7 ways to make money you've never heard before

Neil Faulkner
by Lovemoney Staff Neil Faulkner on 29 January 2010  |  Comments 39 comments

One size doesn't fit all, so it's fortunate there are many ways to make a decent return. Here are seven which you may never have heard of before.

7 ways to make money you've never heard before

Of course, you want to earn the best possible return on your cash, but with rates on ordinary savings accounts stubbornly refusing to recover, it's time for you to get creative. Here are seven unusual ways you can do just that:

1. Lend to people

Zopa has existed for several years, but I think many people still don't get it! Website Zopa removes the middleman, banks, by lending your money direct to other people.

To do well you need to keep watching the rates borrowers are willing to pay, but you can massively beat term savings accounts for a little risk and a bit of effort.

Zopa suits people wanting a regular income particularly well. Zopa isn't suitable if you might need your savings sharpish, nor for regular savers, because you must lend more than £500 at a time for the guarantee that your savings will be split between 50 borrowers. (Which is useful to manage the default risk.)

2. Offset mortgages

When you think of mortgages you think borrowing, not saving. However, since we typically pay more in debt interest than we earn in savings interest, it can make a lot of sense to reduce debt rather than earn interest.

Offset mortgages do this, because you can offset your bank balance and savings against your mortgage debt, reducing your interest payments. Use our offset mortgage calculator to figure out how much you could save with one of these deals.

This is good for regular saving and lump sums, but ensure you get a good deal in comparison to the rest of the mortgage market.

Ed Bowsher takes a look at Zopa, an interesting alternative to the high street banks

3. Back to basics

I know many of you have already cottoned onto the benefits of saving in a high interest current account, but I want to include it anyway for those readers who may have missed it.

Many current accounts pay more than savings accounts right now. The Santander Preferred In-Credit Rate account, for example, pays a top rate of 5% AER for one year, on balances up to £2,500. Just bear in mind that to earn this return you'll need to switch your existing bank account and move your direct debits to Santander. But, better still, you'll also enjoy a £100 switching bonus when you do.

Another great current account with a high interest is the Lloyds TSB Classic With Vantage account which pays a rate of 4% on balances between £4,000 and £7,000. What's more, if you have plenty of savings you can open up to three Classic accounts and earn the same top rate on all of them. So that's a return of 4% on up to £21,000 of your cash.

But, don't forget, to qualify for either of these deals, you'll need to fund the account with a minimum of £1,000 every month, and you must stay in credit. 

4. Lend to companies

We've talked about lending to people via Zopa, but there's also an opportunity to lend to companies through corporate bond funds.

This is possibly the riskiest of the strategies that I'm writing about today, as the amount you'll earn depends on market conditions and the corporate bond fund manager's ability. What's more, there is a risk some of the companies will sink and fail to repay your loan. You'll certainly need a long-term plan in case you make a short-term loss. However, corporate bonds have a much longer track record than Zopa, which you may find reassuring.

5. Join a union

Credit Unions are not-for-profit organisations that care for members with a common bond, which might be your job or where you live.

They're best known for their ethics. Whilst the returns are usually small, those who save in credit unions can be sure their interest isn't earned from the profits of unethical products, but through reasonable loans to their peers. When you die, free insurance can as much as double your savings to your dependants.

These are typically good for regular savers. Search for a suitable credit union here.

6. Earn interest on spent money!

Continue to earn interest on money you've already spent by shopping using a 0% on purchases card. These cards charge no fees, so provided you pay the minimum each month, you don't use your card for anything else (e.g. balance transfers), and you pay off the remaining balance before the 0% deal ends, you've been borrowing for free.

You should try to put as much of your everyday spending onto the card as possible to free up the cash in your current account, which you then regularly transfer to a savings account, where it earns interest until you pay the card off completely at the end of the 0% introductory period. You can do this for 13 months with the new market-leading Tesco Clubcard Credit Card.

To find out more about this strategy - which is known as stoozing - take a look at The ultimate guide to stoozing.

7. Naughty ideas

Gambling and greed are number seven's themes. This one's a warning, not a recommendation!

Premium Bonds provide a lower return than easy-access accounts, yet they're not easy access. Also, the return is sporadic. Inividion finds the return over the long run has been perhaps 1%-2%, which sounds about right.

Unless you win a big prize, your return is going to be small. If you're punting for a big prize, it's better to buy a £1 lottery ticket each month and put your £1,000 of savings to more reliable use.

That was gambling. Greed is guaranteed equity bonds. They're disguised with different names, but the gist is you'll get, for example, 120% of the stock market's return over five years, and if the market falls you won't lose a penny. It's complicated, but Jane Baker explains just some of the worst catches here.

Get a best buy savings account from lovemoney.com

This is a classic lovemoney.com article which has been updated.

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  • ayeitis
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    ayeitis said

    I find no.3 shocking. This Government is willing to squander our money away in this mad scheme and for what? What is the purpose of this generous giveaway to the unemployed? I can see no benefit at all to the tax-payer or to anyone but the benefit claimant getting the 50% bonus.

    Sorry if this is terribly inarticulate, but I'm so angry I can't think straight.

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  • Citizens Adviser SX
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    Citizens Adviser SX said

    I was privvy to a savings gateway presentation from HMRC as part of a financial capability forum. I believe April'10 is now a little optimistic and the date may well be early summer'10.

     Around 8 million people will be likely to have access to this excellent start saving scheme, and the know your customer may well be simplified to gain better inclusion for these customers.

    Citizens Advice are likely to be a knowledge partner, so if anyone has questions once they receive their offer letter - the bureau will be there to help.

    Lee - Financial Capability Tutor

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  • ClaireA
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    ClaireA said

    Re. number 3

    I quite agree with ayeitis, and who can afford to save when they have no income anyway?

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  • Pablo
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    Pablo said

    Yep, I also agree with ayeitis. If you're on benefits the government can't do enough. Work for a living, even on a low income, and your in the wilderness.

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  • Leogem
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    Leogem said

    I've been a ZOPA lender since it started and it's great. You are wrong about having to lend at least £500 to ensure that it is split between 5 borrows. You can lend as little as you wish, £10 if you like and you can specify that not more than £10 is lent to any one borrower. So you can lend £50 and split it between 5 borrowers. I've made an average of 7.5% over the last four years.

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  • PDB11
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    PDB11 said

    I don't get the figures on Premium Bonds.

    Returns are 1 to 2 per centy, you say; and if you're gambling for a big prize, better to buy a £1 Lotto ticket each month and put your £1000 in savings.

    Yes, you're better off on average, because on average yoiu can expect a lot more in interest on the £1000 than in prizes. (Although 1-2% tax free is a lot better than many accounts do these days!)

    But looking at the prize fund, £1000 in Premim Bonds should net you £10 to £20 of the prize fund each year. £1 a month on Lotto tickets should net you £6.

    How about putting your £1000 in some sort of income bond with a return of say 4%. 3% after tax. Buy Lotto tickets with the income, and expect to receive (on average) £15 a year. Much the same as Premium Bonds, actually, and a lot more hassle to administer.

    So I'm sticking with Premium Bonds, although I should probably think about making them a smaller piece of my portfolio.

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  • msmoneywise
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    msmoneywise said

    I am an unemployed pensioner. Not an OAP (yet) but a canny planner whose password at work for years was 'ISHALLRETIRE@50' or variations on the theme, which I acheived! I have a comfortable income from pensions and investments, so don't cost the state anything at all. Will the government allow me to open a Saving Gateway Account??? Of course not! You have to be a burden on society for the UK Government to give you anything. How come careful workers and pensioners don't have any such deal offered to them? And what will these benefit claimants save out of? They appear to live hand to mouth anyway. If they have enough to save £25 p/m they are getting too much benefit, in my humble opinion. 

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  • deborah007
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    deborah007 said

    I am so annoyed now - I can understand how ayeitis feels. I am currently getting 1% or thereabouts on my meagre savings - I would love to get 50% interest on even an amount such £25 a month - £300 for doing nothing? Yes, please!

    I feel like kicking something I am so annoyed.

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  • nimrod
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    nimrod said

    No.3 is an utterly disgusting use of taxpayers money.

    Yet another incentive for people not to work! So, so angry.

    I would be very interested to know in what way CitizensAdvisorSX thinks that this is an "excellent start saving scheme". 

    The one saving grace is that there will be a change in Government to a party that HOPEFULLY will never pass a scheme such as this. I can't believe that I would vote for the Tories but there it is - I'm sick of schemes such as this Saving Gatweay that is symbolic of the wanton public spending that the Labour government is guilty of.

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  • hippobank
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    hippobank said

    thanks for another great article.

    I just noticed on 8. Earn interest on spent money! you've got the sainsbury's card, I noticed over at http://ccreport.co.uk/ specifically the post http://www.ccreport.co.uk/2010/01/interest-free-credit-cards-for-new.html Tesco offers 12 months on any purchases. Thought I'd point it out for others that want the extra 2 months.

    Other than that very very helpful!

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  • hippobank
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    hippobank said

    nimrod, I personally like number 3, that maybe because; I currently earn minimum wage £5.80/hour on a 36 hour week and work very hard for that. I try to save where I can and stay out of debt as best I can.

    It will be a great help for someone like me, but I do wonder about people who are getting jobseekers allowance and other such unemployment benefits getting this offer too. It's basically the government saying "if you put £25 of the money we've given you into a bank account, we'll give you an extra 50p for each pound on top" that makes very little sense to me.

    However for struggling lower income earners it will help out a lot! I appreciate the help lovemoney.com

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  • Bongo
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    Bongo said

    Investing in Premium Bonds is not gambling in my view because unlike the lottery you get any money you invest in Premium Bonds back. Given the extremely low interest rates available in ISA's or other savings even if I do just gain 1-2% return from the bonds this is a better than I would get through an ISA or another savings account. I can also invest more tax free in Premium Bonds compared to any other tax efficient vehicle available on the market. I don't understand your comment about about Bonds not being easy access - if you want to cash in your bonds you fill in a form, send it off and they disinvest your bonds within 8 working days - which is alot quicker than many other savings vehicles out there.

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  • cstone
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    cstone said

    All the irate readers on here throwing hissy fits about the 'outrageousness' of number 3, giving better savings to the institutionalised 'poor', needn't worry. On the current unemployment benefit, saving is well-nigh impossible for those who have only just been made jobless. The benefit pays for your food and utilities, providing you don't eat anything above very basic food and you don't go mad with 'luxuries', like heating.

    For the long-term unemployed (more than 6 months), saving is completely out of the question. Not even £1 a month is feasible. After a year, the benefit no longer covers even basics, for the simple reason that clothes, haircuts, and - God forbid - things such as entertainment - cannot be met by the money available - not if you want to eat and wash too.

    The scheme is intended primarily to look good, very few of the "wasters and loafers" you all fear so much will ever make use of it. They will not be stealing the money from your pension funds or starving your cats; you can all relax.

    May I just say though, it's lovely to see you all being so caring and Christian, really putting yourselves out there to understand others' predicaments. It really warms my heart. Every one of you is a credit to the teachings of The Daily Mail...   

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  • bengilda
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    bengilda said

    The "Gateway Account" is evidence of both financial profligacy and extremely muddled thinking.

    The targetted user base is those who are unable to support themselves without taxpayer financial support, whether it is by choice or not. Therefore to propose that this element can regularly save from their state regulated taxpayer handouts makes it very evident that the benefit payments are too generous.  Benefits provided by taxation should never be at a level required to live simply but not profitably and certainly not to have sufficient to save and gain an interest rate that can only be dreamed of by those who work.

    It is certanly not an incentive to encourage people into work.

    New Labour still does not seem to appreciate that funding for this ideological scheme can only increase the national debt by even more billions.

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  • nimrod
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    nimrod said

    hippobank - apologies, I should have been more specific - my anger wasn't intended

    for low income earners - the scheme gives low earners a chance to save

    when most of their money goes on bills and food - exactly the group of

    people it should be intended for - people who work for a living on a

    meagre salary and need a step up. Fair enough!

    What I'm annoyed about is that this scheme can become just

    another way for individuals to scrounge off the state rather than

    finding actual work. From a personal perspective, after being

    unemployed for months on end until thankfully (and at emergency point)

    finding work recently, I can say that there are thousands of these

    individuals, whose sole intention within the benefits system is not to

    do any "work" as you or I know it, but to sponge off a state that has

    for whatever reason wronged them in some way as to warrant revenge, and

    this is another method for them to do it. And cstone- this is coming from a (shock! horror!) Guardian reader. (By the way,

    there are a myriad ways that benefits seekers can get an income, not

    just JobSeekers, and believe me, they can gross amounts that

    to put it mildy, are not exactly breadline - isn't it nice they now

    have a nice high interest place for them to grow their hard-earned?)

    I'm all for the fair distribution of wealth, but only for those

    who deserve it. Sorry if that's an "unchristian" way of looking at

    things, but there we go. By all means, adopt someone from your local Job

    Centre Plus if you think it'll get you into heaven.

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  • Neil Faulkner
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    Neil Faulkner said

    Hi hippobank

    Thanks for your comment on the Sainsbury's Card. I didn't go into that in this article, but you'll notice that I linked to another article in that paragraph that goes into it in more detail. It's important that you read that before you rely on the 12 months for Sainsbury's thing, because it can be a booby trap.

    Hi PDB11

    You've misunderstood my point on Premium Bonds. The point is that if you're looking to potentially win a big prize whilst also hoping to get enough small prizes to make a bit of money, it makes more sense to buy the lottery ticket for the chance of the big prizes and to get a good savings account for a specified, certain return that will likely beat the small prizes you'd win.

    Neil

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  • bungalow
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    bungalow said

    Just to cheer up the 'daily mail' types who are incensed by the 50%

    the gateway saving schme was originally 100% not 50% added to your own savings if you live in the worst places of the UK, like Salford and were unwaged. Hope that chokes someone living in say Winchester paying 40% tax ha ha.

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  • Mike10613
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    Mike10613 said

    The Gateway scheme is a good idea. If people get in a habit of saving for things they won't get ripped off by legalised loans sharks. I had a leaflet through my letter box yesterday. It offered me a laptop similar to the one I'm using at double the usual price and then 39.9% interest on top; and then extra if I wanted an extended warranty! The total cost was around £1,700 for a computer you can buy for a few hundred. £7 or £10 a week may sound easy and not a lot of money, especially when your child needs a computer for school; but it's legalised robbery. Interest rates above 30% should be made illegal, it usury and as a Christian nation we should ban it. If the Muslims complain it's against Islamic law too.  

    The scheme will be at least partly self financing because it will mean less demand for crisis loans and grants from the social fund. It will also mean unemployed people may be able to choose between a few pints down the pub and saving their money. It may be bad news for the pub landlord, the local bookie, the bingo hall and the cigarette manufacturers. But it may be good news for alcoholics anonymous, gamblers anonymous and he local hospital treating smoking related diseases. 

    Most of the comments so far are simply right winged political bias; a bring back hanging and Margaret Thatcher mentality. We need balance in all things; an unbalanced mind has been proven to be unhealthy. We have no need for more equity booms, housing booms, scams, loans sharks and fat cat bonuses and expenses fiddles. We need a regulated stable approach to our national economics so we can come out of the recession, not for another boom; but for stability and security.

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  • Neil Faulkner
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    Neil Faulkner said

    Thanks for your interesting post, Mike10613. I've had such shabby computer offers arrive in the shape of a leaflet before too. If you have time, could you share with us here the specifications of the laptop that was in that expensive offer? I'd like to then pitch the idea to the editor of writing up this huge rip-off in an article, if that's ok with you?

    Neil

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  • Mike10613
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    Mike10613 said

    Hi Neil, 

    I got the service cover price wrong £1,700 was the TV on the next page. I'm writing for charity and sort of have a deadline. But I'll give details of this catalogue and the laptop.

    It's the Buy as you View catalogue. There website is http://www.bayv.co.uk

    The laptop is an Acer E-machine T4200 17" laptop.

    Intel Pentium dual core processor. 2Gb RAM, 250 Gb hard drive. 17.3 inch wide screen crystalbrite screen, DVDRW, wireless, Windows Vista. Product code is: F324.

    Cash price: £699.99

    Pay over 156 weeks at £7.47 = £1,165.32 @ typical 39.9% APR

    With service cover: Cash price = £909.99

    Pay over 156 weeks at £9.70 = £1,513.20

    Beware too of this companies Value Line, they are refurbished. 

    I don't have time today to check out the website but that is where I would start. My kids cancer charity takes priority today. hey have a lot of other stuff to tempt the gullible. I was thinking about a new LCD TV. I wouldn't pay £699.99 for a 32 inch though. I only watch TV 2 hours a day usually on my laptop in bed! lol.

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  • Neil Faulkner
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    Neil Faulkner said

    That's wonderful. Thanks Mike.

    Neil

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  • jasper
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    jasper said

    In principle the Gateway Scheme is a good idea for low earners to encourage some level of savings per month however , giving a 50% return on the investment when the rest of us might get 2% or 3% if we're lucky is extreme and totally unrealistic, I do not think it suprising that some readers are finding this offensive.

    I agree it is an unfair abuse of tax payers money benefiting only those who claim some kind of benefit in the first place , low earners or not we all deserve to be treated fairly and this is just unfair .

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  • jasper
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    jasper said

    Ni Neal

    On another note re premium bonds, you only need one lucky month and your quids in , I won £1,000 on my bonds not so long ago and that has more than covered any interest I may have earnt on the money , plus I can still get my money back .

    I try and take advantage of anything that is tax free , so second to doing an ISA, if you have spare cash and your not worried about losing the interest you may have earnt in exchange for the monthly chance of winning a possible million,well with interest rates as they are I say take the chance :o) Its always nice to dream of winning whether it be Lotto or Premium Bonds like they say "you've got to be in it to win it" and even better when you can get your money back if you don't.

    I look upon them as a fun way of taking a gamble with a guaranteed booby prize .. your money back :o)

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  • eLJay
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    eLJay said

    I think you would probably get a better deal at cash converters or similar places. If your kid needs a laptop then I would suggest getting a £200 net book as you might not still be paying for it when they take it to school and lose it, plus if it breaks then you do stand a chance of having paid it off so you can get another one.

    Possibly with a usb stick for them to move data around with - plus theres less chances of them messing the operating system up putting games in the drive.

    As for No3 well if it saves on handing out benefits and leads to a saving plus instilling some responsability as well then I'm all for it, don't really see why I should be buying other peoples kids new clothes from my taxes, I don't buy normally even them for myself. ;-P

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  • drmiket
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    drmiket said

    Regarding the Savings Gateway I think the idea is to give unemployed people encouragement to not waste money on beer, fags or even Sky TV. Direct.gov.uk says "It's for people of working age who are on lower incomes, and aims to help kick-start a saving habit".

    Which would you rather have - people getting drunk on wife-beater, beating said wife and ending up in A&E wasting tax-payers' money or using a savings account. It's very easy to just say the unemployed should try getting a job and not scrounge off the State and condemn everyone on income support to a pigeon hole and poverty trap. Yes, people abuse the system but those people are not going to be changed with a savings account. It's the rest, the honest, if unlucky, the sacked, the redundant who deserve a helping hand. It's capped at £25 a month for 2 years and you have to WAIT till the end to get the money. It's teaching self-control and patience instead of credit companies, loan sharks and "I'll have it now" attitudes.

    Also, if there is really "no money left" from income support then no-one will open the account and the negatives can sleep easy. I doubt you can save the full 25 per month but any amount is the idea.

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  • eLJay
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    eLJay said

    I was unemployed for a long while in the early 90's after leaving college living in darkest Lincolnshire and I have to say this would have been great for me as it took that long for me to leave the county and find a job and would have allowed me to pay a deposit on a flat rather than having to work for months and commuting (without a car).

    Good idea, though it may be poorly executed.

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  • Mike10613
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    Mike10613 said

    I have been looking for an Acer machine with the same spec as the one I mentioned, it's not easy. The new one has more memory and Windows 7 so that is old stock. The new one is cheaper with 6 months free credit at Tesco. I found the same spec with Vista (yuk!) here: 

    http://www.excelitservices.co.uk/shop/lxn620y001-173-acer-emachine-em525-21ghz-pentium-dual-core-t4200-2gb-mem-250gb-hdd-dvd-super-multi-vhb-p-3502.html

    £412 including VAT, bit cheaper than £699.99 but I would prefer the newer one.

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  • jondale
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    jondale said

    I tried the link mentioned in No5, which is described as follows:

    "Also, the bank offers anyone switching through this page a regular savings account that pays 6% per year".

    But it goes to a page on the Alliance & Leicester site that is about their 6% current account - NOT a savings account.

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  • sheesh
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    sheesh said

    ROFL no 3 is brilliant unemployment benefit is supposed to be subsistance living allowance so how exactly are they going to save £25 a week unless A) they are cheating the system and working on the side or B) they dont actually need the money and are living at home off someone else. Either way the people who are really in need of the help arent going to get any help as there money is going on living costs while those who dont need it will be making more money at the taxpayers expense?

    Ive often wondered how much the goverment would have to spend to develop a bit of common sense

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  • Jahnavi
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    Jahnavi said

    I have to say that the library is a great resource. In my county, if you

    are a member to one library, you can take things out from ANY library

    in the county…and on the Web site, you can search for DVDs that are

    available…let’s say you want to get two movies that you knew just came

    out, you could find out what libraries have them. I like to combine this

    with number 100 and ride my bike to the library for exercise.

    I am constantly amazed that you can come up with all these great ideas

    Thanks

    How to save money

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  • supasap
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    supasap said

    mike is right,,,,,,,, the blatant thatcherism and bashing the unemployed is so ill timed as usual and betrays the lack of intellect of the contributors...... in a town where there are 10 unemployed and 100 vacancies then fair enough ask questions about their motivation etc but in a town where you have 100 unemployed with 10 vacancies then there is little point in seeing this as a result of scrounging.............. why do you say things like this every time we have structural unemployment when the time to say this (if at all) is when unemployment is low?

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  • Neil Faulkner
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    Neil Faulkner said

    Hi all

    If you're confused about the comments not matching up to the article, it's because this piece has been re-edited and re-published by the website's staff. To make some of the comments above clearer, number three used to be about savings schemes for unemployed people whereby the government paid them an extraordinary amount of interest on their savings (although only on small amounts of money).

    Neil

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  • nicsta
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    nicsta said

    Neil, yeah that was totally confusing. Having just googled the "gateway account"; Isn't it a scheme that the coalition gov has now axed anyway?

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  • Mike10613
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    Mike10613 said

    The Gateway account has been scrapped by the new Condem government; I like that abbreviation, it describes them so well. Zopa is good but not as simple as it seems. It is like becoming a banker when you join Zopa. You don't get any interest on your money while the loan is being arranged. You have to wait for the loan arranger (or his partner Tonto) to arrange it; this can take a couple of weeks. The real interest rate isn't apparent until you have been a lender for 12 months and you can alter interest rates to reduce defaults by attracting people with good credit rating to borrow your money. I would estimate I am getting around 7.2 % interest plus a bonus for introducing others to the scheme. At 7.2% I would double my £500 in ten years so I would have £1,000 in 2020. Compare that to 2.6% from a bank and you would need to wait 27 years to double your money at that rate. I would be waiting until the year 2037 to get £1,000 back for my £500 invested. I can't wait that long! 

    On the subject of buying computers I have a new laptop on order after doing a lot of research. A lot of websites now use full page Flash graphics. This send my CPU to 100% and it gets too warm. This in turn send the heatsink paste really hard and it doesn't work so good and the CPU overheats and the thermal cut out send my laptop dead. I am waiting to see is the faster CPU and dual core on the new laptop solves the problem. I paid £120 6 moths ago for a new CPU (when changing the paste would have probably fixed it), I have also have a new power supply, battery and had a keyboard flown in from Japan. On a expensive computer that cost over £700 4 years ago; this is a bit much. I checked out all the bargains at a well known superstore and wouldn't have bought any of them. the netbooks in particular were poor value. The bargain TV at the entrance was plasma - they aren't energy efficient ( don't think it was HD either). 

    Strangely enough I ended up buying from Amazon, they had a reasonable price, service and the right specification for the price. Lots had something missing like a slow CPU, not enough memory or no wireless 'n'. I think one other place was cheaper but their service is suspect and they seem to sell a lot of faulty products. Amazon give good customer service and my credit card had expired so I put it on my debit card and so that was a better supplier for that reason too. The idiot at the credit card company said "no worries". I worry when they don't send me a bill for months and my new card apparently gets lost. Especially, when the bank is in a mess. I may change my card after all. 

    I have a new contactless debit card I shall start using today with the security of pin sentry for online banking - this could be fun... 

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  • Mike10613
    Love rating 600
    Mike10613 said

    I forgot number 7, gambling. Never use a bookie! Online betting exchanges are better value. I just checked a well known one, I did well on the World cup. I didn't make any bets, I took bets from others. This is called laying a bet. You have to be careful. You lay a bet at 3 to 1 for £2 and you get £2 if the bet loses; but pay out £6 if the bet wins (making a loss of £4). I mainly took bets on the world cup on teams getting a clean sheet; when they didn't I won. the one England match I took a bet on the other team getting a clean sheet - as soon as England scored that was impossible and so the punter lost and I made a quick fiver! It is exciting and fun, just like a visit to the casino; but you pay to learn and novices usually lose. 

    I think the odds on winning a prize on the premium bonds used to be 40,000 to one. It was dropped a little lot long ago. So if you have £40,000 invested in them you stand a good chance of winning once a year. It isn't a good investment and as exciting as watching paint dry. 

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  • LateDeveloper
    Love rating 22
    LateDeveloper said

    , number three used to be about savings schemes for unemployed people

    whereby the government paid them an extraordinary amount of interest on

    their savings (although only on small amounts of money).

    Confused the hell out of me for one, and should have been left in.

    There are many people on benefit that have a hard time trying to live off the meagre amount of money paid by any Government, and yet cannot work. Now admitedly there are scroungers who will take advantage, but there are also thieves and rapists within society who do work, should we paint everyone with the same brush as regards those types of individuals too, and say that everyone who works is a thief and a rapist.

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  • eLJay
    Love rating 76
    eLJay said

    Maybe someone could create an investment where you put in money and this is invested to the scheme on behalf of unemployed people and the investor gets a cut of the unemployed persons profit from the tax payer (maybe 10-15%), that way the unemployed people who can't afford the scheme get money that they wouldn't otherwise have got.

    I'm sure unscrupulous money lenders would already be profiting from the scheme, at least this could be done legitimately.

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  • petitemisschief
    Love rating 22
    petitemisschief said

    why all the fuss about unemployed people wanting to save? They still have to buy things like washing machines when they break down or save for such as Christmas for the kids. Some people can live more simply and economically than others so if they can eke out a few pounds in savings then good luck to them

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  • LateDeveloper
    Love rating 22
    LateDeveloper said

    This is the problem I find with lovemoney, it has lots of biased narrow minded individuals, that appear to be able to influence the way things are reported. Gearing a site to workers only is hardly anything to do with loving money and getting benefits from what little people have coming in.

    Maybe the site should be renamed : Love Money for workers on over x amount, since a lot of the products displayed on here need people to have a wage greater than a certain amount.

    Low income workers, pensioners and people who are on benefits of any nature are simply not catered for, with any of these so called bank offers, and yet they are probably the biggest savers of all, since they need to save for a long time, to get a basic living. Good job I am on a high income, otherwise my daughter, who has been ill for some time now, would be suffering from thie same type of biggotory displayed on this site.

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