Auto enrolment: should saving for a pension be compulsory?

Ed Bowsher
by Lovemoney Staff Ed Bowsher on 16 July 2012  |  Comments 20 comments

Nearly 70% of employers think that staff should be obliged to save for their retirement. Opt-outs would be forbidden.

Auto enrolment: should saving for a pension be compulsory?

In three months’ time, the Government’s new auto-enrolment scheme will start.

Under this scheme, many people will find that pension contributions are automatically deducted from their salaries. That’s unless they decide to opt out of the scheme.

Larger employers will start enrolling staff this October and all smaller employers will be operating the scheme by April 2017 at the latest. Read more in Auto enrolment: your salary will fall by £300 a year from October.

Good idea

I think auto enrolment is a good idea. We’re living longer and the Government is getting poorer; so it makes sense that people should be pushed to save more for their old age.

There’s one problem, however. Some people won’t save – they’ll opt out. The 'best guess' estimate is that the opt-out rate will be something like 25%. In other words, around a quarter of employed workers will say that they don’t want to join their employer’s pension scheme. And on top of that, self-employed workers won’t be enrolled at all.

Admittedly, some ‘opt-outers’ may be making other provision for their retirement. Perhaps they’ll be saving via ISAs or investing in buy-to-let flats.

But still, I’m in no doubt that a big chunk of the working age population won’t be saving for old age at all.

Compulsion

So I was interested to see a report that 70% of employers think staff shouldn’t be allowed to opt out of auto-enrolment schemes. The report is based on a survey by the Chartered Institute of Payroll Professionals.

And employers aren’t alone. The OECD, the global economics organisation, thinks there’s a strong case for compulsion.

So let’s look at the arguments for and against a ban on opting out.

For a ban

- If people don’t save for their retirement, they’re potentially hurting other UK citizens. That’s because the rest of the country will have to pay more tax to support an elderly person with no pension savings. Anyone who doesn’t save for their retirement is arguably a freeloader. 

- Forcing workers to save when they’re relatively young – in their 20s and 30s – means those people will be able to benefit from the miracle of compound interest. In other words, if you put money aside for your old age when you’re 30, your cash has a long time to grow into something more substantial. 

- Forcing people to save at a young age encourages them to start thinking about money early on. 

- Some people will never save for their old age unless you introduce compulsion.

Against a ban

- The UK is supposed to be a free country. A ban on opting out would be a major curb on that freedom. 

- Some people argue that pensions aren’t the best way to save for retirement. Yes, pensions benefit from tax relief, but they often come with high charges, perform poorly and have delivered disappointing incomes for recent retirees. (That’s because annuity rates have tumbled in the last few years.) Shouldn't employees be allowed to choose their savings vehicle and save for their retirement in whatever way they think best?

- You're not just forcing people to save. You're forcing them to lock their money away for up to 40 years. They may not live long enough to benefit from their savings.

- People in their 20s and 30s need to pay off their student debts and save for a deposit. Surely they should be allowed to do that as quickly as possible? 

- Folk with expensive debt at high interest rates should be able to focus on paying down that debt.  

No doubt there are other arguments for either side that I haven’t thought of, but I think I’ve got the main ones.

Personally, I think the arguments for a ban on opting out are strong, but I wouldn’t support a ban just yet. I’m always nervous about restricting the freedom of individuals, and I worry that a significant portion of the population would be driven to unhealthy levels of rage if they were forced to put their money in a savings vehicle that has a mixed track record.

Sadly, many Brits are already deeply cynical about our political system. I wouldn't want to make that situation worse.

So right now, I think it’s best to focus on ensuring that as few people as possible opt out of auto-enrolment. Obviously people like me in the media have a role to play in that process, as do employers. If employees are well-informed about what auto-enrolment involves, I think they’re more likely to stay in the scheme and contribute to their pension.

More incentives

I also think the Government could offer some extra incentives to increase participation.

So maybe under-30s could receive a £50 cheque at the end of every year they contribute to a pension. Or perhaps a small portion of their student debt could be written off if they don’t opt out.

A lottery for all pension savers would be another option – this could be offered to savers of all ages.

But if the opt-out rates prove to be higher than 25%, the Government may have to think again and see if they dare to introduce compulsion.

What do you think about this issue? Let us know in the comments box at the bottom of this article.

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  • rckleung
    Love rating 9
    rckleung said

    Can't really afford it. Already pay through the nose in taxes and NI towards everyone else's pensions... there is nothing left after bills!

    Besides we already contribute towards a pension. We pay 30 years NI for a "full" (lowest value possible) state pension even though most can't get out of paying for around 50 years and getting nothing more in return!

    Also preparing for your (working) retirement will only penalise you, as the government favours the work shy...

    Check out pension credits and other stupid ideas that favour those that don't bother! You get a guaranteed amount which is more than the state pension you have worked for so what is the point in paying NI either!!

    The harder you work the less you get and definitely vice versa!

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  • martbabs
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    martbabs said

    So, we are being forced to give our money to private companies who may or may not, one day, repay you some of your money.

    After my experience of trusting previous employers, Equitable Life, the FSA and politicians to look after 25 years worth of my pension fund, I can tell you first hand, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU!

    I for one will never, ever trust a private investment company with any of my money

    Look after yourself - you're the only one you can trust...

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  • culluding-fool
    Love rating 49
    culluding-fool said

    Having grown up and worked in a country where all pensions are arranged by the employer or are private, there is no way I will drop my government pension for a private one. After a few years of paying in to a couple of pensions, I ended up with nothing. One company didn't contribute my pay deductions into a pension scheme, despite me receiving paperwork to the contrary, and the other pension company went bust without paying out any compensation. This was many years before the bank troubles in UK. I would rather have the option of paying more into the government pension in order to get more out when I retire. I do have two private pensions in UK, one came with a company and I just went with it, the other I took out to top up my pension in my old age. Having found out later that the extra money I pay in to a private pension is going to be deducted from my government pension, I decided to stop my contributions. My last statement for both of them showed that I would have made more by putting the money into a basic savings account back when they used to pay interest.

    If the government is struggling to pay pension then sure the answer is to put up the pension contributions? If they had done that over time then most of us would have hardly noticed it, but they let it get to a crisis.

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  • SevenPillars
    Love rating 70
    SevenPillars said

    The vast majority of workers, via PAYE, already automatically contribute to what is supposed to be their state pension pot via NI. NI is supposed to be the "tax" that gives you your state pension. Now, it may well be that for a variety of reasons it is no longer sufficient to cover people in old age, but it has always been abused by Government who effectively spend the NI take in the present day, it's not invested in anything and never has been. Government has always spent it in the present day and hoped that tax inflation will take care of the future.

    Because the financial system has inflation built into it, ordinary workers who are now living longer are never likely to ever save enough to have a significant pension whatever age they retire. I'm afraid the current pension system is a bit of a con built on false promises and expectations whether it be public or private. After all, one of the main reasons why the retirement age is being raised has less to do with the pension problem in itself, but more to do with the financial fallout of the financial crisis. Government is having to get its own financial house in order because of the commitments it has given to the banking system and attempts to reflate the system.

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  • fenemore
    Love rating 205
    fenemore said

    I think rckleung's comment above has captured the dilemma very well.

    Compulsion already exists via the NI system. Yes, all governments plunder this regularly, but that doesn't devalue the purpose it is supposed to serve. Clearly it isn't sufficient to live on (although many people do), hence this possible compulsion.

    As with all other attempts to get people to take responsibility for their own lives, they know the safety net exists, it is a disincentive. Take the safety net away then you might get somewhere. Tell people they face an old age queueing outside soup kitchens, living without heating, wearing second-hand clothes etc., and mean it!

    We all know that will never happen - so the problem will continue. No government wants to be responsible for impoverishing the elderly.

    Maybe we need to tackle this from the other end. Instead of threats and gloom and doom pictures of old age, concentrate on the benefits of a comfortable retirement.

    Of course this would mean that the accrued pension is ACTUALLY worth something. Current projections are pitiful unless you are able to put away close to 50% of your income - who can afford that?

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  • SevenPillars
    Love rating 70
    SevenPillars said

    Fenemore

    You do realise why advanced free market economies have "safety nets" don't you? Unlike the populist notion that it is there because Government favours the workshy, the reality is that the social and mixed economy has existed since 1945 to essentially stop the masses from becoming revolutionary, whether that be from the left or right.

    So, tell people that they face a future of soup kitchens and 1930's type living and yes, they really are going to buck their ideas up and become pro free market, get up and go for capitalism aren't they! Just like the Germans did in the 1930's. Or the Russians after WW1. Britain even voted Churchill out after 1945 because he wanted to take the country back to the good old pre 1939 economic days and old Labour were offering Keynes and Beveridge.

    Revolution, left or right, has always found its appeal in bad times. Inflict bad times on people with no safety net and don't be surprised if the end result is something nasty.

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  • Basia02a
    Love rating 43
    Basia02a said

    The dire returns on pension funds should surely make anyone with any sense putting money into them unless they are in control

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  • culluding-fool
    Love rating 49
    culluding-fool said

    @fenemore

    "Maybe we need to tackle this from the other end. Instead of threats and gloom and doom pictures of old age, concentrate on the benefits of a comfortable retirement."

    I have always thought that positive thinking produces better results and happier people than negative thinking. Some sunshine would help, too ;-)

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  • LastChip
    Love rating 92
    LastChip said

    Should saving for a pension be compulsory?

    Absolutely never ever, in a million, billion, trillion years!

    All that would be is another form of tax, over which you have no control, buying ultimately one of the poorest financial product ever, if you live long enough to receive it, administered by a bunch of untrustworthy individuals, pilfering your money at every opportunity.

    'nuff said.

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  • grelly
    Love rating 27
    grelly said

    I agree that we should all save harder for retirement. But I have a suggestion:

    Legislate so that no company can charge more than (let's say) 1% of new money and (0.25%) of already invested money p.a.

    It is the fees that are killing pensions (and investment generally for that matter).

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  • kittykatt
    Love rating 12
    kittykatt said

    I think the problem could be that the people who need to save for a pension most are the ones who can afford it least. Soon after I had started work, I enrolled into the superannuation scheme. I was then invited to go to a pensions planning seminar, where the speaker talked about additional contributions and how saving "a little" extra each month would make "A big" difference to the final pension. Back then every penny counted even more than now if thats possible! I asked him for a worked example, saying I could possibly manage to find an extra £20 a month. Long story short, it would have made hardly any difference to the eventual pension, and he couldn't even guarantee its absolute safety. (This was shortly after the problems with Equitable Life, so understandably I was very wary of parting with my hard earned money.) I decided that the £20 a month was worth more to me to spend each month on bills and debt repayment, so didn't make the extra pension payments. I also looked at stakeholder pensions when they first came out, but again the problem was I would be putting away amounts I could ill afford, even though they were very small, and getting a very disappointing return. I remember joking that I would rather save for a prada handbag, as at least then I would know what I would be getting. ( Don't worry, I didn't do that either!!!)

    KittyKatt

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  • AlanThomas
    Love rating 24
    AlanThomas said

    No! a person should not be made to enrol in a pension!

    I am very much against the word 'PENSION' it implies some sort of safety when they are not. Don't get me wrong I stongly recommend that people save for there retirements, but within schemes that work (I have 3 managed ppp)

    It is simply no good taking money of peaple and putting there cash (and the governments cash) into schemes that are not performing

    The Daily Express had a cracking article last week concerning the performance of most managed pension schemes over the last 5 years...very poor returns...which was no suprise as I have all my disclosure statements of 25 years

    Let young people have a choice!

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  • muira
    Love rating 30
    muira said

    do not save in a pension,you will probably never live long enough to see it,

    and if you do, you probably wont remember what it is/was..

    save where you can see it ,touch it,feel it,,well away from men who wear suits to work.,and call themselves experts!!!

    if you have one cash it in at age 55 and take maximum lump sum (they are after taxing that now)..if you have a good pension it will get taxed just as merciless as any income.

    and if you have no spouse/partner and no dependant kids and expire,no family will get a penny..

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  • CuNNaXXa
    Love rating 362
    CuNNaXXa said

    How many insurance companies operate pension schemes? Obviously, a pension scheme is an excellent profit earner, both for the providers and the salesmen who sell these things.

    So, making saving for a pension compulsory will just be one more tax for us to pay, with absolutely no guarantee that there will be any money left when we actually need it. Pensions, like any other investment, can lose value or disappear completely. The only people who don't lose out are the financial advisers who sell these products.

    I have several pension pots that are worthless even though my old employer and I paid quite a considerable sum into them. Where the money has gone is anybodies guess.

    So, employers are in favour of us paying into a pot that may, or may not, exist in years to come. At least it is nice to know that Big Brother is getting more involved in making decisions for us.

    As many have said, we pay NI contributions for this purpose, which is compulsory already. Can we really afford to lose even more money, especially for those of us on or just above minimum wage?

    Taxation is already at a high, without people being taxed even more. I said in another LM article that we work to live, and not the other way around. If you force people to save when they cannot afford to, denying them any small measure of fun, then you turn them into financial slaves.

    Who, in their right mind, wants to earn just enough to pay for basic food, a roof over their head, and simple light and heat, without time out to enjoy what life has to offer. If you force those on minimum wage, or just above, to save for a retirement, you will create a slave state of workers who simply live to work.

    And as for me, well I don't mind losing a quid a week on the Lottery, but I will be buggered if I am going to give £30 a month to some insurance git so that he can get rich while me, and thousands like me, get poorer.

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  • Pamsie
    Love rating 0
    Pamsie said

    @Alan Thomas - But the problem is the young are choosing to ignore savings altogether and then are either relying on the state pension which given the current aging demographic vs the number of workers paying NI is becoming less and less sustainable OR they are coming to retirement savings too late and therefore having to commit too much of their income to make a difference OR they are not reviewing their plans and making the proper changes when appropriate

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  • bengilda
    Love rating 77
    bengilda said

    Until it is accepted that the state (taxpayers) will only give basic pension support to anyone on retirement, regardless of age or circumstances, without exception, and that it is an individual's personal responsibility to make provision for any better standard of living, there are very many who will not save for retirement.

    Saving for a pension is a necessity and must be made compulsory in that those that don't set up their own private pension fund have it done for them without the option.

    However, legislation is needed to prevent charges reducing the savings capital invested and devaluing the planned pension. It must be required that management charges are not deductible from savings invested but only taken as a (regulated) percentage of the funds profits, thus incentivising fund managers to be successful or go unpaid.

    On average, individuals must "save" enough during their working life to pay for their retirement.

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  • CuNNaXXa
    Love rating 362
    CuNNaXXa said

    Just to reiterate, of twenty (yes, 20) years of saving for a pension, my pots currently amount to little or nothing.

    It is all well and good encouraging people to save for their retirement, but there HAS to be a mechanism that ensures that the money invested is there for when they need it (retirement age).

    Remember that current pension pots are no different from any other form of stocks and shares investment, and that the companies invested in can easily go bust, sucking up all investments in the process. Woolworths were with us for practically 100 years, but even they went bust, and that was a brand that everyone knew about.

    Times change, and so do we. What was once stable is now defunct, and what is now stable will become defunct, as new technology and mechanisms take over from old.

    So, how can we protect pension investments from disappearing down some black hole, or disappearing into the back pockets of those charged with managing such funds?

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  • mambach
    Love rating 33
    mambach said

    We're sitting in a sensible persons pension arrangement - a house. Our landlord has 5 jobs - three as a contractee, ergo no chance for one of these pension hoojahs.

    The problem with holding down multiple jobs is that for all of them you're a part timer, and therefore worth approximately nothing.

    I'm sure the move towards yet more public sector workers being contractees has nothing to do with having to give them employee benefits.

    I, on the other hand, will never be able to retire, so why bother saving for something that won't exist. Better to re-invest profit into making my business grow?

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  • Arblaster
    Love rating 41
    Arblaster said

    Once I saw in the Financial Times a cartoon about pensions. There were these huge fat cats [the pension managers] gorging themselves from huge churns of clotted cream. Meanwhile there were scrawny little street moggies [the pensioners] having to make do with those little cartons of UHT milk that you get in trains and in cafeterias. I think that sums it up perfectly.

    Little by little, the government are trying to introduce compulsion to take the pension burden off them and foist it onto the cartoon fat cats. But the tax we are paying will either stay the same or will go up.

    They need to introduce compulsion, because without it the wise will refuse these private pension schemes because they do not want to be rinsed over and over and over again.

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  • Ed Bowsher
    Love rating 79
    Ed Bowsher said

    Thanks for all the comments, interesting.

    I'll try and write an article soon that will answer some of these points in more detail. Basically, it'll be something like 'Why pension saving DOES make sense.'

    But here's a short response now.

    I'm sorry that several commenters have had very poor experiences with pensions. I accept that many pensions have imposed too high charges in the past and investment performance has often been disappointing. And on top of all that, annuity rates are now stunningly low for anyone who wants to retire in 2012/13.

    That said, there are plenty of pensions these days with reasonable charges. And the government's new pension provider - NEST - will be offering reasonable charges. When you pay in money, you'll be hit by a 1.8% charge on that contribution. Then after that, you'll pay a 0.3% annual charge on your pot. Those are pretty attractive charges. And NEST isn't alone. Stakeholder pensions are pretty good, the new pension offering from Now pensions looks good. I could go on.

    Yes, it's true that the stock market hasn't had a great decade, but i suspect it will do reasonably well over the next 20 years - that's what history suggests anyway. If your pension scheme allows you to choose from a range of investment funds, go for the cheap index tracker options that will keep your costs down.

    Once auto-enrolment has been fully rolled out, all employers will be obliged to make matching contributions into employees' pension funds. As long as the charges on a scheme are reasonably low, I think you'd be mad to turn down that opportunity. (For most people anyway.)

    Regards,

    Ed

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