Avoid Rip-Off Redundancy Insurance

Jane Baker
by Lovemoney Staff Jane Baker on 22 September 2008  |  Comments 24 comments

Worried about losing your job? Why redundancy insurance isn't the answer.

With the economy in trouble and the threat of recession on the horizon, you may be feeling jittery about the safety of your job.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) reports the redundancy rate is rising. In the three months to July, 138,000 people were made redundant -- a 28,000 increase on the previous quarter.

So you might be tempted to take out an insurance policy which provides a payout if you lose your job. But I think that could be a mistake.

I can understand why redundancy insurance -- also known as unemployment insurance or redundancy cover -- seems like a good idea. After all, this type of policy will replace some of the income you lose following involuntary redundancy.

But the problem is redundancy insurance falls into the same category as the now infamous payment protection insurance (PPI). PPI covers payments for loans, credit cards or mortgages when you're unable to do so as a result of accident, sickness or unemployment.

If you're a regular Fool reader, you'll know my colleague, Cliff D'Arcy, has waged a war against rip-off PPI since 2003. The PPI industry has been the subject of a widely publicised mis-selling scandal, so you should treat any PPI-related insurance policy with caution.

Many PPI policies have now been exposed as hugely over-priced for the protection they provide and difficult to make a successful claim under. But should redundancy insurance be tarred with the same brush?

What is redundancy insurance?

Let's take a look at the basics first of all. Redundancy insurance policies vary depending on the insurer, but here are some of the rules:

- 50% to 65% of your income is normally covered up to a maximum benefit of £1,000 to £2,000 a month.

- If you make a successful claim you'll normally only receive benefits for 12 months. (Some policies provide cover for 24 months).

- Payments will stop when you return to work, although you can carry on paying the premiums for cover to continue.

- A claim will only be successful if you have been made redundant involuntarily. If you opt for voluntary redundancy, you resign or you're dismissed, you won't be covered.

- During the time you're claiming, you must also be available and actively seeking work.

- There will normally be a waiting period before you start to receive benefits. Your payout will be deferred for a period 30 or 60 days. Some policies will backdate benefits to day one.

- You won't normally be able to claim until a certain period has elapsed after taking the policy out. Typically this could be 120 days. And you must be continuously in employment for six months before you're made redundant to make a claim.

- You won't be covered where you knew redundancy was impending at the policy start date.

How much does redundancy insurance cost?

Finding a policy that only covers redundancy is actually pretty difficult. Often the policy will combine accident, sickness and unemployment into one plan.

That said independent insurer, British Insurance, has just launched a new policy, SafetyFirst, which covers redundancy specifically. Here's an idea of what it costs compared to a policy which offers multiple protection:

Monthly Benefit

Type of policy

Monthly Premium

£1,000

Unemployment only

£34

£1,000

Accident, sickness & unemployment

£39

£1,000

Accident and sickness only

£19

As you can see, redundancy cover costs £34 a month which provides a monthly benefit of £1,000. This seems pretty expensive to me considering it won't pay out for any longer than 12 months. It also looks pricey given that accident and sickness cover can be added for just £5 extra a month.

Imagine you make a claim after 10 years has passed. By this time you would have paid a total of £4,080 in premiums (assuming they aren't increased) for a maximum possible benefit of £12,000. And, after making a claim, if you return to work before the year is up -- which hopefully you would -- the benefits would stop, reducing the overall payout.

Income Protection Insurance (IPI)

It's still sensible to protect loss of income as a result of accident or sickness in case it is so severe you're incapable of working for a time. I believe it should be a higher financial priority than covering redundancy where -- even in a tough economic climate -- you still stand a chance of finding alternative work.

For this reason, I think it makes more sense to choose an Income Protection Insurance policy (IPI) rather than redundancy insurance. IPI doesn't protect against unemployment, but it does replace some of your salary following any accident or illness you may suffer.

For the same £34 premium you could get an equivalent monthly benefit of £1,000 under an IPI plan, but it will continue to pay out until you're ready to return to work. If you never recover sufficiently to work again, the policy will pay you an income until you reach retirement age.

However, there's usually a longish waiting period before you start to receive benefits -- 13 weeks is pretty common. If you want to receive an income from day one, your premiums will shoot up.

If redundancy is your main concern, my advice is to self-insure. In other words, protect yourself by building up a savings cushion large enough to see you through a few months unemployment, rather than spending your money on pricey redundancy insurance.

A good choice is to put your emergency cash in a high-interest savings account such as the market-leader, Kaupthing Edge Savings which currently pays 6.55% AER on easy access savings.

Even better, if you're never faced with redundancy during your working life, you'll have accumulated a decent nest egg instead.

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Comments (24)

  • jimliveinhope
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    jimliveinhope said

    I'm an insurance professional, and think your article a little harsh on redundancy insurance.
    You remarks are factually correct but make little comment as to the alternatives (of which there are very little) also you state that the policies will only cover a period of 12 months. What you fail to point out is that it is a period of up to 12 months for ANY single period of unemployment and there are few limits to the number of claims which can be made in any period of insurance.

    Your sample prices are some 50% higher than I could arrange the cover for too.

    You then offer as a more suitable comparison a product WHICH OFFERS NO UNEMPLOYMENT COVER WHATSOEVER????

    For individuals reading this site, I would urge you to seek the advice of an IFA or protection specialist who will advise you on an affordable portfolio of covers suitable for YOUR requirements. BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT READING GENERALIZED REMARKS ABOUT COVER WHICH YOU MAY FIND VERY VALUABLE INDEED

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  • insuranceblogger
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    insuranceblogger said

    There seems to be some confusion here over redundancy insurance and income protection which are largely the same ASU cover.
    The safety first product offered by British Insurance http://www.britishinsurance.com is different as it covers your complete lifestyle should anything happen to you including redundancy or unemployment. Lifestyle being you can spend the benefit to cover either or all of your Income, Mortgage Payments, Rent, Utility Bills, Loans, Credit cards, Household bills, Other lifestyle commitments.
    We think that's far more sensible than tying cover into a particular debt!

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  • Danvil
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    Danvil said

    The writer also fails to take into account that if you were to take out insurance, get made redundant a few months after and the had payment for 6 months before returnming to work - then you would have done quite well out the whole thing.

    Some of us don't have massses of cash to stick away just in case - so what does he think we should do in this position - just cross our fingers and hope?

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  • Gdog
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    Gdog said

    I'm looking at redundancy ONLY cover now. Anyone know any good ones. I'd want at least £2k cover possibly more for 1 year, possibly 2?????

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  • YoursAnon
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    YoursAnon said

    This seems a fairly pointless and irresponsible article to me.

    The article has a premise that he reader is worried about job loss in the current economical climate. That means taday, this year, not in 10 years.

    Ok, so the redundancy insurance costs £40pm. Monthly requirement e.g. £1,500 (which seems to be the maximum payable). Person loses job after 6 months, and is jobless for 3 months. Insurance contributions paid = £240. Insurance payout = £4,500. And if you don't lose your job, is losing £40pm worth the piece of mind?

    Why does this article base it's sums on not losing your job for 10 years? People are worried about the here and now. Also why does this article compare the benefits of an insurance policy which doesn't payout for Redundancy?

    Great advice guys, Let's save up our £40 per month and see how much cash we have in say 6 months, when fear we'll lose our job . If you can think of some other way to turn £40pm into £4,500. Now, that would be really useful advice.

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  • pgilc1
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    pgilc1 said

    This is a willfully bad article. The arguement against redundancy insurance is that it falls into the category of PPI's, PPI's often offer poor value, i know of someone who campaigns against PPI's, therefore redundancy insurance is bad.

    I took out redundancy insurance 4 years ago at £50 per month, six months later was made redundant and they paid out the £1500 a month no issues. Again was made redundant in august, and i'm now getting a handy £1500 into my account monthly until i get another job.

    Play by the rules and redundancy insurance is a very worthwhile safety net.

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  • gingerman
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    gingerman said

    Just looking at taking out a policy with British Insurance. Reading the small print, it states: " If you claim you must keep the policy running and continue to pay your premiums as they fall due. If you do not then your policy will end."  So if you are unfirtunate and need to make a claim, you must continue to pay the premium whilst you receive the benefit i.e. for a further 12 mths - is my understanding of this correct ?

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  • john olivier
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    john olivier said

    The writer wants to live in the real world, I have lost my jobs on servaral occasions and had mortgagae and income protection payouts of circa £80k at least

    Even at £120 a month premium(as it is now) thats 666.6yrs before there is no benefit to me and it was a lifesaver. Being unemployed is bad enough not having any money would have finished me off.............

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  • john olivier
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    john olivier said

    yes ginergerman that is correct

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  • sm1th
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    sm1th said

    I hope my experience will assist you and help you aviod common pitfalls and rip of redundancy cover.

    1. If you use an adviser they will not offer you advice on all products. I would go as far as saying some will offer high commission paying products such as PruProtect even when the terms of the cover don't quite fit. Advisers from the comparison supermarkets have paid a heavy premium just to talk to you so are under pressure. Therefore do your own research online.

    2. Prices can be subject to change with short notice. Try and select products that will fix the cost and only amend it if they have to once a year. Going with the cheapest cover could turn out more expensive especially if you cannot switch provider as your work circumstances have changed.

    3. If you use a firm to assist you do your reseach on them. Ask them how much commission they will earn and how is it paid if its a large sum paid in advance ask for full details of products excluded.

    4. Read all the documents to ensure you fully understand what you are buying. Any comments from sales people you rely on when making your purchase should be supported by writen email or post confirmation before you sign up.

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  • sm1th
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    sm1th said

    Be careful of discount offers especially the sort where a discount is offered without telling you full details of the terms.

    Ensure that you know the terms of the offer before you sign up. Some dishonest advisers and websites are offering discounts e.g. "25% discount off premiums" but not mentioning that this is for a limited short period (one year) etc...

    The discount is typically a refund of 25% of the annual premium and you will need to commit to this policy for 2 years or longer or risk having to repay it.

    This could be very expensive over time and although you may consider switching at a later date this may not be an option if your work circumstances change for the worst.

    Also if you claim the benefit may pay for say 12 months and after your claim you might want to ditch the policy as you need to be with your new employer for 6 months on a permanent contract before they could even consider another claim. Putting you in the position of either repaying the discount or having to pay for cover that is of no use.

    Discounts are a good thing, just be on your guard so you don't get stuck with a deal not as good as the deal you agreed to (as advertised).

    One further point is if you do buy insurance and get a quote and apply and to be told after your application the "25% discount" applied for a short period. Make a formal complaint to the regulator about misleading advert you may find that you could have a valid claim against the firm.

    http://www.fsa.gov.uk/Pages/Doing/Regulated/Promo/Report/index.shtml

    http://www.fsa.gov.uk/Pages/consumerinformation/if_things_go_wrong/index.shtml

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  • k norris
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    k norris said

    This article is a little out of date and unrealistic. I would struggle to save much from my salary let alone enough to keep me going for 12 months should i be made redundant.

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  • Mark Trehorn IFA
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    Mark Trehorn IFA said

    Most redundancy insurance will only pay you for 12 months, cannot be claimed if the redundancy is 'voluntary', and cannot be taken out if redundancies have been announced in your firm. (sensible really). In view of the current economic climate it is currently difficult to obtain and expensive. Much better to save spare money into a cash ISA for emergencies. The normal IFA recommendation is that people should have at least 6 months worth of net income (or outgoings, whichever is greater) set aside in an easily accessible cash account.

    If you are unlucky enough to be made redundant and are in a position where you owe money ask for help as soon as possible. Don't be ashamed (it happens to the best of us) and don't leave it till things get really bad to ask for help. There is plenty of free advice out there from Citizens Advice and others, not need to pay for it.

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  • Richard Ward
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    Richard Ward said

    I tend to agree with Norris. The challenge I had was finding spare cash to save! I have a mortgage to pay and some loans we took to build our new kitchen. When I researched around, realised that for less than £50 a month, I could cover about £ 2,000 which is not bad at all. I want to be realistic and would not be mis-led to buy an ISA of all things!! and guess which department my council closed first - citizens advice...

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  • Mike Elliott
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    Mike Elliott said

    Interesting suggestions here. I researched everywhere for a decent redundancy protection and to some extent tend to agree with Richard, why dip into my own savings if I can buy an insurance to cover my bills if the inevitable were to happen. The challenge though is choosing a right product. Again there are a few out there who can mis-lead, so my advice from first hand experience was "do your research". I finally ended up buying from Best Insurance - http://www.bestinsurance.co.uk and the reason? the advisors seemed knowledgeable, answered most questions I had and not pushy - hate IFAs and advisors calling and harrassing...

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  • sm1th
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    sm1th said

    The recommendations on here are firms doing self promotion.

    British insurance product offer inferior terms with 120 day initial exclusion and their price comparison is not representative as it excludes some of the most competitive providers in terms of price policy terms.

    The British Insurance policy can cancel your cover or increase the cost with just 30 days notice! This could leave you in a right pickle without any cover.

    How does this then provide any sort of peace of mind?

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  • Mary Anne
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    Mary Anne said

    I agree with the previous comment. British Insurance claim to be the best in the market but their initial exclusion is 120 days which is much more than other players in the market. Also the point on pricing is so true, they have used competitors that suit them and please do not be beguiled by such comparisons.

    If you want a good cover, talk to the top 4-5 specialist providers and then make your choice.

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  • sm1th
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    sm1th said

    Be careful as some brokers and websites are giving misleading information on excess periods on LV cover, so don't rely on what they tell you.

    You have to read the FULL terms and conditions and NOT the key features. This will confirm that payments are made in arrears and they have a excess of 1, 2, 3 and 6 months (called the waiting period). Meaning the earliest you will get paid if you claim is approx 2 months after the event with the payment being only 1 month as the waiting period you chose is an excess.

    Some firms need to start reading the documents before they try and sell them!

    The reviews on this website I suspect are not genuine as it seems odd behavior for someone to buy an insurance product and start posting reviews on this article.

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  • keiran mathews
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    keiran mathews said

    I have just had to change my cover as my previous insurance provider wrote to me stating they were going to increase my premium by almost 100%!!

    Went online and got an instant quote for fixed premium cover

    The policy includes accident and sickness cover and I found the fixed premium to be very competetive

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  • Roger 2011
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    Roger 2011 said

    Got to agree with Keiran.

    Synergy have just written to me informing me that from September my premium is to go up from £59 per month to £101. I can't afford to keep the policy.

    I to have taken cover with Liverpool Victoria. Premium £72 per month which is fixed for 5 years.

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  • sm1th
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    sm1th said

    The recommendations on here are firms doing self promotion and should not be trusted.

    Do your own research.

    LV is not suitable for those with health conditions as you are likely to be declined for all cover.

    Also blue collar workers will pay a heavy premium due to their higher occupation risk for the sickness cover which is mandatory therefore making the cost of the cover too expensive to consider.

    The shortest period you will wait before you receive any payment during a claim is 60 days as the shortest excess is 30 days and this is unpaid and claims are paid in arrears. LV documents don't make this clear and some advisers are taking advantage of this promoting the products as have a NO EXCESS PERIOD which is not correct. Contact LV direct on their claims number if you want the confirmation of this 08007565869.

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  • sm1th
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    sm1th said

    Keystone is a good policy, and it may have a short initial exclusion period of 60 days but this is NOT the shortest especially if you have just taken out a new mortgage, re-mortgage or loan as some providers will give you instant cover with NO initial exclusion.

    Also there are a lot of websites allowing you to quote for the Keystone product when maybe they shouldn't as the cover amount is directly linked to certain expenses. Therefore you cannot just insure any amount. Its safe to say that if the website does not ask you for information on your expenses then the quotes generated will NOT take this into account possibly giving incorrect quotes which are invalid!

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  • Mrs A Knowles
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    Mrs A Knowles said

    A quick word of advice.

    I took out cover with LV late last year. I was quoted a 30 day waiting period which I thought meant that if I should claim I would start to receive my benefit after 30 days. This is not the case - It means I have to wait 30 days before the policy commences and then a further 30 days before I start to receive my benefit - a total of 60 days.

    If you require your cover to start as soon as possible after being made redundant you must look for cover stating Back to Day 1. This means once I have been out of work for 30 days my 1st benefit payment will be paid.

    I have transferred my cover elsewhere through (link removed by admin) and will now be paid after 30 days rather than 60 if I need to make a claim. I was also surprised that my new cover cost almost half as much as LV.

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  • LoveTheMoneyIHad
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    LoveTheMoneyIHad said

    As far as I am concerned this is nothing more than a Rip off. I will relay these facts.

    Called to make a claim, Staff were rude and condescending. As I had an accident not long after the policy had started, they stated that they would investigate me.

    Made a complaint about conduct of staff, ignored.

    Made another complaint, received a letter stating it was a copy of original that was not received.

    Filled in Claim form (Had to pay at Doctors £25 for him to complete a part they wanted).

    Sent claim form off with birth certificate as requested. No idea why they want my birth certificate (probably there investigation of me.

    Still waiting on payout of claim now been three months, contacted FOS to make complaint as written in letter.

    FOS says cant make a complaint as it a Lloyds of London product. Have to now wait until the end of January to make a complaint to the FOS. then 5 months.

    Informed Keystone if not want to payout on claim stop taking money from my bank account. Ignored and continuing to take money from my account.

    Its nothing more than a scam just like how PPI was a scam, but it is not the selling of it that is the issue its the administration of it that's the issue.

    I suggest to anyone your better off putting money away in a savings account rather than give it to Keystone, who are MMS (Marketing Management Services Ltd) who then are BRS International Ltd who are allegedly a part of Lloyds of London who are in-fact just called Lloyds.

    Checking companies house records on some of these companies reveals some interesting facts.

    Trust me avoid them like the plague

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