3 Big Changes To The Savings Protection Scheme

Neil Faulkner
by Lovemoney Staff Neil Faulkner on 08 January 2009  |  Comments 8 comments

The FSA is proposing three major changes to the compensation scheme protecting your savings.

I've been impressed how fast people have been compensated by the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS). Hundreds of thousands of people received money from the scheme last year to restore the savings they lost in failed banks. What's more, most of them received the money inside two months. No technology has been specifically developed to confirm claim eligibility and to make payouts on a mass-scale, which makes this speed even more surprising.

Even so, the financial-services regulator, the Financial Services Authority (FSA), wants to make some improvements to its FSCS. Here are the main three changes it's proposing:

1. Rapid protection when your bank fails

Two months may seem fast for a logistical problem such as this, but it's a long time to worry about when you'll get your money back. Or if you'll get your money back. What's more, it may be that you really need your money immediately, e.g. for a house purchase that you've already agreed to, or because you've recently been made redundant.

In circumstances such as these, two months just isn't soon enough. That's why it's great, and quite astounding, news that the FSA is looking to ensure people get their money within seven days of a bank failing.

A bank collapses and everyone gets their money in a week. Is that possible? If it is, savers will feel more secure, and more savers will be happy to move their money back to the highest-paying savings accounts. People fled these accounts last year, because they are usually the most at risk. Even so, it makes sense to spread your savings across more than one institution.

This big change will require new IT systems at all the banks, which could take years to develop and install. It could also cost them £1bn but, between all the banks, even suffering as they are, that's not a huge amount. We shouldn't see much difference in the cost of financial products as a result; we'll still have difficulty finding cheap ones!

2. A beautiful payout

The FSCS is also consulting on a 'gross payout', which I assure you is less vulgar than it sounds. Under current rules, if you have debts with the same bank, the scheme's administrators usually rule that your savings must be used to offset the debt. This means you only get back the difference after paying off your debts, if there's anything left. The FSA is proposing that you get all your savings back.

You'll still owe the debt to someone (it could be another bank or the government) under the same terms of your existing credit contract. However, it won't mess up your financial plans in the way that seeing all your savings disappear in an immediate, large debt repayment does.

If this change goes ahead, we could firstly feel more confident having our savings and debts at the same institution, and secondly we could be more confident that our money plans won't get knocked about.

3. The Funny Bank's connected to the...?

Another proposal that the FSA has put up for consultation is that banks tell their customers how they are linked to each other, and how this affects our compensation claims.

Some banks are linked together under one banking group. In some cases, each bank still has its own licence with the FSA (such as Abbey and Alliance & Leicester, both part of Santander). This means that if you have savings in either of these banks within the group, they'll be protected separately under the FSCS.

However, in other instances the banks share one licence between them (for example, in the case of Halifax and Bank of Scotland). This means that you don't double the amount of savings compensation by splitting the savings between two of the banks within the group. Read Which Banks Are Connected? for more details.

By forcing banks to make it clear how their inter-relationships work, it should clear up a great deal of confusion and reduce worry.

Whether any of these changes will happen soon enough to help anyone during the current crisis is far from certain, but it'll be reassuring nevertheless, when it happens. That will be useful encouragement during our years of recovery.

I hope all these proposals turn into reality. In the past I've been critical of the FSA's dubious way of caring for the consumer, but at least it recognises that banks will also benefit from making customers feel safer when banks fail. Sorry, I mean if. That really was a sub-conscious slip.

And finally...

The FSA usually squints myopically at small problems because it's not designed to think about minority groups, but rather the whole financial market. However, a small number of people are still awaiting compensation, and some others also don't receive compensation when perhaps they should. If the rules were tweaked a bit, and if great care is given to individuals' cases, we could help these people. Let's not forget them. Perhaps the FSA could work to sort out those issues whilst it waits for the consultation period to end on 6 April.

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Comments (8)

  • Shuggster
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    Shuggster said

    Great news, especially if these changes go through. The USA compensations scheme pays out in 5 days so I believe that FSA should be able to match it. If America can do something, we can do it better!

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  • cbf1000
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    cbf1000 said

    I was one of those with money in Ice Save & Kaupting Edge. It took about 2 months to get my money back but the system worked well.

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  • brodule
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    brodule said

    Now the chairman of the FDIC (US version of FSCS)

    said - if the bank is in trouble, we go in on a Friday, it has new owners on Sat or the cheques are in the post on Monday.

    Are we close to that yet?

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  • jeggers476
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    jeggers476 said

    I have power of attorney of an elderly relative who has an Icesave account. Still waiting for application to be processed, yet alone payment to come through from FSCS! They insisted on using a paper form for dealing with this account and only sent this to me at the end of December, despite repeated phone calls to their helpline.

    What a shame that this group of people, who are likely to be among the most needy, are being left until last. My relative was using the interest to supplement her pension and has had a pretty bleak Christmas as a result of this.

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  • RichardBlundell
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    RichardBlundell said

    > The FSCS is also consulting on a ...

    Is there any way we can join the FSCS "consultation" and say "yes, please do all of these things"?

    I also still reckon that each "bank" or "financial institution" should have to have its own licence so that, if you have N accounts, one in each of N financial institutions, then you would get compensation for each one. That is the clearest and simplest way of ensuring that people don't unwittingly miss out on compensation just because one bank happens to own another.

    Trade under a separate name, have a separate licence. If a bank wants to use just a single licence, it should operate under just a single trading name or "brand".

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  • RichardBlundell
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    RichardBlundell said

    Just found these. Consultation paper (very long - 78 pages) is here:

    http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pubs/cp/cp09_03.pdf

    Response document is here:

    http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Library/Policy/CP/2009/cp09_03_response.shtml

    Looks like one option is indeed to have protection based on trading name, as I suggested, above, although I've not read the details yet.

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  • jheenan1
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    jheenan1 said

    As an Icesave investor I too was very impressed at the intelligent way I received the money and communication that came with it. I am also reluctantly grateful to an otherwise appalling government to receive my money back at all. I invested the maximum limit, at the time, of £70,000 in a joint account thinking that there is no way the Icelandic government could go bust, woops!

    However I strongly believe that all banks should pre fund a scheme with 1% of turnover annually. Any bank that lends more than 95% LTV or 4 x joint salary should pay 5% of turnover

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  • TonyBritten
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    TonyBritten said

    No-one seems to have commented on ING. They 'seem' to be backed by the Dutch Govt; but how? and what would the procedure be for getting your money back. The FSA 'seems' to be happy for ING to rake in UK cash deposits but it's function is to protect UK depositors in case of collapse. ING are not covered by the FSA Comp scheme; no-one seems to much about what they do with the money deposited - could it be that they are using it to pay the inerest to Kaupthing Edge and Heritable customers when they took the banks off Iceland???????????

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