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Continuous payment authority: we are being failed by the Financial Ombudsman

Neil Faulkner
by Lovemoney Staff Neil Faulkner on 17 May 2012  |  Comments 12 comments

The Financial Ombudsman Service has been ruling on the side of banks that have refused to cancel your monthly subscriptions - even though banks are legally obliged to do so.

Continuous payment authority: we are being failed by the Financial Ombudsman

You might have read recently how customers have been given unnecessary grief from banks when they've tried to cancel recurring debit or credit card payments.

The Financial Services Authority, the Office of Fair Trading, many banks and most money websites have not been giving entirely clear or accurate information about cancelling these so-called “continuous payment authorities” (CPAs).

CPAs are often used for magazine, DVD or other monthly subscriptions. They're like direct debits, except that the retailer takes the payment through your debit or credit card number rather than through your bank account and sort code.

Unlike direct debits, banks have been resisting when customers have asked them to stop a CPA.

Legislation was introduced in 2009, the Payment Services Regulations, which requires banks to stop these payments on your request, even if you haven't already approached the retailer to do so.

However, banks have not been obeying this law. What's more, the Financial Ombudsman Service has also been ruling that banks don't necessarily have to cancel CPAs.

The Financial Ombudsman Service

First, it's worth revisiting just what the Financial Ombudsman Service is.

The FOS is a free, additional layer of protection for customers, over-and-above your right to take a business to court.

The FOS can look into your complaints against banks, insurers and almost any other financial services business. If it decides someone has been treated unfairly, it orders the business to reimburse its customer, and add compensation for inconvenience if appropriate.

If the FOS rules against the customer, the customer doesn't have to accept the decision and can still take the financial services company to court.

Read How to complain to your bank and win for more.

Financial Ombudsman late in understanding CPAs

I spoke to Phillipa Cook at the FOS. She didn't admit that it had misunderstood the law along with everyone else, but instead pointed out that the way the law is written is very “opaque”. She couldn't pinpoint for me when the FOS worked out that banks must stop CPAs at a customer's request. Cook also pointed out that the regulator itself has only just clarified the law.

A 2009 issue of the FOS's newsletter, Ombudsman News, made no reference to the new law, while stating:

“Unlike a direct debit, however, a continuous payment authority is not covered by any bank guarantee and can only be cancelled by the business that holds the authority. Consumers often find this surprising.”

Cook's right that the law is unclear, so I don't think we can make villains of anyone who missed it – probably not even the banks on this occasion. You can take a look at the Payment Services Regulations for yourself.

Financial Ombudsman doesn't stick to the law

Cook also pointed out that the FOS rules on fairness as opposed to points of law, which means it won't automatically decide that your bank should cancel your CPA.

The FOS is the consumer's alternative to the legal system. It takes the law into account, but above that, adjudicators and ombudsmen at the FOS have to consider what they believe is fair for each party under the specific circumstances.

As a result, it did not always support banks before the Payment Services Regulations took effect, nor has it always supported customers since the new law took effect. In one example Cook recounted, the FOS took the view that the customer under the circumstances should have tried to cancel the CPA with the business first, rather than the bank.

A contentious but essential service

My conversation with Cook really rammed home how much the FOS takes its own view of what is fair rather than merely following the law. Lord Hunt in his review of the FOS in 2008 was encouraged by the fact the it gave a service to consumers that was very different to the courts.

Yet this is a contentious point. Banks may rue the FOS's power, yet some customers whose claims are rejected also have grounds to complain about an unsatisfying lack of consistency or poor judgement.

However, I dread to think what devastation financial services providers could cause if the FOS was not around.

The FOS receives millions of complaints a year, or 12 a second, and it's currently upholding three-quarters of complaints, up from half, largely thanks to huge numbers of successful PPI claims. The FOS takes this pressure off the court system and gives customers an easier way to face down the all-mighty banks.

If your CPA claim has been rejected by the FOS

The FOS gets many complaints related to these kinds of recurring payments.

If an adjudicator at the FOS has ruled against you in recent months, you could try to approach it again and ask for your complaint to be pushed up the chain to one of the hundred or so ombudsmen, who will make a final decision. Take the opportunity to remind them that the bank is legally obliged to cancel a CPA, in case your adjudicator wasn't aware at the time.

If your complaint is older, or you have already had a final decision from an ombudsmen, you could have real difficulty overturning the decision. The FOS is not obliged to re-visit its rulings even if new evidence turns up, and anecdotal evidence reveals its reluctance to do so.

That said, if it believes some decisions haven't properly considered the law, it could choose to be more flexible. Be persistent, polite and concise.

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Comments (12)

  • mikecunliffe
    Love rating 22
    mikecunliffe said

    As I see it when you enter into a contract with, say, a magazine and a CPA is set up it's with the agreement of both parties.

    The bank - YOUR bank simply acts as your agent in facilitating that payment and YOUR bank has no contract or relationship with the supplier of goods - in my example the magazine.

    It's entirely your prerogative to cancel the CPA - but in doing so you might be breaking your contract with the magazine. It then becomes the magazine's option to take legal action against you if they feel that they have a case.

    It is not, in my opinion, the bank's job to refuse you, the bank's customer, your request to cancel. As the magazine would have no redress against the bank were they to agree to your cancellation I do not understand why any bank would refuse to cancel a CPA at the request of the account holder.

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  • CuNNaXXa
    Love rating 362
    CuNNaXXa said

    A couple of points to note. When you give over your credit or debit card details, they are supposed to tell you whether this is a one off payment or a recurring payment. Not all retailers do, especially those from foreign lands (the US for example), and many who set up the recurring payments without your authorisation have no practicable mechanism for you to cancel those recurring payments.

    While British firms will usually stop a CPA at your request, foreign firms are not always subject to our moral point of view. Some firms are specifically set up to trap people into a CPA, such as online Casinos and Porn sites.

    People need to question who they are giving their 16 digit number to, and if there is any question of ethics, steer well clear.

    Also, read the small print. Some sites will mention, in the small print, that this is a recurring payment.

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  • Mike10613
    Love rating 599
    Mike10613 said

    I have one recurring payment like this and I wasn't told when it was set up. The firm has a reputation for dodgy practices but I found that out after I dealt with them. The real question is why are the ombudsmen always on the side of the rich and powerful instead of the people? It's because they are just a token gesture, made by lawmakers who make bad laws and uphold a corrupt legal system.

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  • Talent
    Love rating 77
    Talent said

    I posted this comment on another Love Money site....

    A few years ago a friend of mine had a problem where his son, who'd left home, had a book club subscription being paid by recurring payment on a credit card he no longer had the use of. Books still arrived every month even though told to stop. Bailiffs were threatened at my friends address, he panicked and contacted the company and offered to pay them off, he thought it was a final payment. He paid by credit card and then found the recurring payment was now on his card. That was really difficult to sort out with a solicitor and cost my friend dearly.

    There are scum out there.

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  • electricblue
    Love rating 643
    electricblue said

    Mike - you're a worn out, scratched old record on subjects like this. The ombudsmen are supposed to look objectively at both sides of the situation and they pretty much do exactly that. Like a lot of 'watchdog' authorities they don't have to take exact account of legalities and they aren't there to prevent people from their own gullibility. I've had no problems with Barclays stopping these continuing debits when AOL played games a few years ago and the banks do seem to take account of the bad reputations of certain companies.

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  • blackghostuk
    Love rating 0
    blackghostuk said

    Because you have had not a problem, doesn't mean that one doesn't exist! Some areas are grey because the human factor is not taken into consideration!!

    You'd be a fool to think that class and race don't play an issue, as it is something that is done in many areas on a regular basis without the batting of an eyelid.

    I have seen a case where the FOS have been prosecuted for such a thing as the evidence was overwhelming against the bank and an out-of-court settlement was agreed for more than they would have paid initially for an anonymity agreement about the case!!

    No one is infallible and the FOS are no exception. They get it wrong and the decent thing for them to do is rectify it without having to cover their tracks in the aftermath.

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  • justman
    Love rating 1
    justman said

    http://www.suite101.com/content/the-british-financial-ombudsman-service-fos--theory-vs-reality-a293103

    This is interesting in relation to the above article

    And you can find comments like those below in the internet all the time.

    http://uk.ask.com/question/why-is-the-financial-ombudsman-service-corrupt

    Why is the financial ombudsman service corrupt?

    The Financial Ombudsman Service is corrupt because it is biased against certain investors in favour of powerful and large firms. They are known to victimise small firms. They also reject valid investment complaints.

    Similar Questions

    The Financial Ombudsman Service – Good/Bad?

    The Jurisdiction of the Ombudsman can change from case to case (they even use the term "may"in their advertisements with respect to what they deal with). I had a complaint with my Bank, the Ombudsman Man said everything was fine, and that I was unjust in complaining - the Bank advised me to ignore the ombudsman as they had no faith in them - the bank wrote of the debts on my account, apologised, and removed all involved managers.. Conclusion: Corrupt+Crap=FOS uk.answers.yahoo.com

    The Financial Ombudsman Service – Good/Bad???

    Have you had a good or bad experience with FOS…

    In 2001, my brother and I submitted 5 complaints to the FOS…

    Reason - A U.K Bank had lied to us about documents going missing in the Post, had changed the amount of a Loan application without our authority & closed down our business account because we had complained about them…

    Whilst considering our complaints, the FOS re-wrote the first complaint and then deemed all of the complaints outside of their jurisdiction – Basically, they didn’t want to touch our complaints with a barge pole = Very Bad & long (almost 7 months)Experience!

    Express Review on financial-ombudsman.org.uk/default.htm

    by DCH2008 - written on 09/01/09

    Rating:

    I find the ombudsman as not very sympathetic at best, and borderline crooked/corrupt at worst.I had a dispute with my previous bank and put in a complaint against them through the ombudsman - but the adjudicator handling my case didn't seem very sympathetic or understanding.So I'm sorry to say this Financial Ombudsman but I don't think you're very good at handling such cases and a huge amount of improvement and understanding of customer's is ...

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  • CuNNaXXa
    Love rating 362
    CuNNaXXa said

    The Ombudsman system is in place to make us feel that there is a system in place to protect us should the system fail us. It fails, simply because those in charge of the Ombudsmen are the very same people who run the country itself.

    Take a look at Ofwat, the economic regulator of the water and sewerage industry in England and Wales. People are up in arms about the current water shortage, especially in light of the simple fact that we have just had one of the wettest Mays on record, coupled with the fact that our supply pipes are leaking like sieves.

    So, what did Ofwat say about the problem? They want to reduce the number of leaks water companies have to repair, even though many of them have already failed to meet their yearly target. The net outcome of this decision is that hosepipe bans will probably continue, while our water companies flush leaked water down the toilet, so to speak, and could even end up seeing standpipes back in our streets (the last time this happened was back in 1976).

    So, Ofwat wants to protect the profits and shareholders of the water companies, with no regard to the general population, or how they feel. We are constantly being threatened with a water shortage, backed up with a £1000 fine, while the water companies are being told, 'don't worry'.

    So, if Ofwat doesn't give a flying fcuk, why would FOS? After all, they make the rules, and they also change the rules, and they obviously ignore the rules when it suits them.

    Remember that there is no such thing as democracy. The only freedom we have is what they allow us to have, and if they want to take it away, they can.

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  • driver67
    Love rating 22
    driver67 said

    Justman you are completely correct in my opinion. The whole system is bent and is totally in favour of the Big Boys.

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  • Luniversal
    Love rating 47
    Luniversal said

    Banks are effluvium of Satan-- chapter 9,342.

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  • poppasmurf
    Love rating 31
    poppasmurf said

    Sounds about right.

    Protect the big money and say goodbye to your rights if your small.

    Just look how money was protected when the 2008 crash happened. The "small" people were left to rot and the big banks were allowed to keep on going with our taxes we in return got nothing... this really sucks.

    OK now here is a shocker "money isn't everything", it just happens to be everything to the society we have subscribed too or were born into. is it time for a change?

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  • r
    Love rating 67
    r said

    There seems to be a lot of dissatisfaction with the Ombudsman services on here. My recent experience, slightly off topic as it concerns correspondence with the Ombudsman of Communications, was a complaint because my telephone provider was charging me different rates to those published and did not respond to my letters. The response from the Communications Ombudsman was a letter asking to be informed of my GENDER and EMAIL ADDRESS before they would consider whether to proceed with my complaint.

    I think that the rating given by @justman above is pretty accurate. As with any big organisation, it's priority is to be self-perpetuating its existence.

    We really need a radical change in the way we are governed in these isles. There is too much corruption (with a little c) in government, to many jobs for the boys, particularly after our senior politicians have left office in the UK and gone to Europe, to little consideration for what the population really want. Surely, it is possible to balance a household budget; yes, the numbers are big but the principle is the same. We are not going to get back to a wealthy status in GB until we have manufacturing and exports of every type back again and a management (government) that can live within its means.

    r.

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