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Campaign calls for plastic bag charge in England

John Fitzsimons
by Lovemoney Staff John Fitzsimons on 03 August 2012  |  Comments 51 comments

Four environmental groups have got together to demand the Government force retailers to charge for single-use carrier bags.

Plastic shopping bags. Chances are if you do some shopping, you’ll leave the shop with your goods in one. But a new campaign wants to ensure that, in future, we pay for the privilege.

Last year, eight billion ‘thin-gauge’ plastic bags were issued in the UK, an increase of more than 5% on 2010. That works out at 254 new bags being issued every second!

And that’s why four environmental organisations have joined forces to call for a levy on single-use bags in England.

The Campaign to Protect Rural England, Keep Britain Tidy, the Marine Conservation Society and Surfers against Sewage want the Government to require retailers to charge a small fee for plastic bags.

A spokesman told us: " Plastic bags are a massive waste of valuable resources that often result in litter, and can be lethal to wildlife on land and at sea. England is the only home nation not to have a single-use bag levy in place or to be actively seeking to implement one. A levy would help cut the amount of litter and waste on our streets, in our countryside and on our coastlines. The Break the Bag Habit campaign is calling for any proceeds from the bag levy to be used to fund environmental and recycling schemes."

Similar levies are already in place in Wales and Ireland. In Wales, where there’s a charge of 5p per bag, use has fallen by as much as 96%. When Ireland introduced its levy in 2002, plastic bag use dropped 90%. Some retailers, such as Marks& Spencer, already charge for plastic bag use. Would it make a difference if others followed suit?

According to the people I spoke to, it certainly would. One man told me that he and his colleagues know to take their own bags if they are ever shopping in Marks & Spencer, in order to avoid having to pay. A pensioner told me that she avoids shelling out money unless it's absolutely necessary, so a charge would encourage her to bring her own bags.

And one passionate lady told me that she never uses plastic bags as they are completely immoral, and instead carries a resuable bag at all times.

Back in 2011 the Government was clear that it wanted to see plastic bag use drop. But it hasn't done anything since then to actually ensure that happens.

It may be that charging us for the privilege of using plastic bags is the only way to achieve that goal.

To find out more about the campaign, visit Keep Britain Tidy.

Do you think this is a good idea? Let us know in the Comments box below.

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Comments (51)

  • flashyvc
    Love rating 11
    flashyvc said

    We are already paying for these bags already.they are part of the cost of our shopping.are you telling me that the supermarkets are donating them for free?i doubt it.

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  • mysticalmoooo
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    mysticalmoooo said

    About 15 years ago Sainsbury's and Tesco had special trolleys that held up to 5 plastic boxes that you bought. I still have my boxes but the trolleys went out of favour several years ago. Why don't they bring them back? Of course if they did, they would change the dimensions slightly so the old boxes no longer fit and the customer would have to purchase new ones!

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  • cleogen_blue2
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    cleogen_blue2 said

    Why We Shouldn't Pay for Plastic Bags

    This is the usual petty eco-storm in a teacup to deprive us of another convenience.

    The Facts - Disposable Plastic Bag Bags in Perspective:

    • Over 90% of households reuse plastic grocery bags. 65% use them in garbage disposal.

    • Most plastic bags are made using natural gas not oil (well over 80% in the USA, more here in the UK)

    • Much of the energy used in manufacture is embodied in the bag itself hence, when recycled this is recovered.

    • Independent sources show that plastic bags are more environmentally friendly than paper packaging in the energy and water used to manufacture, transport and recycle.

    • Lower usage of plastic bags will reduce the economic advantages of recycling them and hence the ability of others to recycle them. This one area of recycling where demand outstrips suppy!

    • When plastic bags go to the landfill, they account for less than 0.5% of waste by volume and, if used to wrap organic waste, can help retard the release of methane (a more significant GHG than CO2) by retarding the emissions from anaerobic decomposition of organic materials.

    • Energy usage: All plastic film production, in the UK (including clingfilm, bin liners, packaging film, industrial coverings, construction coverings, sandwich bags, agricultural packages etc) amounts to just 2% of energy consumed. Plastic grocery bags are one tiny portion of this 2%. If estimated as 5% of the 2%, their possible CO2 emissions would be measured in ten thousandths of 1% of world emissions.

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  • glynh
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    glynh said

    Over the last few years, I have increasingly found myself using the self-service basket tills at the supermarkets. These generally require you to put your shopping in one of the plastic bags provided, otherwise they do not recognise the item as having been processed properly. I always bring the bags back for recycling, but is there a way around the initial problem, I wonder?

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  • albatross5
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    albatross5 said

    I must ask glynh,...What problem? You mean the non-problem the eco-nuts construct to try to damage our lifestyles?

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  • JOHN MAXWELL
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    JOHN MAXWELL said

    the first thing to do is to explode the myth of plastic bags being free, whether or not there is a charge at the till the customer is paying for the bag. if there is a levy (tax?) on the bag then the customer is paying twice and the secondary charge will go to the government, for what? i have no problem with being charged directly for a plastic bag as i am then being offered choice, this already happens with Lidl among others. if there is to be any form of levy at what level does it become effective? if i spend £50 at my local supermarket will an additional 20p or 40p really discourage me from using ''one time'' bags? the real issue to be addressed is how to educate people in not creating litter whether it be empty drink cans, dog excrement or plastic bags. so many questions, so many answers, so few solutions.

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  • cyberdog109
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    cyberdog109 said

    Whether they charge for bags or not, I will still need them when I go shopping. I don't walk around with a pocket full of plastic bags and have no intention of doing so. This is another attempt to bully us into doing as we're told when the real problem is the morons who dump litter. I reuse my Tesco plastic carriers as rubbish bags, as they are biodegradeable.

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  • Icelady
    Love rating 7
    Icelady said

    What is your problem! When you go to a supermarket why don't you put your items, once scanned, on the side but not in a bag, you can then put them into a material/canvas bag which will last you years and not cause any problems to the environment. Comments regarding damage to your lifestyle because of eco nuts, really! When I was a kid in the 50's there was no such thing as plastic bags, they hadn't been invented, and everyone took a shopping bag with them. Now it's all about image and thinking the world is against you. Why waste money on bags when you could use it for something else. Some of us who still hold the values instilled in our childhood of 'make do and mend' will make shopping bags out of old curtains and clothes, unfortunately these days the skills are missing therefore convenience rules!

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  • itsmorecomplexthanyouthink
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    itsmorecomplexthanyouthink said

    What annoys me is the dishonesty of it all. The costs of plastic bags are already built into the margin the supermarkets make so we'll be paying twice for the bag and the profit goes straight onto the supermakets bottom line. Any supposed environmental issues they bring up are just a smoke screen to cover profiteering.

    If they want to charge us for bags, then let them be honest and actually sell us a product, rather than making out we, the customers, are the villains who need penalising. Sell a range of bags of differing materials and designs and without the supermarket's logo so we can make a choice and don't have to pay for the privilege of being walking advertisements for the supermarket.

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  • DaveK1020
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    DaveK1020 said

    You can guarantee that the supermarkets will be behind this for two reasons. They will not only be able to profit from charging for carriers and their sales on bin bags will rocket.

    I use all my carriers to line my kitchen bin but if they start charging I will have to buy bin bags instead. How is this going to reduce my usage of plastic bags? The answer is it isn't. It will just make it more costly.

    Charging for bags is the idiots solution as it does not stop the use of plastic bags. Surely the intelligent way out is to start using paper bags which pose no environmental threat just as the Americans do.

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  • cyberdog109
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    cyberdog109 said

    Hi Icelady, the point I was making is that I don't carry bags round with me all the time just in case I want to go shopping. I appreciate that it suits some people's lifestyles to keep strong bags in the boot of their car for "the weekly shop". As a single person I don't do a weekly shop and may visit the supermarket several times a week, when I have the time. I need to put my shopping into something, so plastic bags it is! I do reuse them for my rubbish at home and they are biodegradeable, unlike many purpose-made bin liners! If I had to pay a few pence for a bag, I would pay it. I have been to France and Ireland in the last couple of years, where they already charge for bags and I have just had to stump up the cash. I see people in those countries walking out of the supermarket with armfuls of shopping and nothing to carry it in, which is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion.

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  • sludgeguts
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    sludgeguts said

    I will not use a supermarket plastic bag, nor will I pay to use one of their 'bag for life', In the same way as I will not wear clothing with a brand logo on the outside.

    why should I pay THEM to advertise THEIR product?

    Seeing as how we have established that we are already paying supermarkets for their carrier bags (they don't get millions of carriers [per week?] printed at no cost), then why not simply get some nice quality shopping bags made up & offer, for example, 5 to each loyalty card free of charge? This would surely be cheaper than constantly paying out for carriers and a great way of advertising.

    Additional bags could be purchased for a token fee.

    Personally, I have a couple of great string bags my nan knitted (good fundraising tip for day centres etc?) which have been going strong for at least 30 years. I also have some promo bags from various organisations (grab the freebies!).

    Incidentally, my local butcher has some reusable shopping bags which he sells for 50p as a fundraiser for cancer research. I imagine the cost for these can be somehow offset as a charity donation? If he can do it (as a tiny operation) I'm sure supermarkets could manage.

    BTW, anyone remember the time before free carriers? Supermarkets simply left all their cardboard boxes for people to pack their shoppoing into & councils picked up bales of cardboard from outside your house (but I am going back 40 years!).

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  • cyberdog109
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    cyberdog109 said

    Sludgeguts, this still doesn't solve the problem of having to carry these reusable bags with you all the time. I'm in favour of your idea of returning to cardboard boxes left out for customers to reuse - that was a great recycling idea :-)

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  • AdAstra100
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    AdAstra100 said

    For every plastic bag bag I see dumped in our local roads and lanes by the litter louts who seem to inhabit this country, there are five plastic bottles, two fast food cartons, two beer or soft drink cans, two empty cigarette packs, dozens of cigarette ends and similar amounts of chewing gum dumped by the same sort of people. The bags, which are now biodegradable, do have dual use, are not the major problem. It is the people! All of the above organisations are mostly concerned with the indisciminate littering which goes on and plastic bags are the easy way of punishing everyone while the litter louts continue to throw everything else out the car window, including plastic bags which they may have paid for!! However, the major part of their concerns are not being addressed. So many people sneer at Singapore because of its zero tolerance of littering but actually we need it over here!

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  • simongrenshaw@yahoo.com
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    simongrenshaw@yahoo.com said

    We use all our supermarket bags to put our recycling in. If we didn't all the paper would be blowing down the road on windy days and wet on rainy days and the recycle people keep the bags to recycle anyway. If we didn't get them for free we would have to buy them so that wouldn't help the environment. We don't re-use them for shopping as the quality is so appalling that they barely make it home in the first place. There are much better ways to help the environment.

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  • ra1ph69
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    ra1ph69 said

    How would "charging us for the privilege of using paper bags" be "the only way to achieve" the goal of reduced plastic bag usage?

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  • cyberdog109
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    cyberdog109 said

    It would go some way to achieving the main goal, which is making us do as we're told, because apparently "they know best"!

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  • moreteavicar
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    moreteavicar said

    I'm totally with Icelady. Newer generations have gotten used to convenience, and few people want to take responsibility for the waste they create, whether that's shopping bags floating across the fields or rubbish strewn on the side of the roads. They don't want to recycle, but are quick to object at proposed landfill sites in their area. Many people proudly wear the St George's Cross when England football matches are on, and then leave their lager cans and other litter all over the streets after a spot of vandalism. Its the strangest form of pride I've seen. Bags might be the tip of the iceberg, but you've got to start ingraining responsibility somewhere.

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  • Mike10613
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    Mike10613 said

    People who object to plastic bags, do so one day and then fly half way across the world the next. It's do as I say philosophy, not do as I do. If you want to protect the environment lets put a nice fat charge on aviation fuel and make it global. Make all manufactured goods carry a 3 year warranty and stop importing crap. Thermoplastics are fairly easy to recycle and most are.

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  • T5P8
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    T5P8 said

    I'n not wasting time on the plastic bag none issue.

    I want to see banksters and politicionsters sorted out first then we can waste time on plastic bags.

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  • manom
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    manom said

    we should take more active resposibnility as an individual for our environment. The politicians should draft up a law for that, but it doesnt mean we can use one use plastic bags as we please. It is just a common sense to protect the environemnt we live in. We all know it is so conevenient not to carry a bag when we plan shopping, but is it really all that matters for us, convenience?

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  • cyberdog109
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    cyberdog109 said

    I would call it practicality, not convenience. I'm simply not going to walk around with my pockets stuffed with old shopping bags.

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  • Justkeepgoing
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    Justkeepgoing said

    Why do shops still supply plastic bags? Surely the better solution would be to return to using paper bags including heavy duty paper carrier bags. Only a few years ago Sainsbury's supermarket used to offer a strong brown paper bag as a alternative but for some reason they discontinued it.

    Should we not also be looking at all forms of packaging most of which is simply designed to stop small items being stolen from shops or so that they can be hung on a display rack. As far as the customer is concerned it is just something to fight your way into before throwing it away.

    Remember also that the majority of plastics that we take for recycling have to be taken abroad for separation and conversion into pellets, is this really what we should be doing with something we have used for a few minutes or an hour or two at most?

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  • Tanni
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    Tanni said

    Note we already pay for plastic bags and the packaging. No manufacturer or retailer will ever give free bags as the cost of such packaging is already included in the price of the product/products.

    If its the environment that we are supposed to be protecting, why are there less paper/cardboard bags etc? These are easily recyclable and more biodegradable and the main ingredients of such bags are provided from recycled paper/cardboard.

    One must also note the toxins used in the manufacture of inks that are used n branding the bags. That's an altogether different scenario but nevertheless also overlooked.

    People forget the amount of energy that is required to recycle the products. You have transport costs, storage and the chemicals and fuel used to reduce the components to pure ingredients. Never mind the processes used to manufacture the recycling machinery, vehicles for transport, the protective clothing for workers at the plant etc.

    The whole of idea/ concept of recycling is flawed if these small factors are overlooked. A fresh approach is needed that looks at everything involved, otherwise we are having the wool pulled over our eyes yet again. We try to but recycled but is it really good for the environment or is it just a scam...most of these promotions are scams and us Joe public feel good about it as we think we are contributing!

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  • Ted
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    Ted said

    I don't know why I have to pay 5p for a McDonalds bag, recycled and recyclable.

    The 5p includes 1p VAT!

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  • CuNNaXXa
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    CuNNaXXa said

    A standard bottle of Fairy Liquid (HDPE) is equivalent to about 10 plastic bags. It is all well and good trying to reduce the amount of plastic that is in the environment, but many of the products we buy use excessive plastic, compared to the flimsy bags we use to carry those products home.

    Also, a whole industry has sprung up around the creation of plastic bags, so any impact on usage could affect the employment of many.

    Also, many of the bags now in circulation are bio-degradable, meaning that instead of taking 100 years to break down, they now only take several. Also, many councils collect recyclable waste separately from household waste, so those bags will be processed and re-used (or should be, according to the local council propaganda).

    As with all things, there will always be groups who have knee jerk reactions to anything they perceive as a threat. If a plastic bag is a threat to wildlife, charging 5p will not change that threat by one iota. A plastic bag, whether free, 5p, or £5, can still kill a goose, or a child (plastic bags can suffocate, if used improperly, or properly, depending on your viewpoint).

    One final thing worth considering. The groups behind this levy on plastic bags state that it would help protect our environment. What proof do they have that any sort of small levy would make a difference?

    Basically, if they are going to make bold statements, they should provide the necessary proof. After all, if you have just spent £75 on your weekly shop, are you really going to worry about the additional cost of those shopping bags, which would probably amount to no less than 45p? Probably not...

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  • Justkeepgoing
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    Justkeepgoing said

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    "albatross5 said

    I must ask glynh,...What problem? You mean the non-problem the eco-nuts construct to try to damage our lifestyles?"

    Oh dear albatross5, so your "lifestyle" is as fragile as a plastic bag! No wonder the ancient mariner tried to eradicate you with his bow and arrow.

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  • Tanni
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    Tanni said

    Do not forget the countless marine life such as fish,whales and dolphins that have been poisoned by plastics and other toxins such as the oil and gas that is used to manufacture them. We should consider using bags made out of organic materials such plants...yes hemp, sea weed etc can be used to make bags. Many third world countries use paper bags and bags made from green stuff like plants. Flower power all the way please!

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  • Greg64
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    Greg64 said

    Let’s have a little more company responsibility... plastic bags cost next to nothing to produce, years ago it was paper bags, then we went on a crusade to save the trees... if it’s not one thing it’s another... so when will all businesses introduce bio degradable bags, there out there already.... perhaps it will make it easier on all of us including the environment.... It seems that the quick fix remedy in today’s society is let us have a "charge" "cost" or "tax" on things that are always put onto the tax payer.... What a load of rubbish... I remember when M&S came out with the 5p charge and they would say all of that goes to charity... Again, what a load of rubbish, 3 years on, and if you ask or look at some tills at M&S they "now" have a display that tells you that 1.5p goes to some sort of environment scheme, and the other 3.5p????? In their pocket I reckon!!

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  • sharkeyW
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    sharkeyW said

    these bags are also used for kitchen bins....we would have to purchase pedal bin liners, making the whole excercise neutral! better to educate the population, and rigorously prosecute those who litter. The cost of supplying these bags is already built into prices....do you think shops would highlight to us the price reductions made if bags had to be purchased?

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  • electricblue
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    electricblue said

    Easy to overlook the 'toxins' in the ink because there aren't any these days, certainly not on consumer products.

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  • camanderm
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    camanderm said

    Justkeepgoing - It is rather obvious that albatross was just quoting plastic bags as one aspect of eco-madness to damage our lives. I am sure we can agree that the eco-nuts want us to reduce our use of energy in a variety of ways (from air travel to air conditioning) to make us less comfortable and damage our lifestyles. Plastic bags are just the tip of the "eco-fanatics" iceberg.

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  • JRTL
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    JRTL said

    We reuse the supermarket bags for kitchen waste instead of buying bin liners. As others have pointed out we already pay for these bags. The real problem is litter louts. Many of these bags are now Biodegradeable. The total energy cost of making a canvas shopping bag is probably the same as several thousand plastic bags. As for paper bags, well the paper industry is actually a lot more polluting than the average polyethylene plant!

    Please note, I am totally in favour of energy efficiency and environmental protection. The litter issue probably won't be completely fixed by charging for bags. I think there's likely to be a psychological behaviour changing effect from charging though.

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  • Justkeepgoing
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    Justkeepgoing said

    Surely it should not be an issue about paying for the plastic bags but more generally what is the value and impact of our use of plastics. Plastics are a revolutionary development when used correctly and where they can be recycled at their end of use. Because of their electrical insulation properties and moldability they have enabled many industries to develop products that would have been impossible to create using any other process.

    Because of the ease of production there has been a serious problem created in the use of packaging which is the use of mixed plastics which are difficult to identify and separate for reuse. Unfortunately these mixed plastics will then be disposed of in the easiest way which may be landfill or dumping at sea. As we all know most plastics will take hundreds of years to breakdown in the environment but the degradation occurs in stages that releases smaller polymers and complex chemicals that are themselves damaging to the food chain.

    The widespread use of consumer plastics only started in the 1950's but we now have waste storage issue in land fill and a vast lake of plastic debris in the Pacific Ocean which is continually growing and spreading into the other oceans. Is this our legacy?

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  • CuNNaXXa
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    CuNNaXXa said

    To be honest, the enviro-nuts would better be spending their time trying to get polystyrene banned, rather than HDPE plastic (High Density Polythene, which can be recycled).

    In our place of work, we recycle as much as possible, including re-using bubble wrap when sending stock out, returning cardboard layer pads and boxes to our supplier so that they can re-use them. In fact, the art of recycling and re-using is to have a chat with those who supply us and those we supply, to have a system in place to re-use these resources. I can tell you that it works very well, reducing the amount of recyclable waste by a good margin.

    Obviously, one thing that is almost impossible to recycle is expanded polystyrene, unless it is the smaller packaging. Expanded polystyrene is the bane of our lives. You cannot crush it, you cannot remould it, and you cannot melt it down and reform it. You cannot even recycle it because most, if not all, authorities have no facility to handle the stuff.

    From printers to TVs to washing machines to tumble dryers to fridges and freezers, these goods are packed with expanded polystyrene, that ends up bloating out the bin. If an alternative method of packing was used that utilised material that could be recycled, this would save massive amounts of space at land fills.

    Obviously, expanded polystyrene has its uses, such as insulation material in fridges and freezers (wrapped between two sheets of metal or normal plastic to stop it from dropping granules), but then such uses are for a long period of time (usually years or decades), so the environmental impact is greatly reduced over the same material used purely for packing.

    Now, onto one final note about recyclable material. MacDonalds use recyclable material for practically all their packaging, so the box the Big Mac comes in is cardboard, as is the milk shake container. This is heartening considering that when driving down the road, you can see a trail of MacDonald's containers that have been chucked out of car windows (especially around the area that I live, which has TWO drive through MacDonald's). This is obviously not MacDonald's fault, but the ignorance and laziness of those purchasing those products, and who are too lazy to take their litter home with them.

    This all comes back to the simple fact that if a goose dies because it was suffocated by a plastic bag, we don't blame the industry for producing the bag, but the mindless idiot who allowed the bag to become litter.

    Anyway, why should responsible shoppers be punished for the sins of the minority? Of course, it is the British way. One person does something wrong, and the rest of us are made to suffer.

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  • Der Krobsen
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    Der Krobsen said

    This is surely a supermarket led campaign. Whatever happened to the paper carrier bag which is very recyclable? I remember Sainsbury's had a very well made example.

    Also there is more than one way to re-use supermarket bags, to line your rubbish bins for example. If you do that you don't buy the supermarket bin liners. Fancy.

    Surely it's the total number of bags sold that's a concern, not just the checkout ones.

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  • realistic_thoughts
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    realistic_thoughts said

    It is my contention that, far from being detrimental to the environment, disposable plastic bags are beneficial and free disposable bags promote the following:

    1) Taking litter home responsibly in the bag (from picnics etc) for binning at home or in the park if bins available

    2) Double wrapping organic waste for disposal to retard methane production in the landfill

    3) Using as home bin liners to save buying liners

    4) Picking up dog droppings for binning

    5) Collecting the usual kids litter left in the car for onward binning

    6) Carrying shopping as they do not beahve like the old paper bags which fell apart when wet and took more energy to produce anyway.

    Long live the free disposable plastic bag!

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  • camanderm
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    camanderm said

    I have to agree with realistic_thoughts that disposable plastic bags have been shown by independent studies to be less environmentally detrimental than papaer bags. Paper is an organic material and hence releases methane itself as it anaerobically decomposes in the landfill. Paper is useless for the sort of logical reuse that is commonplace as cited by r_t.

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  • Abigail Thornton
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    Abigail Thornton said

    It may be that charging us for the privilege of using paper bags is the only way to achieve that goal. Surely that is a typo!!

    Siting Ireland's example: That was a co-ordinated and determined attempt to deal with litter, of which the Plastic Bag Environmental Levy of 2002 was only a part. There was an advertising awareness campaign and something happened that was bigger than the sum of the parts. One-use plastic bags to carry shopping became culturally unacceptable.

    When Ireland introduced its levy in 2002, plastic bag use dropped 90%... but there was a corresponding rise in bin liners, rubbish sacks, doggy bags...

    Single use plastic bags must be amongst the most successful products in history. That is because they are actually useful.

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  • majortruth
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    majortruth said

    Recommended Abigail Thornton just for the last two sentences. BTW litter increases without free plastic bags as people tend to drop their picnic or sandwich packaging instead of bagging it for the bin. There really is no excuse for charging for disposable plastic bags. At least free plastic bags give us all the opportunity to use/reuse them for the benefit of our own convenience and the environment.

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  • les1
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    les1 said

    Supermarket plastic carry bags should be banned full stop. We got by without them before I am sure we could again. I must admit we all thought that they were the greatest thing since sliced bread but the public have blighted the World with them. Do away with them.

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  • nosbort
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    nosbort said

    In places where a charge for plastic bags has been introduced the total amount of plastic, by weight, used has INCREASED.

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  • peptroy
    Love rating 1
    peptroy said

    I think a replacement needs to be made, why don't they have biogradable bags in this day & age. People need bags when they go shopping & often forget to bring their own or don't have enough of their own when doing a big shop. Sometimes we buy more when we get there, than we need. Also, its ok to bring your own giant bags to put your shopping in if you have a strong man with you, otherwise these bags are so big you put everything in them & can't carry them, and who wants to carry around 15 small bags with them. Bags are needed from the supermarket, perhaps strong paper ones.

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  • PlasticPup
    Love rating 8
    PlasticPup said

    M&S is the worst example to use, I see them as completely hypocritical and one of the reasons why I just don't believe the hype in paying for plastic bags. Yes they charge for the thin larger food shopping bags which could possibly be re-used if needed but they don't charge for the tiny sandwich bags which are of no use at all afterwards and even more likely to end up as litter, they also don't charge for the decent thicker bags in their clothes departments. If they reckon it's all about the environment, what's the difference?

    As many others have already said, the costs of all supermarket carrier bags will already have been included in their mark up costs. Why should we have to pay again? If anything give a discount to those who bring their own bags.

    Personally I don't carry lots of spare shopping bags around with me every day and as I don't drive I tend to get my shopping at lunch time or on the way home from work as and when I need it. Even the thicker "Bags for life" (or paper ones for that matter) don't last very long when lugging them on and off public transport with mucky floors! Which brings me to the debate about how we never used to need plastic bags in the good old days. Well times have changed, people work further from home now, shops are further out of town now. There aren't always good quality butchers and bakers just round the corner to stock up fresh every day so we go to bigger shops less often, buy more stuff and need bags to carry that stuff home in.

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  • sharkeyW
    Love rating 7
    sharkeyW said

    It would be far better to educate litter louts using heavier fines etc. I use bags in my kitchen waste bins- if shops stop giving them out I'd have to buy bags, giving zero gain (except to the retailer)

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  • bazza1970
    Love rating 2
    bazza1970 said

    I think charging for plastic bags is one of the biggest rip offs going. I feel so strongly about it, I created a blogpost on the very subject. Please read, follow and comment if you agree http://mrcashinsmadworld.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/the-great-5p-carrier-bag-charge-rip-off/

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  • jegwe
    Love rating 20
    jegwe said

    There are no single use bags. I always take my "single use" bags to the supermarket and they generally last for four or five visits. Some last more, a few last less. I fill my bags up, but I have noticed that many elderly people often put only two or three items in their bags because they cannot carry them, so a tax will hit the elderly particularly hard.

    I also reuse the small bags that are supplied for fruit and vegetables. They last for ages.

    At risk of saying something unpopular, the things that I would like to see banned are the bio-degradable bags because they degrade giving off CO2, which is the last thing that we want added to the environment. I believe that they are environmentally irresponsible. When they have degraded, we no longer have a useable bag or recyclable plastic. We have simply wasted the material.

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  • cavangal
    Love rating 0
    cavangal said

    I am seventy seven years old and I never take a plastic bag when I do my shopping.

    I feel sick when I see people taking handfulls of bags in sainsburys and stuffing them in their trolleys

    Yes,Theyshould have to pay for them.

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  • Clive_Windsor
    Love rating 28
    Clive_Windsor said

    Can I be seeing things? Cavangal feels sick when people take plastic bags? That must be treatable nowadays. It seems we have to pay to stop Cava feeling sick or would he/she still feel sick if we paid?

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  • rocketflies
    Love rating 34
    rocketflies said

    Clive....I get the impression it is just Sainsbury's plastic bags that make him or her sick. Perhaps it's that vile orange colour? Just a thought.

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  • Arblaster
    Love rating 41
    Arblaster said

    I heard a guy on the radio this morning say that if Christopher Columbus had dropped a few plastic bags into the sea in 1492, they would still be in the sea now. Intact.

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