Pensions vs ISAs: how to save for retirement

Alison Hunt
by Lovemoney Staff Alison Hunt on 09 May 2012  |  Comments 14 comments

New stats show that we are turning our backs on pensions, and instead sticking our money in ISAs. Which is the best way to save for retirement?

Pensions vs ISAs: how to save for retirement

Saving for retirement is a tricky subject. On the one hand we know we need to, at least if we wish to avoid eating dust in our golden days.

But on the other hand, we’ve seen financial providers collapse and the economy in turmoil. Who should we trust with our cash?

A few decades ago life was simpler. You started work, joined your company’s pension scheme and stayed put until you retired. If you were lucky, you’d still be taking home around two-thirds of your working salary.

But times have changed, and many of us currently feel we are struggling financially to survive at all, let alone find spare cash to stash away for retirement.

And interestingly, while pensions were our retirement savings vehicle of choice, we may be moving in a different direction.

We’re saving more in ISAs than pensions!

According to the office of National Statistics, 2009/10 was the first tax year in which the amount we saved into ISAs outstripped the amount we put away in company and private pensions.

Why the change?

ISAs are straightforward

ISAs are certainly easier to understand. We can currently invest up to £11,280 into a Stocks and Shares ISA, or up to half of this (£5,640) in the popular Cash ISA.

Contributions are made from your net income, but any money you draw is tax-free. They’re flexible, you can withdraw the cash when you choose and if you die, your ISA can be passed to your descendants (although it will lose its tax-free status).

Compare this to pensions, where contributions are made tax-free, but cash is tied up until retirement. You may then have to use a large portion to buy an annuity, which is taxed at normal income tax rates. And should you die within a few years, it could leave your family with nothing. Ouch.

Of course, it’s not that cut and dried. Indeed, if your employer contributes to your company pension you could find this is still potentially a far better way to save.

But if a retirement ISA is your choice, check out some of the best Cash ISAs on the market:

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Rate

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Bonus/Conditions?

£85,000 compensation limit shared with:

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Includes 2.5% bonus until 31/10/13

 

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AA – Internet Access ISA (Issue 3)

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Coventry BS

3.25% AER

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Post/Branch/

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Includes 12 month, 0.5% bonus. AER guaranteed to be at least 3.25% until 5/4/13.

 

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The Cheshire BS account (which is part of the Nationwide BS group) must be applied for by post. You can make unlimited withdrawals but balances below £1,000 earn just 0.25%.

The AA’s account can be opened online, but you will need a hefty £2,500. Modest savers can turn to the Coventry BS, paying a decent 3.25, although this account is best for long-term savers due to the 60 days' notice required for withdrawals.

Fancy earning 4.25%?

But wiping the floor with the rest is the Flexclusive ISA from Nationwide BS. Paying a healthy 4.25% (including a 2.25% AER bonus until 31 October 2013) on new deposits of £1+ it would top all the tables, if it wasn’t for its rather large catch – it’s only available to Nationwide FlexAccount customers who pay in at least £750 per month.

Although, with consistently high ratings from Defaqto and Which? and free annual European travel cover to boot, you could do worse than switch.

But what about those of us that wish to earn a better rate on our existing ISAs?

Top Cash ISAs (that allow transfers in)

Account

Rate

Min. initial deposit

Access

Bonus/Conditions?

£85,000 compensation limit shared with:

Santander

3.3% AER

£2,500

Online/phone

Includes 2.8% bonus for 12 months

Alliance & Leicester, Bradford & Bingley, Cahoot.

Principality BS – e-ISA (issue 3)

3.1% AER

£1

Online

Includes 1.3% bonus for 12 months

Principality BS

Marks & Spencer

3% AER

£100

Post/Phone

N/A

Marks & Spencer

Source: eMoneyfacts

Santander, in this case, tops the table at 3.3% AER on deposits or transfers of £2.5k+. And Marks & Spencer, while not a market leader, warrants some respect as one of the few accounts whose rate does not include a short lived bonus.

Longer term

But what if you aren’t planning to access the cash for years?

One-year fixed rate

Account

Rate

Min. initial deposit

Access

Closure penalties/conditions

£85,000 compensation limit shared with:

Saga

3.6% AER

£1

Post

Must be over-50.

90 day loss of interest on early withdrawals.

AA, Aviva, Bank of Scotland, Birmingham Midshires, BM Savings, Halifax, Intelligent Finance

Santander

3.5% AER

£2,500

Branch,post, phone

90 day loss of interest on early withdrawals.

Alliance & Leicester, Bradford & Bingley, Cahoot.

Over-50s can snap up Saga’s one-year fixed rate ISA, paying 3.6% AER, while Santander is paying slightly less at 3.5% AER, with no age restrictions.

Two-year fixed rate

Account

Rate

Min. initial deposit

Access

Closure penalties/conditions

£85k compensation limit shared with:

Santander

4% AER

£1

Branch

120 day loss of interest on early withdrawals.

Alliance & Leicester, Bradford & Bingley, Cahoot.

And Santander tops the table at 4%AER with its two-year fixed rate ISA.

As for locking your money away for more than two years - for me, the benefits do not outweigh the uncertainty!

So, ISAs or pensions?

ISAs certainly win on flexibility and I can understand their popularity.

But don’t rule out pensions completely – while they are unnecessarily complicated they can still be a lucrative option (particularly, of course if you can find a lesser-spotted final salary scheme). Plus, they have the advantage that you can’t raid them before the time comes!

More on saving and retirement:

The UK's best stocks and shares ISAs

Auto enrolment: your salary will fall by £300 per year from October

The best supermarket financial products

Tesco: new bonds paying up to 3.7%

How to get higher investment returns with low risk

Is your work pension any good?

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Comments (14)

  • mischka100
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    mischka100 said

    The AA does not share its FSCS compensation with Lloyds.

    It does share it with

    Bank of Scotland

    Birmingham Midshires

    Halifax

    Intelligent Finance

    Saga

    Aviva

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  • ttonytt
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    ttonytt said

    Unless you're on a final salary scheme (lucky you), you work in the public sector and are nearing retirement, or your employer makes very significant contributions (increasingly unlikely), pensions these days are a con, with all the odds stacked in favour of the insurance companies. Stick to ISAs and you know where you are -- and you can use the money how you wish instead of being compelled to buy a poor value annuity.

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  • adb
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    adb said

    One big differerence that the article does not make clear is that:

    -if you pay higher rates of income tax now (40%), it is quite likely that you will not be paying those rates in retirement (20%)

    In more general terms:

    -the choice of ISA or Pension (realistically AVC or SIPP) should be governed by whether you think your marginal rate of tax in retirement will be higher or lower than it is right now.

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  • HappyHacker
    Love rating 18
    HappyHacker said

    But those cash ISAs are not beating inflation. How long will it be before the Government cottons on to the amount of money in ISAs and devises some complex scheme to get more tax from them especially as they have maxed out on tax from private pensions. Get a job as an MP, Judge, or public sector worker if you want a pension, don't bother saving in a pension scheme, if the taxman does not get you the financial sector "masters of the universe" will.

    There is no safe way to make a return on savings at the moment, the Government is too busy trying to get rid of our overdraft and inflating it away appears to be the main way forward. Thus encouraging borrowing rather than saving, assuming you can find anyone to lend you some money. So those of us who have saved in pensions and have savings are being taken for mugs.

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  • sippag
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    sippag said

    Firstly the the writer appears to have an error in wording, she put and in stead of or when mentioning the amount for a cash ISA.

    All the rates mentioned still mean that you are either losing money or standing still. Better than having it in a bog standard current account I suppose.

    With regards to Pensions/ISA. If you cannot envisage saving enough with compounding to have a fund greater than 100k then I think the tax loss is worth taking in the ISA. But you must put the money into a share based portfolio and invest for income and dividend growth. The idea is to have a fund that will compound over the years and that you can draw income without selling stock. It then does not matter if the markets fluctuate as long as the income is not cut. What goes down goes back up over say a thirty year period a number of times a low market is a buying opportunity. You only sell if the dividend stops sell and buy yield.

    I would start with Preference shares, make a choice from four good names, If you have the full allowance buy all four. Average yield at present about 7.5%, year in year out. always reinvest. For indexing buy good quality shares that are paying 4% plus and have a history of increasing dividend each year. I have been investing in PEP's and ISA's since they started and now produces a very reasonable tax free income.

    Keep in mind they could disappear overnight or may be capped in some way.

    If you feel that you could have a greater sum the SIPP is the way forward the compounding effect of the tax saving plus the amount you put can have a considerable effect on the growth, plus you have the 25% tax free lump sum, which you could invest in an ISA if they still exist. Invest as above use the income flow for drawdown. The EU is going to kill off annuities the latest rules are forcing them to build reserves and this can only come from pensioners. I have three SIPP's all with low cost online providers,that is essential as there are lots of sharks out there.Thats one of the reasons why pensions have a poor reputation. The other is that the rules are biased in favour of the annuity companies and this will have to change.

    Trusting that some of this will be helpful.

    Cheers

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  • dc1957
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    dc1957 said

    I am now aged 54 having started work at 15. I have only worked in two Companies in my lifetime, contributing to pension schemes all my career. I left the first Company in 1988. I will have a pension of £3k pa aged 65 in 2023 after 12 years employment. This was after moving it out of the scheme to an Insurance company on advice of a Pensions advisor. £3k is not a lot now, let alone in another 11 years time especially if inflation kicks in - and if I get it. My current company, I joined aged 30 in a Final salary scheme. I should have got 30/60 (half my salary) aged 60. That would have been great. Last year they closed the scheme, I will only only 22/60, not to bad compared to some. Then they moved the scheme increases to CPI from RPI. I am not a mathematician, but I think it will cost me £150k over 20 years (aged 60-80). My scheme deficit dropped £9m at a stroke because of that Government change. I am sat here, with baited breath, hoping inflation doesnt rise, that the Pension scheme doesnt fold, or the Government doesnt introduce further changes that my scheme will jump on the bandwagon with to reduce my pension further. I am not even considering a state pension until I am 70. All this because people told me it was the right thing to do some 35 years ago. Sorry I cannot trust governments and politicians anymore. If I have a pound in my pocket, it is my decision as to what I do with it. If I put it in a pension it is subject to every Government, quango, think tank, or whatever, without me having a chance to change my decision (i.e. I cannot get money out until I reach pension age). I have 3 kids, 22,25 & 27. I cannot tell them to invest in Pensions that are subject to abuse by succesive Governments for the next 40 years. And I am saddened to have to say that.

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  • meldrewreborn
    Love rating 44
    meldrewreborn said

    Several things have happened to make people wary of pensions. Gordon, dearest one, taxed the income in pension funds, Investment returns from Stock markets has been abysmal in the last 12 years, yields on Government bonds and thus annuities have dropped, life expectancy has risen and final salary schemes have had additional burdens placed upon them.

    Suffice to say that if the private sector final salary pension were an animal it would be on the WWF endangered species list - this is because the risks to the company of having these are massive. Public sector schemes are still excellent for the employees - not so much for the taxpayer that takes all the risk. Personal pensions are only worthwhile if you pay higher rate tax now but expect to be a lower rate tax payer in retirement.

    But then there are the rule changes - you may have some 45 years of paying in and 35 years in retirement. Once you contributions are in you're subject to ever changing rules on your fund and how you get money out of it. The only rule that doesn't change is that once money is put in you can only get it out in a form of income at some age of the governments choosing. Its not hard to see why pensions for many are a very sore subject. We need to think instead of the many ways of saving for retirement and like all investment decisions to spread the risk. But the worst thing of all is not to save for retirement, for those who do so just assume that the rest of us will support them in their old age.

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  • gez
    Love rating 8
    gez said

    Ask yourself one question: Can you hold yourself back from 'borrowing' from your ISA before you retire?

    What happens when you want that special holiday, or you want the Ghia instead of the LX, or your wife suggests a new diamond ring for a special anniversary etc etc?

    If you are likely to succomb then suddenly the benefits of a pension far outweigh an ISA, because you know that something will definitely be there!

    You might retire and have years to spend, wishing you had been more frugal with your available savings, but at least you might have some snaps of that 25th anniversary cruise to look at while you put on another cardie to keep the cold at bay!

    Yes, pensions have issues, but boy am I glad that I have been putting my money away where it cannot be touched, and actually, it's level of growth has not been too bad!

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  • nickpike
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    nickpike said

    Gold would be best over 40 years. Why give money to crooks? Pensions have become a big disappointment. My wife's state pension was put back a year, before the general election, so I cannot blame the present bunch, but this was not the deal. In other words, we don't have full control over pensions. Buy gold and you do.

    A leaflet I have advises me to save for retirement as well. That's really good advice when the interest rate is lower than inflation.

    Savings should be TAX FREE. I told my MP this. I advise all others to do the same.

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  • m_doll
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    m_doll said

    To gez: hows about you ask yourself one question?? Which century r u in? Ladies wanting diamond rings ... The boys wanting sports cars ... Well deary, guess what? Some of your 'little Ladies' like fast cars and they don't need little old men, or their pensions, to get them these days ! And when a big sparkly does appeal, we can get those ourselves too!!!! Most women (all mothers) that I know earn more than their husbands/partners and will have a bigger pension pot ... And are organised enough to have some ISAs too. put that with your pipe and slippers and smoke it.

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  • james_e_taylor
    Love rating 12
    james_e_taylor said

    Just to clarify something from the article: if you die before taking out an annuity, your pension is part of your estate and no tax is payable.

    When considering pensions vs ISAs there are three main points to consider: the relative rates of tax you pay when investing and when drawing down, the risk and the charges.

    1) Pensions beat ISAs on tax efficiency when the rate of tax you pay is higher than it will be when you retire. So a 30-something paying 40% tax would probably achieve better tax efficiency by investing in a pension over an ISA. ISAs beat pensions on tax efficiency when the rate of tax you pay is lower than it will be when you withdraw the money from it. For instance, saving up a deposit for a house.

    2) Risk: money in a pension is tied up and politicians like to fiddle with the law around pensions whereas ISAs are much more liquid.

    3) Charges: charges can be very high, particularly for pensions and for long term investments could have a large impact on the overall returns.

    In addition to this one should consider debt. Paying off your debts (mortgage, credit cards etc) tends to be a good thing to do before you save. And given that debt repayment comes out of your net income, I would seriously consider not saving in an ISA whilst I had a mortgage.

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  • yocoxy
    Love rating 132
    yocoxy said

    As always a broad spread of investments is the best bet. In general pensions are protected in bankruptcy, maybe another element to consider.

    Nick, did you also tell your MP that house prices should come down? :-)

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  • mark2012
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    mark2012 said

    The Flexlusive offer from Nationwide that you mention above is no longer available.

    http://www.nationwide.co.uk/search/DisplayArticle.aspx?article=1784

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  • mark2012
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    mark2012 said

    My wife and I are currently (and exceedingly belatedly) coming to terms with the issue of our pensions. I'd very much appreciate your collective advice on what might be best for us.

    First of all, my wife is soon to be 60 and I am 47. We have a joint mortgage of around £75k on a property that is of difficult-to-assess current value (it's a two-bedroom end-of-terrace cottage, valued in 2006 (i.e.before the crash) at around £105,000). We have no other debts whatsoever.

    Secondly, my wife has three pension pots, jointly worth around £65,000. I have two minor pension pots - which I have not contributed to for at least 15 years - worth perhaps 10,000 or so.

    Thirdly, I believe we have to make the decision about my wife's pension in the next few weeks. However, given the scandals in the finance industry as a whole, I do not feel I can trust any IFA to give me totally unbiased advice. And I certainly don't trust my bank to provide unbiased advice either. Perhaps this antipathy is misplaced. But in any event, I'd like to garner a series of opinions from a variety of sources. At least then I might learn to ask the right questions when it comes to finally deciding what to do!

    All help most gratefully received...!

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