is this total expence ratio correct?

compound200
by compound200 17 January 2010  |  Comments 7 comments  |  Love Love  0 loves

investment trust i.s.a

regular saving

£500 a month=£6000 year

costs

dealing

£1.50 a month=£18 year

.50% stamp duty

£2.50 a month =£30 year

admin

0.05% per month (min £2.16; max £8.33 per month) + vat?

does 0.05 per month mean 0.05% for yearly total

£6000

£3 a month=£36

total yearly costs

£84

total expence ratio= 1.4%

its a global smaller companies trust i plan to do over 15 years.

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  • MikeGG1
    Love rating 804
    MikeGG1 posted

    I am afraid your admin is too low. It is based on the accumulated value from month to month. Assume £2.16 for 8 months, sliding scale for the next 25 months and £8.33 thereafter. Total =£1,373

    Dealing costs are £18 per year = £270

    SDRT would be £30 per year = £450

    VAT on all but SDRT = £329

    I have assumed VAT at 20% because I think it must go up soon.

    Grand total =£2,422

    TER = 2.7%

    That ignores the price spread. If that is 5% then TER = 7.7%.

    Mike

    Posted on 17 January 2010 | Love Love  2 loves Report
  • manzanilla
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    manzanilla posted

    You would do better to move to a broker that has higher dealing costs and lower admin charges. You can then minimise the dealing costs by only buying every other month or even once a quarter.

    Or have a look at iii. They used to have a version of cheap monthly purchases within an ISA with no admin charges IIRC

    manzanilla

    Posted on 17 January 2010 | Love Love  2 loves Report
  • compound200
    Love rating 7
    compound200 posted

    manz---you said you saved up then bought shares

    were they all in an stock/shares isa

    did you hold for longterm or use stop/losses

    thx

    Posted on 18 January 2010 | Love Love  0 loves Report
  • MikeGG1
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    MikeGG1 posted

    Consider doing a 12 month monthly saver with Principality for 4.5% and then invest the proceeds annually. Their maximum is £500 per month.

    Other high rates are Norwich & Peterborough 5% if you have dependent kids, Stroud & Swindon 4.5% max £250 and Chorley 5% max £150.

    Mike

    Posted on 18 January 2010 | Love Love  1 love Report
  • compound200
    Love rating 7
    compound200 posted

    mike

    do you buy shares for longterm and divercify

    thx

    Posted on 18 January 2010 | Love Love  0 loves Report
  • manzanilla
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    manzanilla posted

    were they all in an stock/shares isa

    did you hold for longterm or use stop/losses

    I use my full ISA allowance each year. I also have shares through a SIPP (that was from the day before I realised that SIPPs were not a great idea!). And I have holdings outside ISAs too.

    I am a long term holder for most postions. A large amount of my holdings are ITs/ETFs - those I rarely touch, except to use up my CGT allowance each year. But I have a small part of the portfolio which I actively trade.

    I have never (and will never) use broker stop/losses as you tend to get stopped out when you least want it, but I do take losses when I think there is no good reason to continue holding a share.

    manzanilla

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  • compound200
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    compound200 posted

    thx

    Posted on 18 January 2010 | Love Love  0 loves Report

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