Watch out for this eBay scam!

Rosalind Kent
by Lovemoney Staff Rosalind Kent on 09 August 2011  |  Comments 53 comments

Avoid this terrible eBay scam!

Watch out for this eBay scam!

Whilst most of us are familiar with the term caveat emptor (“buyer beware”) the term caveat venditor (“seller beware”) is not so well known.

Unfortunately, it is a term that will forever be branded on the wallet of one lovemoney.com reader, who recently contacted us after selling her iPhone on eBay for £500. She received the money from the buyer into her Paypal account and posted the item to the buyer’s address. Suspiciously, a week later, she received - by recorded delivery – a box containing pieces of wood from the buyer.

After she’d signed for the box, the buyer contacted Paypal and asked for his money back - and, without questioning the matter with the seller, Paypal agreed to refund it in full. On discovering this, our reader contacted Paypal to explain what had happened, but the site did not respond. A few months later, Paypal started threatening her with debt collection court proceedings (as she had already withdrawn the £500 she’d received from her Paypal account).

On hearing this sad tale, we decided to investigate. Is it right that this can happen to honest sellers? And what can you do protect yourself?

Safety on eBay

In the eBay marketplace there is much emphasis on the safety of the buyer and the site is full of useful safety tips. But when problems arise, are sellers equally protected? After all, buyers are not the only ones who can become victims of a scam: sellers need to be just as wary of fraudulent or dishonest transactions.

Here’s how to ensure you don’t fall victim to trap:

Seller protections

There are measures in place to protect sellers, but it is largely a case of taking responsibility for your own safety and making sure you follow the seller safety guidelines to the letter. You are also strongly advised to pay for extra protections, such as using Recorded Delivery or buying insurance for your package contents. For large sellers and traders these extra costs are worth it to protect yourself. But if you are a small time private seller, selling low value items, these added costs (along with the fees payable to both eBay and Paypal), can make any profits disappear very rapidly!

eBay and Paypal both have comprehensive details on their websites addressing seller safety. The eBay Safety Centre gives tips such as safe ways to accept payment, recognising suspicious bids, checking the identity of your buyer, examining feedback and taking steps to ensure safe delivery.

Paypal also have a page dedicated to seller Protection on eBay, with step-by-step instructions including details on which items are eligible for seller Protection, retaining online trackable proof of delivery and obtaining Proof of Signature for items worth £150 or more.

eBay and Paypal

Some find the relationship between eBay and Paypal a little too close for comfort. On 3rd October 2002 eBay acquired PayPal, and any user of eBay will be aware that you are politely and firmly encouraged to use the money transfer company.

There are costs associated with using Paypal, and some resent paying fees to eBay and then shelling out yet more cash to Paypal on top!

But the bottom line is that it is by far the most secure and safe method of transferring cash, especially when compared to a payment by cheque or via a money transfer agent like Western Union.

Customers are particularly advised against using these payment methods, which are considerably less secure when taking or making payments to a stranger.

Scam awareness

A basic scam involves a buyer simply claiming their item never appeared and asking Paypal to refund their money, which Paypal can deduct from the seller’s account in some instances.

However, if the seller has followed guidelines and procedures, particularly in regard to using a trackable postal service and obtaining proof of delivery, then they should not be out of pocket. It is also a good idea not to delete any evidence relating to a transaction as claims can be made weeks or even months after an item has been sold!

Be aware that fraud is much more likely to occur when selling high value, popular items, such as iPods or iPhones. In the scam detailed above, the fraudulent buyer sent back a box full of wooden blocks. Why? Because the blocks make the package feel like it is the correct weight, sp the seller is more likely sign for it - then get an unpleasant surprise.

Unfortunately, if you sign for the returned package, the buyer can then make a claim to Paypal for a refund, which Paypal can then take directly from the seller’s account.

What’s the answer? If you’ve recently sold a high value item on eBay, and the buyer hasn’t contacted you to say there is a problem, refuse to sign for a parcel from your buyer – or at least, open it before you sign!

What to do if you are a victim

A case of fraud like this can be very frustrating for a seller. Chris Dawson, co-owner of Tamebay (a useful independent website providing news and information about the inner workings of the eBay marketplace) advises sellers that although most disputes can be resolved through the eBay resolution centre, there are exceptions.

If you believe your item has been stolen you should report the matter to the police. You will then be issued with a Crime Reference Number and if police decide to take the matter further an investigating officer will contact eBay who will assist fully with the investigation. eBay takes criminal activity on its site seriously and has a dedicated team working with law enforcement agencies such as the police and Trading Standards, as well as specific contact page for law enforcement agencies to use.

What are the alternatives?

If you have been the victim of a scam, or are just becoming disillusioned with eBay, simply jumping ship is not always an option for a seller.

The problem is that there are not many realistic alternatives to the online giant. They are still by far the largest online market place and give sellers unparalleled access to a vast number of potential buyers which just can’t be equalled elsewhere.

If you do choose to go with one of the alternatives to eBay you may end up paying less in the way of fees - but you will be reaching such a vastly diminished marketplace that you risk not selling the item at all!

Have you been an eBay victim?

Let us know your experiences of using eBay – use the comments box below!

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Comments (53)

  • pinnate
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    pinnate said

    I've been a seller on Ebay for 9 years but just fallen foul of this scam - which Ebay refuse to look at - Buyer pays for item, I send. Buyer then puts freeze on Paypal account and refuses to send item back.

    Ebay records it as payment made and won't do anything AND takes fee for payment. Paypal won't deal with a dispute over Ebay item and payment doesn't go through. Buyer retains item for free and seller looses not only item but also initial postage and packing.

    As a result, i've stopped using Ebay. I've spent hours online and also emailed correspondence between me and buyer, asked them to look at original listing etc but all I have from Ebay is 'this item is recorded as being paid,'.

    Don't trade on Ebay They don't care about scams or if you are a buyer, poor quality items - as long as they get the fee.

    Report on 07 December 2013  |  Love thisLove  0 loves
  • alvin69
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    alvin69 said

    I think this is a clear example of fraud by an eBay seller: http://www.thetargetcdcollection.com/2013/12/dec-4-2013-swindler.html

    Report on 30 December 2013  |  Love thisLove  0 loves

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