Glimmer Of Hope For Kaupthing Savers

Ed Bowsher
by Lovemoney Staff Ed Bowsher on 15 October 2008  |  Comments 9 comments

Last night's edition of `Channel Four News' contained some good news for savers who have an account with Kaupthing Edge in the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands.

Last week we reported in 'Bad News For Kaupthing's Isle Of Man Customers' that, unlike in the UK, ING hadn't bought Kaupthing's Isle of Man operation. Even worse, Alistair Darling's promise that Kaupthing savers wouldn't lose out didn't apply to the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands.

As a result, Isle of Man savers could only rely on the Manx government's Depositors' Compensation Scheme which will only pay out compensation to a maximum of £50,000 per saver.

In the Channel Islands, there is no protection for UK citizens.

I received an email from one Fool who had put 90% of his life savings, which amounted to £400,000, in a Kaupthing Isle of Man account. Obviously, he was shocked by the news.

However, last night's `Channel Four News' offered a glimmer of hope. Jon Snow interviewed the Icelandic Prime Minister, Geir Harde, who said the following:

`Well, we feel that we should do our best to work together and solve this problem so nobody gets hurt. And I do think to a large extent that the deposits , the assets rather, of both Kaupthing and Landsbanki, will be sufficient to take care of these claims. If we take proper care of these assets and maintain the value, I am sure this can be worked out.'

Jon Snow asked: `So do you think they will get something back?'

Harde:  `I do think so. I think the loan that the UK government provided yesterday to Landsbanki was very helpful. It will enable that bank, Landsbanki to keep up the value of their assets.'

So it's possible that there will be enough money in the Kaupthing pot to pay out to Isle of Man and Channel Islands savers. Let's hope so..

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Comments (9)

  • tizhimi
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    tizhimi said

    I saw this article on Channel 4 news last night too - is the British Government lending them this money as a gesture of "good will" because the Icelandic Government were blaming Gordon Brown for the downfall of their banking system the other week on Channel 4?

    I hope that they are able to pay back the money but is this loan detrimental to our economy given were bailing our own banks out? Can we afford it or is the potential interest too great an opportunity to potentially miss out on? Shouldn’t we sort out home out before we sort out our neighbours or is that not how it works? I’m no economist and nor do I have any savings however for the sake of all of these poor people I hope everyone gets sorted out. Perhaps Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling has a stash of gold bars under his bed and he’s nipping down to cash converters to bail out the Icelandic situation…! Any answers would be much appreciated.

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  • soulsaver1
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    soulsaver1 said

    The UK loan to Iceland (Landsbanki) is for £100m and appears to matching a loan made by the Dutch to the same ends.
    I suspect there is collusion here between governments to save some political face:

    Icelandic premier to Icelandic voters - '.. you'd have got all your savings refunded if I had been allowed to deliver my promises, but that bugger Brown made us comply with EEA law & cough up the UK & Dutch compensation... but I got £200 million out of 'em.' He is not blamed by the electorate and appears their hero.
    Brown appears to flex his muscles, threatens legislation and becomes the UK hero who got the deposits back. The loan gets lost amidst the big figures flying around and then all eyes on unemployment figures instaed. Call me cynical...

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  • Greenrake
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    Greenrake said

    Now at retirement age we have (had)a 100,000 pound bond with the Isle of Man KSF wrapped in a policy with Scottish Equitable invested by our Small Self Administered Pension Scheme.

    It now appears that this type of investment does not benefit from any of the compensation schemes that are being discussed but the loss of this investment has the same profound effect on our retirement position and the money is the result of prudent saving over past years.

    If this is the case then everyone building a pension through an SSAS needs to be aware of the vulnerabilty of their scheme to bank failure, something that was never pointed out to us by our financial advisor.

    But maybe the statement in your article does now offer some hope to our type of saver but very little information appears to be available on the position of our type of investment vehicle.

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  • shankalamb
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    shankalamb said

    Reverting back to what Ing said about all UK investers receiving their money by close of business on the 17th, it seems to me that hardly anyone has received any monies back either by payment into their nominated accounts or back into the Kaupthing accounts. There has got to be an awfull lot of work done in the next 32 hours to honour their statement.I am getting to be somewhat cynical of the whole issue. Lets live in hope.

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  • Kondratieff
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    Kondratieff said

    Greenrake, you are not alone. See the following;

    Kaupthing, Singer and Friedlander Depositors' Action Group
    Ksfiomdepositors.netgenius.co.uk

    Lostyoursavings (Kaupthing, singer and Friedlander (IOM) Ltd
    Lostyoursavings.co.uk

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  • spud77
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    spud77 said

    Should the respective governments of the Isle of Man and the states of Guernsey be holding discussions with the government of Iceland to sort out their own problems. Whilst these two islands are witin the british isles they are not any part of the UK. Both of these island states economies rely heavily in off-shore banking due to their favourable tax status, and the governments their generate a lot of income from banking activities. So I would expect it is in their own interests to sort out their own banking problems rather than relying on the UK government (ask the UK taxpayer).

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  • TMFVertigo
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    TMFVertigo said

    spud77, I understand that the Isle of Man and Guernsey rely on the UK government to negotiate for them in matters such as this, but admittedly it's outside my area of expertise.

    Neil (a Fool writer)

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  • bankdesperation
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    bankdesperation said

    As at 2.50 Still no money has appeared in my appointed account, despite assurances I am feeling very nervous! Does anyone have any faith that these bacs transfers will appear today?

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  • gulliblefool47
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    gulliblefool47 said

    Has anyone else still not received their money? As at 4.50pm today no money has appeared in my link account. The Saturday message board said they had completed ALL transfers to link accounts, except for a few manual transfers they were still working on. The new message was that 95% of transfers have been completed. I spoke to them by phone to ask where my money is, but they do not know, they are also backed up with phone calls for "managers", so obviously, many more than their "five per cent" are still waiting for their money! Are ING getting interest on our accounts that are in the ether?

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