the same parts of my finances: I find their internet banking easy and safe and though their interest rate is rubbish they are at least vaguely moral!

KatyMM said

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I have had a current account with HSBC(Midland) for 25 years and have never had any difficulties. But there again, my banking needs are very straightforward. I find their on-line banking facility incredibly useful and simple to use but do find it annoying that they only pay 0.1% interest on my current account.

I think, from reading all the posts on here, it seems it makes no real difference which bank you deal with. Your opinion will be formed when you see how they deal with you when something goes wrong, or you need something outside their normal range. So, even after 25 years of adequate service from HSBC, I wouldn't say they are any good. Just okay. (And I have no plans to change having seen and heard some truly dreadful stories about the problems people have had - both on here and among my friends and colleagues).

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Never call First Direct's 0845 number!

Instead, use 0113 234 5678 (easy to remember -- 0113 then 2 to 8!).

Cliff (Fool freelancer)

LibranLady said

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I must admit, I have not read all the comments, but my first question is, what if you don't have £1500 to pay in ? My monthly wage is around £1000 but I would like to join First Direct. What happens now? I have been treated rather shabbily by Natwest, and so has my ex-

BLH1936 said

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I have been with First Direct for many many years and have nothing but praise. Not just the human voice and the efficiency and the info their phone operators always have at their finger tips, but also the way they give the customer the benefit of the doubt. On more than one occasion I have slipped up and gone seriously overdrawn for a day generating an automatic penalty but one phone call pointing out my normally healthy balance and savings account resulted an instantaneous cancellation of the charge.

I was tempted to A&L by their high interest rates but they made such a pigs ear of opening the account and transferring DD and inpayments, not to mention that the reality of their 'easy' transfer promise did not live up the marketing hype, I cancelled the whole process after a few days. I quickly worked out that even though the A&L % may look miles better than 1st Direct, the actual £ p.a. was only a small figure and worth giving up for the 1st Direct service. Abbey? Well I do have a very long standing account with Abbey as an executor for a will, but again the appalling customer service makes me wish I had never bothered. How can a bank change the type of account and the account holder without mentioning it, apologise profusely when it is discovered, then two years later do exactly the same thing? It could have caused me serious tax problems and all the cost and hassle that could entail. I can't wait to close this Abbey account as soon as my Executors responsibilities end.

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Been with first Direct for over 15 years. No problems, things just work. If you don't want to pay £10 a month open an e-savings account and put £1 in it - no more charges. they didn't want to open an account for me as an executor once which i regarded as rather unhelpful but apart from that they are excellent. Use the 0113 245678 number if you've a call pagage that includes geographic numbers - not a work around by a say no campaign but a FD initiative. Buying foregign currency is a doddle too! The extra interest on offer elsewhere doesn't tempt me into moving yet,but i'll not say never.

Grumpsimus said

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Another satisfied Smile customer, no problems, I have only had to contact them a few times and have had prompt and helpful responses to both email(they have own secure messaging system) and phone calls. The phone calls are dealt with in the UK and you don't have to struggle trying to understand someone those first language is obviously not english.

Bit worried about posting this, don't want too many people joining Smile and the service going downhill.

Previously banked with Natwest - very ordinary, then Bank of Scotland - excellent until they merged with Halifax, when it all went off. Their idea of internet banking was so bad that I never managed to log-on! It then took months to close the account and withdraw my money.

Icelolly said

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I have had ny current account with First Direct for the last 17 years and am very happy with their service. Their internet banking is excellent, hardly ever need to call their call centres and if I do they are based in the UK and always very helpful. Free text banking keeps me up to date with activity on my account. Also if there is need to visit a bank branch you can use any HSBC branch.

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Having read most of the comments I am now unsure of what I should be doing about my bank accounts. I have been with Lloyds for as long as I can remember, but in recent times after starting to get control of my finances have started to notice how much I had been getting ripped off by them (I had a pretty big loan that the interest i paid back was shocking) and also have done business banking with them for the last 6 years only realising that I can get free business banking from other banks. I sadly was always loyal but have just moved my main carrent account to Abbey. So far so good, but must admit reading all the horror stories i think sometimes you are just lucky with some banks and sometimes you aren't. My partner banks with FD and has never had a problem. Hopefully in a few weeks I can return saying that the move has been successful and can say some good words about Abbey.

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Banking with Abbey.
What a disaster, they are completely out of touch with account holders needs (at least in the UK)

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Delighted to see all the criticisms of First Direct from poeple who've opened acounts with them. It makes me pleased I was never able to open an account.
It sends me an on line invitation every couple of years offering me ther £100 incentive.
I've accepted its invitation several times, spent some time completing the application and then been rejected each time without an explanation other than "the computer says "NO!" meaning a credit reference agency says "No!". First Direct simply acepts the CR decision.
What irritates me is the waste of time applyhing when it could have had the same answer at the start of the application as the CR decision is independent of the information entered.
On each occasion (1) I was looking for another bank and on each occasion found one which did not have to ask a credit reference agency for permission like Firat Direct does (2) (my spouse and) I had a joint income of over £100,000 both with secure permanent jobs with local authorities or the NHS (3) we had no arrears. no missed payments, everything paid on time, no interest bearing credit cards not paid off in full each month, etc etc (4) we both had 0% credit cards with substantial balances invested in ISAs etc (5) I have four credit cards I use for purchases, each with a statement date 7 or 8 days after the other, so I use the one with the most recent statement (ie: Not profitable customers at all for the CC cos) and the mortgages on all our properties are less than a third of their value (^) obviously no CCJs or whatever.
First Direct does not want to know our savings are well in excess of our 0% CC debts. It justs wants to waste my time on a long application process before being told by the CRA to reject me.
What wasters. No wonder banks are in trouble lending to uncreditworthy people. I really hope First Direct goes down.

maskelyne said

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I've been with Smile since they started. They've lived up to every promise - free banking forever, fee-free credit card forever, cashback, UK call centre with English-speaking operators, real people answering every call (not that I have to call more than once a year because the account works so perfectly), consistently good rates on both current and saving accounts and no minimum pay-in. I'm afraid that charging for an account with no interest and a huge minimum pay-in means that FD have a marathon to run before they even get in the same race.

Caswest said

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I have banked with NatWest for over forty years and have never had any reason to complain about their service.
They have never lost any of my money, my DD's and SO's are paid promptly, they send me a cheque book before the old one runs out, likewise with my debit card.
I have always taken this service for granted as it is what I expect a bank to provide, but reading some of the other comments, it would seem that I have been very lucky.
I have only ever had a personal account with NatWest, but for over seven years I had business accounts with both The Bank of Scotland and The Clydesdale Bank and never had any reason to complain about either of their services. Is this tripple luck?

tipsy2 said

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High interest on current accounts may be simpler to manage but if it comes with bad customer service then it is surely better to have a current account with a bank that gives good service and move surplus funds into a savings account, either with the same bank or with a differenet provider. I echo the comments on Smile. They have given me excellent service for 8 years or more although I do not use them for my main bankers. My main bankers Abbey business are very impersonal and I have had a few problems but they offer free business banking for life which will save the average business about £500 a year. I also have a Nationwide account for foreign trips:being able to extract cash from a hole in the wall without charges and at a decent exchange rate gives a warm glow.

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Easy on the praise for Smile. Although banking with them from abroad is pretty easy and efficient. Their day to day customer service leaves alot to be desired. They took away my overdraft the moment I dared to use with no warning when I most needed it between jobs. This left me in the red, being systematically charged the earth. More recently I was charged for not having the credit in my account to pay a direct debit. Even though my pay was several days late going into my account. I paid the money into my account for the direct debit that day and my pay went in as well. Yet I was still charged and they refuse to be even vaguely understanding about it. Far from trying to understand they were quite rude and sent me a break down of everything that went in and out of my account that day. Which was arithmetically wrong. I'm not sure that I have confidence in a bank that clearly can't do simple addition and subtraction.

kwyken said

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I guess we all have individual perceptions of service, quality etc and I tend only to comment in the negative, but not in this case. I am an FD customer and have been for about 14 years now. I must agree that the service is first class and I am glad, having read this article, that I have not been tempted by the carrots offered by competitors. I have never been kept waiting for more than a few seconds when calling and I find the black and white theme of the website uncluttered and easy to use. If you want to avoid the 0845 charges then just use the international number printed on the ATM card - easy!

mickgjames said

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Been with First Direct for many years and still like them a lot. Taking out an offset mortgage with them changes the picture radically as the current account(s) effectively become interest bearing and tax-free at the mortgage interest rate. Anyone paying the £10 fee should either take another product or look at the First Directory service and get free travel insurance for the same money. Delivery of foreign currency to your home by courier is a great service (wish they did it for sterling), but beware--using it can trigger their somewhat oversensitive fraud detection system.

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I'm another very happy Smile account holder! I opened my account with the CWS Bank (later became the Co-operative Bank) in 1972, then switched to the Co-op's Smile brand when it became available. In 36 years of Co-operative Banking I've only experienced one error: someone else's cheque for £5 was debited from my account (sometime during the 80's)! Excellent customer service, and I like the very efficient Smile user interface.

msw3960 said

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I've banked with first direct, and prior to that the Midland, since they started up. I transferred from a Midland Vector account and tried hard to find a catch as they were saving me £20 per month. As with others I find it difficult to find fault with their service. I have also been tempted to open a Smile account for ethical reasons but when I look into the fine detail I find that Smile come up wanting compared to FD. Freinds who bank wth FD report similar satisfaction. With one exception over the past twenty odd years I have always found their staff to be couteous and polite, certainly when compared with such institutions such as Virgin Media or MBNA.

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I was a First Direct customer for many years, starting when they were just a phone bank. The call centre was always quick to answer (as long as you avoided peak business hours). We moved over to A&L last year, it suits us better. In the latter years, FD were getting a bit pushy, it seemed every time I spoke to someone, they tried to sell me something before signing off. Not looking forward to Santander's influence, maybe we'll be looking for a new account soon... I think it may be Smile next, they came second last time, but I worry that the garish pink will grate after a while!

nookiebear said

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Have applied to join FD on the basis of the £100 offer and being fed up with Nationwide's poor customer service (sending my loan info to a previous address I'd left a year ago, rejecting my request to close an account by mail, not explaining in the letter why the account can't be closed - I was overdrawn 30p, and finally, calling them and asking Customer Services who I should send the revised closure letter to - and being told 'I don't know'

So I applied to FD about the 28th June to get the £100 joining cash, had two phone calls end of June, have heard nothing since

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I've had no problems with First Direct's service, but I have got the feeling that they are trying to extract more and more money from me over the last couple of years: first they made text message banking a pay-for facility, then they started talking about charging a fee for banking if you didn't meet their strict terms, then they removed interest from the current account. I don't have faith that at some point in the future I won't finish up having to pay for the privilege of having an account with them. I do the majority of my banking on-line - I can't remember the last time I phoned them up - so I'm not exactly an expensive customer to support.

I also found that their account just wasn't working for me. I do most of my monthly spending on credit cards and pay off the full balance when it's due. I found that I was keeping a significant chunk of cash in the current account just to make sure the credit card payment would be made, but not getting any interest on it in the meantime. And you only have to miscalculate a little to find your account overdrawn and you're slapped with a hefty fine for being naughty.

I've now moved to the Coventry Building Society account and am getting in excess of £10 a month interest. I don't have to worry as much about shuffling money between current account and high interest savings accounts as their interest rate is pretty good. Their online banking service works just as well as First Direct's did for me. I'll be closing my First Direct account when I'm sure all the payments are coming from the right place.

peediekate said

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During a brief stint as a customer service advisor at Abbey, I was told that transferring money out of your current account, then straight back in, could not be distinguised from earning that amount each month. I don't know if this would be the same for other banks but it is definitely worth a try if it means avoiding a monthly charge.

M0ndo said

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I am currently working at a branch in Abbey, and must admit that customer service from the indian call centres are quite poor.

But i must say, this is a known issue, and customer service is Abbey's highest priority this year.

Please also bear in mind that Abbey has just installed a brand new computer system (largest IT operation in the UK this year) just put into place, so alot of the customer service issues arise from these teething problems.

laalaa41 said

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Isn't it shocking that there are so many tales of bad customer service from banks? It should be the exception. Most banks have such an appalling record, no wonder they're struggling to stay in business and that's the way it should be. In any business, if you treat your customers badly, they will migrate! I think they'd been far too complacent and now they're getting their come-uppance.

YulGok said

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I went overdrawn for day and got charged £25. Despite being a customer for 8 years and having savings accounts I was unable to convince them that it could be a better idea to keep an existing customer for a small consideration than to offer £100 to gain a new customer. Also, the travel insurance is not valid if you are over 65 without having to pay extra. It's a shame because I had really good service from them, but I think they are getting greedy and spending more money on advertising than looking after customers who are their best advertisers by word of mouth. I will be off to Nationwide, where I have kept a Flexaccount open and ticking over with no problems.
I'll have one more try with them and let you know if I have any success.

kint100 said

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I'm another smile customer who can't sing their praises high enough. I switched to them from RBS in 2000 and have never looked back. There are better rates available on individual accounts elsewhere, but in terms of the whole package (current account, savings, ISA credit cards, customer service, ethical policy) nobody else comes close. I rarely need to contact customer service, but when I do they sort things out straightaway.
Once when the link network went down temporarily (not smile's fault) and I needed cash to pay the barber, I withdrew on my smile credit card and smile credited the cash withdrawal fee back to my account. Would many other banks do that?

nandos999 said

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DONT BANK WITH ABBEY.
I've banked with abbey for the past 20 yrs and yesterday i needed to find out details on a unknown transaction. I spent 3 hrs talking to different departments .They passed me around and all sending me to the wrong department. I still have not had the details i require. I was promised a phone call yesterday from a manager. Fat chance that really happened ! I've written a complaint letter this morning which is going out first thing tomorrow morning. Abbey national bank customer service sucks ! i've never had such bad service in my life. UK fraud team cannot give me details of the transaction ..they tell me "that's the only information we have" . All i want to know is where is the money coming from . Give me the bank name and account name.

skundered said

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I currently work for Abbey and I know they aspire to be the best bank in the high street. From my point of view - until they realise that high interest rates(but rarely the best as they seem to believe) on savings and current accounts are NOT more important than customer service - including both the ability and WILLINGNESS to help they are doomed refilling a leaky bucket. In the mean time they just want to sell you all they can whether you want it or not!

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Been with FD since 94 and relatively happy with them although I wanted an offset mortgage with them and they have a strict rule that you can't have a mortgage beyond the age of 65 years (how ageist). Their loss as I went to Nationwide (my other bank)where there is no such restriction and am on target to pay off my mortage 10 years early.
p.s. it is part of the job for staff in First Direct to promote other products to customers as they are paid bonuses on this.

1Dee said

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I have had accounts with several big name banks over the years and at the moment am with NatWest who I have had no problems with at all. Even when I go into the branch the time it takes to get served and come out again is very quick in comparison to Barclays where I could spend most of a lunch time queuing. I have an ongoing problem with Nationwide at present. I had a basic account with them just to pay a few DDs and had my salary put into it each month to cover the cost of the DDs. There wasn't an overdraft available with this account but that suited me fine as I really didn't eant to go down that route. One day a DD went out a day earlier than it should have and this left me in an overdraft situation of about £5. I was charged £25 for this and when I spoke to somebody at Nationwide about this they said that was the statutory payment for non authorised DDs. When I pointed out that the DD only took 2 days to leave me account instead of the normal 3-4 days and it wasn't supposed to go out until a specified date they said that wasn't there problem. I opened up a NatWest account that day and contacted my firm to have my next salary paid into the new account. I have since spoken to different people at Nationwide about this situation which now leaves me owing them about £300 but no-one is interested. I have spoken to the company applying for the DD to find out which day they made the application and it was the same length of time as all other months. I have refused to pay this as nobody at the Nationwide wants to listen and try to come to some sort of agreement on how to sort this mess out. I can't get to the bottom of this to find out who is to blame, was it the company applying for the DD or was it Nationwide for letting the money go early.

I am happy to stay with NatWest as they have been helpful on the occasions I have had to ring them and on one occasion when I changed the date of a DD and it happened before I had sorted out my situation to cover this cost they refunded the fee because they listened and understood what had happened.

TONYin7K said

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Have been with A & L from its beginnings as the Post Office Girobank in the 1970s. I joined them because they were the first with free banking and they have been that way since. When the Premier account was introduced I switched to that and got paid interest on my current account. I have had very few problems over the years and when there has been a problem it has been sorted quickly and to my satisfaction. They also have the benefits of lots of local banks - the Post Offices although Government action is reducing the number now.
I am now concerned over the take over by Santanda as Abbey's record seems pretty dismal. I will wait to see what happens but if they do go downhill I shall have no compunction in moving to another bank.

nickalemap said

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Hi been with smile from the beginning cant praise them enough excellent customer service and divi worth many times the one off pound to join the co-op low interest on he credit card, high interest on the current account what more could you ask for

Nemo666 said

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I was a First Direct customer for 10 years. I had large loans (all paid off) and earnt good money and a large credit card limit. Then I went abroad to work and it all went wrong - I told the bank but they got it wrong. A small fraudulent transaction snowballed and they closed all my accounts (saying I had no income) and posted a default on my credit file - without contacting me (well they phoned my old mobile but I had given them my email and address which they ignored). Now I am back in the UK and I can't get any credit or even open a current account. I tried to appeal but they said 'time out' for disputing transactions.

Luckily I realised I had a flexaccount (for holidays) and reactivated that and Nationwide reissued a debit card so I could at least avoid using my overseas visa cards for my UK spending.

They even gave me a credit card - Nationwide offer far better rates and service - as well as free overseas withdrawals - and don't threaten there customers with closure of their accounts when they are overseas!

AmberVB said

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Alliance & Leicester have terrible customer service; really incompetent. I moved to them from Barclays (luckily didn't close my Barclays account) & A&L completely messed it up - all my monthly outgoings went out twice & I didn't realise till my card kept being rejected. I must have spoken for HOURS on the phone to almost everyone who works there trying to sort it out. They were very unhelpful.
Barclays were very helpful & tried to do what they could to sort it out. They let me keep my account (& O-draft) with them even though my salary was going into the new A&L account.

I hope that Santander buck up A&L's level of service!

harold9 said

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I have been with Lloyds TSB for many many years and have absolutely no complaints. Instantaneous transfer from current to interest bearing online savings account. All bills etc. paid automatically online and no charges. Cannot see how it could be better. Once withdrew cash in an unfamiliar place and they contacted me to check that it was OK.

terri69 said

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Well lets hope all you Smile lovers out there have not been made redundant over the last few weeks as I am sure you will find their level of customer service will deteriorate rapidly to non existant.

I became seriously ill over a year ago and have not worked since 2nd Jan 2008. In that time I have managed to keep my account under the overdraft limit and pay my credit card up until the last month. My current account is still under the overdraft limit but have asked them to put a hold on the CC account. I have also offered them reduced payments if they will freeze the interest for the moment. In addition to that I have asked if they could only contact me by email or post as being ill I can't cope with the phone calls. Today, a Sunday, they have been phoning since 10.01am, in the week it is from 8.01am. They ignore all my emails and have not sent me a replacement card for my current account which is being run under its terms and conditions. This is actually unfair practise and they are not allowed to do it but they don't seem to care - Smile? I dont think so...very ethical....

flatmonkey said

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I've been with Lloyds for 17 years, through student accounts, redundancy and decent wages and they have been good.

There have been a couple of mistakes, but they did refund all my bank charges quickly when I claimed them.

I do pay a good £20 a month for the honour of their account but for that I use their travel insurance mobile phone insurance and full AA breakdown cover so I think it's worth it. There's also a free £250 OD allowance but I haven't used that.

Internet banking is also really clear and straighforward with them.

They haven't given me a good reason to change so far, and no one else has anything that's too good to refuse.

Celia Lyon said

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I have been with First Direct for over 15 years and are delighted with their customer service.  They are always very responsive and deal with issues efficiently.  My most recent experience was related to my visa card.  Both my husband and I had FD visa cards, and I only noticed by chance that we were paying different interest rates on them.  I rang to query why this was and discovered that as I had my visa card from pretty much the start of dealing with them, I was on an old rate.  My husband had a newer, better rate.  This seemed unfair and I asked to change it.  Primarily as I had just put a large item on the card.  They agreed to move my card to the newer card/rate, but I would have to pay the balance transfer fee.  I objected due to the length of time I had been with FD and insisted they waive this. I was particularly annoyed that they often try to cross sell other financial services, but had never offered to do so with my visa account. I had to await a call back from the supervisor, but when she did call back she had checked my account and agreed to change my account as I had requested.  The reason I had not been offered the better rate before is that I regularly paid off my bill so did not use the interest rate.  If I had done so, then they tell me they would have done.  Anyway, I got what I wanted, the better rate, and I felt that I was dealt with very efficiently.  It is not the fact that banks create problems, it is how they deal with them that sets them apart.  I find First Direct very good at dealing with problems.  I would, and do, recommend them to anyone.

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