M&S, Debenhams and BHS: why buying luggage on the high street can land you with a £50 penalty

Sue Hayward
by Lovemoney Staff Sue Hayward on 05 June 2012  |  Comments 24 comments

Stores like M&S, Debenhams and BHS advertise push some of their suitcases as 'cabin' luggage. But they may be bigger than your airline will allow!

M&S, Debenhams and BHS: why buying luggage on the high street can land you with a £50 penalty

Thinking of cutting your travel costs and ditching that suitcase for carry on luggage this summer?  Check airline small print before you go shopping as some ‘cabin’ luggage sold by stores including M&S, Debenhams and Bhs could land you with a £50 fine at the boarding gate.

Only last week in Marks and Spencer (M&S) I spotted a ‘size gauge' machine in its travel section. Just like those wire baskets easyJet and Ryanair use to check your cabin bag size, the sign above it claimed, ‘if it fits within the gauge it's hand luggage’.

The size dimensions were clearly labelled as 56 x 45 x 25, which is ok for airlines like easyJet, but exceeds the measurements for cabin luggage with airlines including Ryanair, Thomson and Flybe by around 30%.

Now fair play, M&S staff aren’t travel experts, so when I brought this up with a member of staff she admitted being unsure if the size limit applied across all airlines. Her cheery advice was, "You'll probably get away with it'’, but having travelled on several budget airlines myself I’d say getting away with anything is very unlikely if not pretty impossible. 

Ryanair charges a whopping £50 if your cabin luggage is too big (55 x 40 x 20 cm max) or too heavy by the time you reach the boarding gate and with Flybe it’s £40.

When I contacted M&S’s head office about this, they apologized, claiming the size machine was "very old and out of date" and would be removed. But even without its misleading size machine, it still sells what it calls ‘cabin’ luggage which would be refused by some airlines.

So how do high-street ‘cabin’ bags stack up?

Take M&S’s Artemis small cabin rollercase which sells for £59. Its vital statistics are 55 x 35 x 20 and while this would make it on board budget airlines including easyJet and Ryanair, you risk being refused by Flybe whose limit is 50 x 35 x 23 or face a £40 fine to pop it in the hold. 

Debenhams also sells a range of 'cabin’ cases, but not all these are guaranteed to get past the boarding gate.

Take the Tripp Black Holiday Cabin Suitcase or the Tripp Raspberry Holiday 4 Wheel Cabin Suitcase. Both measure 55 x 36 x 22cm which is just over the dimensions allowed by airlines including Thomson, Ryanair and Flybe.  And Tripp does admit it has had to pay out refunds to some customers who’ve returned the ‘cabin’ cases as they’re too big for their airlines. 

Yet Tripp claims to use the ‘cabin’ branding as it says its cases fit most airline requirements.

It’s a similar story with BHS which has sells a cabin trolley bag which also exceeds the requirements for these airlines.  

When is ‘cabin’ luggage truly cabin-sized?

While the majority of luggage advertised as ‘cabin’ luggage from high-street outlets like M&S and Debenhams would be fine for flights with scheduled airlines like British Airways and Emirates, as well as some budget operators like easyJet, that doesn't mean it is a ‘one size fits all’, multi-purpose bit of kit.

You might think you can get away with a few centimetres, (and if you’re lucky and aren’t asked to pop your bag in the airline size gauge machine, maybe you will), but most budget airline small print does state that any baggage measurements given are the absolute maximum and must include both wheels and handles. 

In some cases you may find small print on the product label advising you to check airline requirements, or as with Debenhams if you hunt around on the website you may this hidden away in a separate ‘customer service’ section  rather than alongside products.

John Lewis however does go big on this and has a banner across the luggage page on its website advising customers to check the weight and size’ restrictions with your airline before you travel’. 

So who’s liable if your airline fines you?

What happens if you believe that what you're buying is ‘cabin’ luggage but later find it’s too big to take on the plane? You could have a case for ‘breach of contract’ says consumer solicitor Dawn Woodhouse from Irwin Mitchell.

This should mean a refund from the store if you realise before you fly. And if your oversized ‘cabin’ luggage means you’re forced to pay a fine, you may also have a case against the store for ‘consequential loss’ and a case to claim back both a refund on the case plus the cost of the fine.

To avoid any unnecessary hassle, I’d suggest ignoring any promises made by the stores and instead check with your airline first.  And if you’re buying in person, take a tape measure to double check those measurements.

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Comments (24)

  • amips
    Love rating 20
    amips said

    Oh for goodness sake! Just don't use those horrible airlines - simple.

    See the link "Ryanair vs BA - why budget airlines cost more than standard airlines!

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  • PDB11
    Love rating 72
    PDB11 said

    Most luggage I've seen advertised as cabin luggage has a small print disclaimer "Within the maximum size for cabin luggage on x% of airlines" or some such.

    With airlines increasingly restricting number of bags as well as total weight, more and more passengers are taking maximum or close to maximum sized cabin baggage. The result is that I am increasingly asked to hand in my bag at the gate (or the steps) and have it stowed in the hold anyway.

    This one is nasty - they do a quick check to see how much baggage they need to transfer, and walk back down the queue handing out labels. So if you're near the front of the queue, you have to hand over your luggage and make sure you have the stuff you need separately, whereas if you're at the back you get away with it. Sometimes they don't even bother to check. On one trip I had to hand over baggage on the way out, when the plane was almost empty, but not on the way home, when it was packed. Silly - and it damaged my camera (although I couldn't prove this, so I didn't claim).

    My technique now is: things I actually need on the flight - a book or two, my MP3 player and headphones, maybe a bar of chocolate - I stow in a small bag, inside my case. Once I've been through all the baggage checks, that comes out of my case and my coat goes in. It saves a lot of hassle getting into my seat, and it doesn't matter if they take my bag off me for the duration.

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  • Justkeepgoing
    Love rating 28
    Justkeepgoing said

    It may be better to use a squashy sports bag or holdall rather than a more rigid case for hand luggage it will be cheaper and lighter. If you use a luggage jacket with big pockets you can wear anything that you can not squash into your bag and stagger onto the plane with both.

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  • electricblue
    Love rating 643
    electricblue said

    I could give too many budget travel tips to list here, but the most important is : Never fly with Ryanair !

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  • killick_becki
    Love rating 58
    killick_becki said

    I can't believe that lovemoney is advocating complaining to the company that sold you the baggage. It is YOUR duty to check that your cabin baggage fits the requirements of the company you are flying with, not the stores. If you specifically ask "does this case satisfy cabin allowances for XXX" and they say Yes when it doesn't, fair enough. But as long as the "cabin bags" they are selling satisfy atleast 1 airline, they are justified in calling it cabin baggage.

    This is yet another way that we are pandering to the people who can't use common sense. Soon shoe sellers will have to teach people how to tie their shoes before allowing them to buy shoes with laces!

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  • CuNNaXXa
    Love rating 362
    CuNNaXXa said

    Fine?

    I am sorry, but a fine is a financial penalty imposed by an authority, usually in relation to some criminal activity. For example, you may get fined for parking where you shouldn't (double yellow lines), or for driving faster than permitted (40mph in a 30mph zone), or for loutish behaviour.

    Some fines are automatic, such as parking or speeding offences, and some require a magistrate, such as loutish behaviour. Also, you can currently be fined for using a hosepipe because even though the water company has issued the ban, it is backed up by an act of parliament concerning water usage, so is issued by the government.

    I think this article is totally misleading. You DON'T get fined if your hand luggage is too big or too heavy. You just pay an excess or surcharge, or they refuse to accept your luggage on their flight.

    Has anyone here been prosecuted for NOT paying this 'fine'? I doubt it.

    Of course, the English language is open to interpretation, and the archaic form of 'fine' means 'a penalty of any kind', while the modern version means 'a sum of money imposed as a penalty for an offense or dereliction'. Then again, do you have to legally pay these 'fines' issued by the airline? What if you leave your hand luggage behind, are you still charged a fine?

    So, a penalty is applicable regardless, whereas you probably have a choice to pay the airline 'fine' or leave the luggage behind, meaning it isn't a fine after all.

    It is a shame that a knowledgeable article has been marred simply because of using an inappropriate word in the title and content. The authors of these articles need to realise that their readers are a challenging bunch who will find fault with any misnomer used.

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  • Dampflok
    Love rating 22
    Dampflok said

    @killick_becki it's all very well saying that it is the customer's responsibility. I hate flying so very rarely do (maybe once every 4-5 years). However, I saw a weelie case in Tesco several years back that was being sold as "cabin luggage" and though I would get it (it would also be good on trains). The last thing I would have thought was that it could be too big for some airlines. Why should I? I was not out to buy luggage I was on one of my very rare visits to the nearest shopping centre (100 miles from home) and it was a spur of the moment buy. Fortunately it was just small enough (at a push) to work on Flybe when I was forced to fly with them. However, I will know next time and buy a tape measure first.

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  • Steviebaby1959
    Love rating 28
    Steviebaby1959 said

    @ CuNNaXXa

    I agree with your sentiments, but, -

    Has anyone here been prosecuted for NOT paying this 'fine'? I doubt it.

    You don't get prosecuted, you either pay up at the departure gate, or, you don't take your excess baggage on the plane, or, you don't get to fly, quite simple, these thieves have you by the short & curlies..

    And I find the article a little misleading, as we buy these products to last us for several years, not just one flight, so, why are M&S, Debbos, etc, not being challenged under the Sale of Goods Act, Trades Descriptions Act, etc, they know that Airlines change their policies as often as I change my socks, so, even with a miniscule small print informing customers that the Companies will wash their hands if anything untoward happens, surely, this is against the law???

    Alternatively, why doesn't the CAA, or, someone similar, tell these Airlines to have a uniform size for everyone, these cheapo airlines fly virtually the same type of aeroplanes with the same size luggage holders, I've never seen Squeezyjet flying a Boeing 747-400 Jumbo jet and never will do, so, these airlines cannot possibly argue that they all fly different models, let's have some consistency, please.....

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  • albbu
    Love rating 15
    albbu said

    How utterly stupid that the various airlines set the limits of "on board luggage"

    Most airlines use the same aircraft ie. Airbus or Boeing so surely these sizes

    should be set by the CAA, which i am sure would stipulate overhead locker dimensions to the manufacturers and would be part of the airworthiness certification.

    Please airlines/ CAA get together and set a standard limit instead of this hotchpotch of revenue earning traps set to entrap the traveling public.

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  • CuNNaXXa
    Love rating 362
    CuNNaXXa said

    @ Steviebaby1959...

    Exactly my sentiment. It is a surcharge or an excess, not a FINE.

    I have no quarrel with the rest of the article, which makes excellent sense from the perspective of purchasing something which quite clearly contravenes the SOGA (not fit for the purpose described), but I do take umbrage at the description of the surcharge or excess being described as a FINE.

    It is another attempt at catching the eye using inappropriate wording. A FINE is compulsory payment (or a custodial sentence for those who don't pay the FINE), whereas the surcharge or excess is an imposed penalty we pay if we want to carry on.

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  • Meduza78
    Love rating 17
    Meduza78 said

    for those suggesting not to use budget airlines but to use BA, for example: can you give me an advice how will i persuade BA to fly to the destination where those cheap ones do, but BA does not? will they extend their list of destinations after that?

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  • Meduza78
    Love rating 17
    Meduza78 said

    regarding to the Fine or Surcharge: if they ask you to pay those extra £50, will you have an option to avoid it and not to fly with subsequent refund of the fly ticket? i guess not. you will have a loss in both cases, whether you will board after paying extra or not board without paying £50. this may not meet the strict definition of FINE, but it definitely is fining you for extra size of the hand luggage. and you want to get to your destination so after all you will pay it and get on board.

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  • electricblue
    Love rating 643
    electricblue said

    I didn't comment on the use of the word 'FINE' as in the grand scheme of recent editorial standards on Lovemoney, that was just a minor distortion of facts, but on the point of being misled by the stores selling the luggage, the sentiment that the stores have to keep abreast of every rule of every airline is pathetic. When will people realise that they need to take some responsibility for their travel arrangements and read through terms and conditions? So many people want to just breeze their way through life and take no responsibility. Irwin Mitchell seriously need to get real in their apparent assumption that purchasers of luggage would not be expected to measure it and check that it met their particular airline requirements. The situation would be no different to buying a pair of shoes for your holiday and not trying them on before packing, only to discover that they were wrongly marked and you had to buy an expensive new pair while away. Consequential liability does not extend to the purchaser being unreasonably incompetent. Worthwhile advice when buying luggage - NEVER buy luggage with four castor wheels unless one pair are angled so that the case can be pulled easily on two wheels. Much of the luggage sold is an absolute liability when you need to haul it around the airport or from the baggage claim belt.

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  • Tamara
    Love rating 20
    Tamara said

    I fly Ryanair at least twice a year and have done so since they started (actually, used to fly out a lot more as they used to give out lots of free flights, just pay taxes back in the day).

    Recently went to Italy, two adults, two suitcases, priority boarding et all £167.11.

    No one else flies as close to my home town as Ryanair does and the cheapest flight to Venice would have been over £400 with BA.

    Also Stansted is cheaper when parking.....

    I have cases that fit the requirements and they always check them through the metal sizer, years ago there were so many people that were carrying very heavy and big hand luggages to take the mickey out of those who paid to have it checked in. I am glad Ryanair is very strict, read the T&Cs and stop blaming everyone else but yourself for your mistakes!!!!

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  • CuNNaXXa
    Love rating 362
    CuNNaXXa said

    As electricblue has stated, quite clearly, it is the responsibility of the purchaser to ensure that the product is exactly what they require.

    I think the real problem is that there is no standard size or weight to cabin luggage. Each airline uses different measurements, so while M&S luggage may be OK for one airline, it may breach the requirements for another airline.

    So what if M&S luggage doesn't fit the RyanAir requirements, it probably does fit the requirement that other airlines stick to, so they are not in breach of the SOGA. If their hand luggage was too big for ALL airlines, then you would have reason for being misled.

    Also, consider the simple fact that those directors behind such airlines as RyanAir are always looking at ways to bump up the cost, and if they can earn some extra wonga by changing the rules, they will do.

    So, imagine M&S actually make hand luggage that fits the RyanAir requirements, RyanAir would probably change the rules again, if they started losing revenue from not being able to charge.

    Remember that the very people who run companies like RyanAir are also the very people who are most likely to run as an MP, and who can conceive new ideas to tax us.

    Think of the RyanAir baggage 'fine' as simply more taxation.

    Amazing how something can start off so cheap, but by the time you have added all the extras, can end up costing a packet.

    Oh, and RyanAir isn't the only company using such sharp practices. Many make tempting offers, then increase the price by offering options that others include as standard. Car dealers are a big supporter of such measures.

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  • deanrobinson78
    Love rating 13
    deanrobinson78 said

    It only needs to meet one airlines regulations to be advertised as such....

    You should, and most people would check.

    Another badly written article. I'd be surprised if m&s don't sue you for this.

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  • The Bank Manager
    Love rating 72
    The Bank Manager said

    Caveat emptor...say no more!

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  • oldhenry
    Love rating 265
    oldhenry said

    If you fly with a proper airline the cabin luggage will be checked at the desk well before the gate. Also on the web site you will se the weight and dimensions allowed so check them. Always wear your heavy items too and stuff your pockets with heavy books etc to weigh the plane down and use more than your allotted fuel. I take my great heavy footwear off in the plane as it is umcomfortable. Wait until Ryan start weighing you and charge by the kilo per mile!!! You'll be bak to Virgin etc then as fast as your tickets let you.

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  • SiGl26
    Love rating 26
    SiGl26 said

    Stupid headline, meaningless article... Aimed at the people who still don't know they can't take their shampoo/conditioner/suntan lotion through security!

    Worrying that a solicitor should think you had any chance of winning at law over this one; someone claims a 'clear contravention of [the] Sale of Goods Act'...

    No, a clear contravention of common sense; it's extremely well publicised that Ryanair, flybe and the charter operators have a smaller cabin allowance than the IATA 'standard' observed by most. Ever tried to put anything worthwhile into a rolling bag (of any size) with a 5kg weight limit, anyway??

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  • janewright
    Love rating 0
    janewright said

    I recently shopped with Tripp Luggage, when I asked for advice on cabin luggage the first thing the sales assistant asked me was who I was travelling with and pointed out that all cabin allowances vary, as do the sizes of their cabin cases. As far as I can tell the staff at Tripp are highy knowlegable in their field and are not out to mislead customers in any way. I was in fact looking at the "holiday" range mentioned in the article and after discovering it would not fit for my airline I was helped to find a case suited to my needs.

    I also find the headline of this article ridiculous. How can you attempt to put blame on luggage retailers for airline rules and restrictions? This article is simply doling out unnecessary and unfair bad press.

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  • wadm
    Love rating 8
    wadm said

    A true but very misleading article. As far as I can see no two airlines have the same measurements for cabin baggage it is the airlines that need to get their acts together. Recently holidayed and flew on two different airlines with different regulations. In reality all you can do is buy a case of the smallest airline size which will fit all the others. There are some very lightweight cases available now which give a reasonable payload.

    Also be aware that some airlines reduce your cabin baggage allowance if you pay to put an additional case in the hold! In effect you pay for 20kg in the hold and they reduce your hand allowance from 10 to 5KG!

    How on earth are retailers supposed to cater for this situation which seems to me to be a trap set by airlines to generate extra revenue.

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  • MikeB55
    Love rating 6
    MikeB55 said

    Even if you buy the correct size this year. The airlines will shrink their size next year. Best to just use a carrier bag of plastic sack whose size can be quished to fit the frame.

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  • yocoxy
    Love rating 132
    yocoxy said

    I fly regullarly with Flybe (around 20 round trips per year) and find the service and pricing about the best there is. they are far ahead of Easyjet and I simply won't fly Ryanair any more.

    The one thing that bugs me is their 50cm bag length which is out of line with other airlines. I guess it's because they have a large fleet of Embraer aircraft, rarely seen with other airlines but the range of available bags is very small and most advertised as "cabin bags" are too long.

    I think it's a bit bold for a manufacturer to claim that any bag is "allowable cabin baggage" but of course it's my responsibility to check.

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  • riab1879
    Love rating 11
    riab1879 said

    It is the customers responsibility to check the maximum permitted dimensions on the hand luggage as well as the maximum permitted weight BUT the airline will rarely weigh the item. I last flew with Ryanair in February as they fly from East Midlands and that is my nearest airport. We thoroughly checked the hand luggage restrictions and bought a case that fit within the limit. It was a Tripp case and it didnt even have to go in the metal sizing box. I saw people in the queue ahead of us squishing bags in and then having to pull items out in order to get the bag back out of the box and they were not made to check it into the hold. I think with this one dont blame the companies advertising "cabin" sized luggage, blame the individuals for not checking what the airline they are using permits as cabin luggage.

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