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Why the economic recovery makes me nervous!

Harvey Jones
by Lovemoney Staff Harvey Jones on 22 May 2009  |  Comments 23 comments

Spring is in the air, green shoots are bursting out of the barren economic ground, but Harvey Jones is more worried than ever!

Happy days are here again! After months of doom and gloom, the economy has suddenly given us a rare glimpse of spring.

Property sales have hit an 18-month high, with the average asking price rising a sunny £5,000 in four weeks to £227,441.

The Council of Mortgage Lenders has admitted its estimate that 75,000 people faced repossession in 2009 was too pessimistic, given that just 12,800 suffered that fate in the first quarter.

And now the FTSE 100 is up nearly 30% from its March lows.

All that sounds jolly good. So why do I feel so anxious?

Too much, too soon.

Instead of celebrating, I feel more nervy than at any time since the collapse of Lehman Brothers last October.

When that disaster struck, we all knew what to do. We hunkered down, hoarding our pennies, paying down our mortgages, shopping at Lidl and clinging on to our jobs.

Now finance professionals are suddenly lining up to tell us the worst is over. House prices are up! A new bull market is roaring! Savings accounts are paying over 4%! Repos are down! Jobless figures are better than expected!

And I don't know how to react. It's good to hear positive news for a change, but I just don't trust it. I feel it is too early to strip naked and dance gaily in the fields, because a few green shoots do not a glorious summer make.

Brace yourselves


We are still, after all, in the middle of the worst recession since the Second World War. The figures may have improved slightly, but only from horrendous to very bad.

Just because somebody stops banging your head against the wall every five seconds and bangs it every 10, doesn't mean life is great.

And the economy still has plenty more bad news to swallow. Unemployment may still top 3 million, which could strangle any house price recovery at birth.

We might still face another banking shock. The IMF has warned that the global financial sector faces another $3 trillion of losses before the crisis can be considered over. I won't sleep easily until those toxic assets have been mopped up.

And the situation seems to be getting worse rather than better in central and eastern Europe, where the rampant debt crisis could torpedo western European banks.

It wouldn't do much for the UK either.

A long way to go

Even if we do avoid another crash, recovery will be a long, slow haul. It will involve higher taxes, lower pay rises, cuts to frontline public services and greater job insecurity.

It might also involve inflation, if politicians see this as the only electorally acceptable way of shrinking their debts.

Nor can we expect a return to easy borrowing or double-digit house price rises (mercifully), given the regulatory shackles to be placed on bank lending, and the fact that the next generation of first-time buyers is likely to be crushed by student debt.

Let's be careful out there

Nor have the banks suddenly turned into paragons of good practice and fair-minded lending.

They may have gone easy on repossessions this time round, but only under intense pressure from their main shareholder, the Government.

And they are shamelessly exploiting us to repair the holes in their balance sheets. The average SVR is now 4.19% above base rate, compared to just 1.9% this time last year. That's 120% higher.

So tread carefully, because rip-off Britain has survived the credit crunch in depressingly rude health.

Keep calm and carry on

Now more than ever we need to Keep Calm and Carry On, because if we get over-excited another banking crisis could hit us like a hammer blow.

My advice to you is to keep on hoarding your pennies. Or rather, save what you can, preferably in an account that feels it is polite to pay a little interest.

Keep paying down your mortgage. It may be cheap now, but how will you cope when the Bank of England start raising base rates again? 

If you can stand the risk, invest a little also, in case the bull market continues and you miss out altogether.

Continue living within your means, whether that means hunting down online bargains, growing your own vegetables, or becoming a slave to lovemoney.com's Frugal Friday.

And if you have clung onto your job, be grateful.

Clocking off

I really am doing my best to enjoy the recovery, but I can't help but be edgy. As John Cleese said in his film Clockwise: "It's not the despair. I can stand the despair. It's the HOPE that gets me."

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  • Johnny5
    Love rating 11
    Johnny5 said

    we really need glass half empty people like you Harvey !

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  • peepobaby
    Love rating 49
    peepobaby said

    glass half empty but his brain certainly works

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  • NZJenn
    Love rating 5
    NZJenn said

    A lack of caution got everyone in this mess to start with, proceeding with caution now is the sensible way forward.

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  • petitemisschief
    Love rating 22
    petitemisschief said

    I agree with NZJenn - we need to go but go with caution. This recessionwas partly brought about by 24 hour news media sensationalising everything and causing a loss of confidence in people who don't normally give a toss about the economy and suddenly everyone stopped spending. I think the positivity we are now seeing is an attempt to reverse the damage done and restore confidence. I maybe lucky but as long as I hold on to my job I'm far better off than I was a year ago as my main outgoing - my mortgage has reduced by 25%. So I have my rainy day pot set aside and I'm spending after saving up for things. Will never touch credit again though

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  • Karada_uk
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    Karada_uk said

    There is always a rise in activity at this time of year, which is why I predicted an upturn starting in April to people 6 months ago. May is the main month for weddings so there is always a surge in house-buying at this time. The time to see if it is a real recovery or just temporary will be the autumn when we will start seeing if the school-leavers found jobs and seasonal jobs finish. That will be the real test.

    It is nice to see that some of the banks are talking about turning the clock back to the "Know Your Customer" style of banking instead of relying solely on the Credit Reference Agencies, who were largely responsible for this mess and, yet, who came out of it with no criticism. All the "Toxic debt" was created on the basis of credit scoring, which is really no better than fortune-telling.

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  • Lolup
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    Lolup said

    Thanks for the write up Harvey Jones, you have every reason to be nervous and we have indeed a long way to go before things get any better.

    We are all in this together and must find solutions to get us out of this mess; LESS RELIANCE ON CREDIT, LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS, AVOIDING ITEMS WE CANT AFFORD, SAVING FOR DEPOSITS e.t.c

    The sooner we started talking and acting positively; the better. The media is not helping matters at all, there's too much sensationalism in journalism, too much negativity in the media and this will do no more than kill people's spirit. Even people who have money wont spend because of fear.

    Definitely there's a recession in the world economy but we all have to stay focused, be cautious but yet.......optimistic.

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  • bimber
    Love rating 44
    bimber said

    The size of the glass is irrelevant if you're only interested in the water.

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  • alnrg
    Love rating 1
    alnrg said

    Bimber - you make me laugh insightfull too

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  • Spikus
    Love rating 24
    Spikus said

    OK, I can appreciate that people need something positive to hang on to but hold your horses. There seems to be a belief that this 'recession' is all but over when it has barely begun.

    Think massive government borrowing, think higher taxes that MUST come to pay for it (yes, that means you guys will be paying the banks back), think unemployment rising and the cost of that to the government (you), think about all the small businesses that have/are going broke and the knock on effect on the spending of the people affected. Think.

    We now live in a 'now' society. We want everything now. We have a generation who have never known saving. We now want this recession to be over because we want the good times to return NOW.

    It doesn't work like that. Look at history for parallels. Recessions last YEARS, not a few months because we want them to. The media might be sensationalist but the stock market is still dreaming with a rude awakening coming its way. It will be over when it is over and no 'seasonally adjusted/massaged/self-interest led/ignore the bad news, here is a green shoot nonsense will change that.

    Be cautious. This recession is not one with milk teeth. Look to history. It is the only indicator worth a damn.

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  • Jeannette47
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    Jeannette47 said

    Its difficult to have anything other than a glass half empty mentality. I really do not think we have even started with this recession. We have a banking system whose finances are a mystery even to the 'Experts', and monies from those banks stashed in countries where the UK has no right to investigate them - a likely fraud that will never be unveiled. On top of that we have a Government horribly tainted with self serving greed, who apparently do not have to follow the same tax rules as the rest of us - they can make up their own. Britain has fallen into the trap of believing its own publicity - we are not and never have been a democratic ideal. What we have been is clever at hiding deep inequalities and corruption. Of course those with ill gotten gains will not really suffer, though it will pain them  to see their obscene incomes fail to achieve massive interest. That's small comfort to the ordinary man.

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  • Jeannette47
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    Jeannette47 said

    A post script! Radio 5 had an ex Public Servant on one of its shows. He stated that he had been a civil servant 30 years ago and what was currently being revealed about MPs expenses was small beer. What he knew (unable to go into detail) would make your hair curl. It all has to be paid for at some point!

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  • Tumbleweeed
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    Tumbleweeed said

    Property sales have hit an 18-month high, with the average asking price rising a sunny £5,000 in four weeks to £227,441.

    I am going to show my ignorance now , but surely house prices have to fall a long way further before we are at rock bottom. How can the average first time buyer with a small deposit get onto the ladder when house prices are still very high? Am I going mad or couldnt you buy a house for £80,000 to £100,000 before houses prices started to boom, I know I am going back a long way!

    I know a lot of people are very worried about the fact that house prices have dropped 17% (or whatever the actual figure is) but they need to drop a hell of a lot further before people like me can afford to buy.

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  • AndyFD
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    AndyFD said

    OK so things might be bad, and they may get worse, but all these people who think it compares to the 1950's can't have been there!

    AndyD 8-)#

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  • Joss
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    Joss said

    "And they are shamelessly exploiting us to repair the holes in their balance sheets. The average SVR is now 4.19% above base rate, compared to just 1.9% this time last year. That's 120% higher"

    Surely as some kind of stability returns, the inter-bank lending rate should start to come down (and hence the the mortgage rates on offer should fall)? One of the recent lovemoney articles says "fix now". We could do just that, however I am stalling as I suspect the the gap between the mortgage rates and the base rate should close a bit as the banks start to lend again one day. 

    Any thoughts? If I have this wrong I would like to know so I can get on and fix!

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  • sanyara
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    sanyara said

    A month ago, my other half & I were thanking the deities that with a 5% pay cut plus three days of 'unpaid holiday' a month, we were going to be belt-tightening, but OK. I still managed to make a well-above the minimum payment on our credit card debts (we paid off the mortgage last year). Last week, he was told that except for 'senior management', the whole company would be taking a 50% pay cut, but would still be expected to come into work... No ,as for anyone employed in a SME,we're still wondering when it'll bottom out.

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  • LandOfConfusion
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    LandOfConfusion said

    Tumbleweeed,

    “I know a lot of people are very worried about the fact that house prices have dropped 17% (or whatever the actual figure is) but they need to drop a hell of a lot further before people like me can afford to buy.”

    I'm in the same boat as you but unfortunately thanks to our great leader's affinity for the BTL market, any reasonably priced houses are just going to be snapped up by investors who don't need the home, just the rent. As it is they're getting unbelievably good tax treatment and now thanks to Labour even the banks are going easy on them.

    If you're a skilled worker you're probably better off emigrating. There are plenty of other countries with fairer housing markets, better run economies and where social problems are dealt with at the root, rather than the leaf.

    Joss,

    “Surely as some kind of stability returns, the inter-bank lending rate should start to come down (and hence the the mortgage rates on offer should fall)?”

    It doesn't quite work like that. The banks need to repair their balance sheets and we're not being forced to give them enough money, so they will keep rates high to make up the difference. If I had a mortgage now I would fix it for as long as possible RIGHT NOW.

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  • peepobaby
    Love rating 49
    peepobaby said

    The interbank lending rate is already at an all time low on 3 month sterling so I wouldn't be caught waiting for it to fall even further. Then again I wouldn't take a 2 year 3% fix either and the rates on 5 year are no more generous than 10 year fixes that just over 5% with our good old nationalised lenders.

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  • gardener
    Love rating 25
    gardener said

    At least the recession is good for the environment I think; people travel less often abroad and less often on a plane, they drive more efficient cars and insulate their houses. My vegetable garden is doing well and my grocery bill should come down significantly from this week on as salads, spinach, herbs and onions are ready, to be followed by mangelbeet and broad beans. Building my chicken run this week and selling the surplus eggs. No more credit of any kind. Here's to the good life!

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  • Joss
    Love rating 0
    Joss said

    Thanks for that Tumbleweed, will get researching!

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  • gola
    Love rating 4
    gola said

    "We now live in a 'now' society. We want everything now. We have a generation who have never known saving. We now want this recession to be over because we want the good times to return NOW. "

    I agree completely. And have you noticed that in the blame game few people have mentioned good old Joe Public, who does not have a clue how to handle money.

    About twenty years ago there were a couple of lines in a pop song of the day which went "I want it all and I want it now"; and I'm afraid too many people believed it was okay to think like this. And even today there are obvioulsy many people who still believe they can, and should be allowed, to live like Posh and Becks on a small fraction of that famous couple's income. 

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  • McLeodC
    Love rating 13
    McLeodC said

    The optimists who always see the glass half-full don't get any more to drink than the pessimists who see it half-empty - they just get a nastier shock when they hit the dregs!

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  • LAWR3NC3
    Love rating 9
    LAWR3NC3 said

    Ref: Spikus et al

    I am not sure an historical perspective is going to be very helpful here. Most commentators are correctly pointing out that this is an unusual recession. But the curious feature is simply the speed at which it arrived.  In the early summer of 2008 serious pundits were wondering whether & to what extent there would be any knock-on effects of the US sub-prime mortgage problems. There was no wide discussion over the likely effect of the credit crunch; let alone the onset of a recession! While the reality was that the negative GDP numbers had already started in most western economies. This is the only truly unique aspect. We are in a faster world. Bad things (such as poor sentiment - the main driver of a recession) are, through the internet, diseminated immeasurably wider and faster than ever before. There is a case for believing that both this & future recessions will be upon us much quicker than anticipated & (when sentiment improves & the word is once more spread to the 4 corners of the globe) will depart with equal speed.

    This is a theory only. There is no data either to refute or deny its veracity. Personally being a cautious optimist, I am viewing our, undoudtedly very considerable, economic problems through the bottom of my half full glass of sparkling Evian, & believe we'll be out of this far faster than the doom mongers (who failed to predict its arrival until the recession was wiping itrs dirty feet on the mat) would have us believe.

    H St G.  

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  • Joss
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    Joss said

    I just realised I should have been thanking LandOfConfusion for the good advice regarding rates! Apologies!

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