State Pension to jump by £40 a week

John Fitzsimons
by Lovemoney Staff John Fitzsimons on 20 March 2011  |  Comments 51 comments

Good news for pensioners as Government pledges to raise State Pension.

State Pension to jump by £40 a week

It’s not often that we get to use the words ‘pensions’ and ‘good news’ in the same breath, but for once there is a definite ray of hope for those people nearing the end of their working life.

The Government wants to revamp the State Pension, a move long overdue. And it is likely to result in pensioners receiving an extra £40 a week!

We don’t know what we are getting!

First, it’s probably a good idea to review exactly how State Pension works currently, given the shocking number of people who have no idea what they can expect from the State.

A survey by Prudential last month found that a quarter of people planning to retire this year significantly overstated how much the State Pension is worth, believing it to stand at £110 a week. Terrifyingly, 7% of respondents did not have the first idea how much it was worth!

This tip is absolutely vital to know if you want to make the most of your pension pot at retirement.

Given that 20% of this year’s retirees (28% of women and 10% of men) plan to rely entirely on the State Pension to fund their twilight years, it’s scary how little many of us know about what to expect. Perhaps it’s an ostrich situation – we don’t want to think about getting old and retiring, so put off all thoughts of it to the very last moment. This is clearly not a good idea.

The State Pension, as it stands

Currently, the State Pension is worth £97.65 a week for a single or married person who qualifies via their own National Insurance contributions for the 2010/11 tax year. There is a couple’s State Pension, for those couples where one person has not paid enough National Insurance to qualify for the State Pension in their own right, which stands at an additional £58.50 a week.

From this April, there is a ‘triple guarantee’ that the State Pension will rise by the highest of the following:

  • The average percentage increase in wages that year
  • The percentage that the cost of living increases by that year
  • 2.5%

The additional State Pension

However, there is also the additional State Pension to take into consideration. This is money from the Government on top of your usual State Pension, and has gone under all sorts of different names in the past, most notably the State Earnings-Related Pension Scheme.

Unlike the State Pension, which is a flat figure, the additional State Pension you receive can vary according to a number of different factors. It’s an added layer of complexity that really doesn’t do anyone any favours.

The Universal State Pension

Iain Duncan Smith, the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, wants to ditch the complexity and instead introduce a single, flat State Pension that is more generous. A Universal State Pension, essentially.

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He believes that the complexity of the current system means that many people have little idea what they can expect to receive in retirement. Prudential’s research would suggest he is right.

So he wants to ditch the additional State Pension element, and instead see the normal State Pension increased to around £140 a week. This is actually the figure that the National Association of Pension Funds has been campaigning for, for some time, as part of its ‘Foundation Pension’ proposals.

The Government believes that currently the pension world is sending the wrong message when it comes to saving for retirement, as those who do save find those savings clawed back as a result of means-testing. By moving to a flat rate, this would no longer be the case.

A £200,000 personal pension

And while £140 a week may not sound like a king’s ransom, in pension terms it’s a really significant figure.

According to MetLife, a pension of £140 a week is the equivalent of a private pension fund of up to a whopping £217,000!

If a 65-year old retiree wants to protect their income against inflation, a man would need £195,000, while a female would need a pot of £217,000 currently. However, if they were willing to take their chances with inflation, the fund size would only need to be £122,000 for men and £131,000 for women, still a healthy pot size but not quite so large.

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Given that the average pension pot at retirement is currently just £25,000, as we discuss in Five crucial pension facts, the State Pension starts to look an awful lot more generous.

Playing the waiting game

Inevitably, it will take a while before any of this actually happens. It’s likely that there will be a mention of the pension plans in next week’s Budget, with a Green Paper published later this year. However, the reforms are unlikely to actually be in place until 2016.

This is a shame, but it’s worth waiting to ensure that they get the reforms right in practice.

Relying on the State

However, it’s always a good idea to not rely entirely on the State to sort out your pension for you. Be sure to have a read of How to fall in love with your pension again! to remind yourself as to why a pension is so important. And if you fancy taking control of your pension, rather than leaving it to the pension firms, check out How to put together your SIPP.

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Comments (51)

  • liesarenocomfort
    Love rating 134
    liesarenocomfort said

    This is good news, if it does come to pass, because it will presumably be coupled with getting rid of means-tested pension benefits.

    This means we will all then know that any additional savings for a pension we make personally, however modest, will actually benefit us.

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  • luckybug
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    luckybug said

    although this sounds good, will it in fact interfere with the persons income support addition which helps them get housing benefit, council tax benefit, free dental and eyesight check ups? My mum worked all her life, she lost her only son to murder when she was in her late 50s she had a nervous breakdown, lost her home lost everything, and ended up living with me, when we tried to get her a new home because she was in receipt of incapacity benefit, she could not get help with rent or council tax as she was not in receipt of Income support, because she received a measly 35p more than the income support threshold due to her always working, she could not get free dental or eye tests, so will this be the government giving in one hand and taking it back in the other??

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  • seabiscuit
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    seabiscuit said

    Wow! £40 a week in 5years time thats good isn't it.

    Isn't it?

    I wonder what the rate of inflation will be in 5 years time!

    Plus the benefit comments made by Luckybug.

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  • nicky69
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    nicky69 said

    Yes all very nice,but what about the pensioners who have already retired,do we get forgotten and suffer till we go the the grave.

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  • Ellimay
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    Ellimay said

    I am happy to hear to hear that state pensions will go up considerably for all, however, I have retired and my pension (state) is £146 per week right now. This is because I paid all sorts of extras (graduated pension etc) whilst working. Despite being married I paid the single persons stamp throughout my work life so my pension would be higher.

    I would find it unfair if I did not also get a rise because the extra I get I paid for.

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  • trickie1@talktalk.net
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    trickie1@talktalk.net said

    Everybody should know what they are getting.

    You can get a projection telling you what you will get and better explained than any private pension i have got.

    There seems to be a lot of hot air going about, what you get is related to what you put in.

    I can't see a tory gov saying that is wrong.

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  • nickpike
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    nickpike said

    Are we still the lowest paid pension in the EU?

    Does this extra take us out of last place?

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  • meldrewreborn
    Love rating 45
    meldrewreborn said

    There are two issues which this early stages plan is intended to address. The first is that under plans already in place women will, despite getting a better deal than they have in the past, still on average get a state pension that is very much smaller than the average man. The second is that many people end up getting income support in the form of pension credit, which if nothing is done about it, will lead to many not paying in for their own pension because they will in effect be no better off by doing so. So the plan to raise the state pension and in the process get rid of pension credit and at the same time improve the lot of women in old age is to be welcomed. The fact is that this will still result in a massive increase in public expenditure at a time when we all know the savings bank is already very substantially overdrawn, and of course our population is aging too. So where will the extra funding come from? or what other benefits will be cut?

    We all need to take on board that the days of putting all these wonderful spending promises on the never never (as under the last government) have well and truly gone. So, other benefits cut or taxes to rise- or both?

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  • DP130132
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    DP130132 said

    "SURVEY BY PRUDENTIAL" I think they should do a little survey in their own house!!!

    My Private pension, and I am sure that of many others who trusted this name, was REDUCED by 5% last year. My monthly payments will be reduced from 1st April this year by appporximately, a further 8%.

    Yes, read the article "How to fall in love with your pension, etc., ...." and particularly the COMMENTS relating to the article

    Never put your money where you have no control. The Government review of Annuities and pensions is long, long, long waited and overdue. The proposed State pension of £140 a week, will not bring UK on a par with several EU countries.

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  • retirednlovinit
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    retirednlovinit said

    I've been particularly interested in this as I am 65 and retired on a State Earnings Related Pension which means I get considerably more than the £140 per week. I asked my MP to confirm my pension will not be reduced and indeed, received a letter from Steve Webb MP, minister of state for pensions, who confirmed that my pension will not be reduced. As with all the other changes for people not yet retired and particularly women (of which I am one!) I am relieved to have put all the concerns behind me. I am hopeful to reach 2016 in order to receive even more!

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  • jt
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    jt said

    While we should be grateful for whatever amount, it is very disappointing to give the money all back. The council tax (rates) have doubled, the car tax has doubled, similarly the tv licence, water, etc. etc.

    I think it would be far more beneficial to exempt us oldies from such expenses - such as dentist bills (doubled) bus and train fares (doubled) etc. etc.

    A simple credit card sized, free "pass" for bill exemption would be more useful than any few extra pounds - which rapidly become insufficient, and get clawed back anyway!

    Such a "pension pass" could be issued automatically upon reaching the correct age (as decided) and free us all, mentally, from worrying about finding the money for the next bill. (and probably payable to the government anyway, council tax, etc..)

    e.g. To have a tooth out will set you back £170+ and absorb all your pension for more than a week. Couple this with the wife's teeth etc, and the pension is insufficient.

    How much better it would be not to have to find this money, naturally accompanied with the pain and loss at the same time.

    May I ask Mr Iain Duncan Smith to seriously consider a "pension pass." (for an exemption from bills) It would be far easier, and cheaper to administer. Servicing this scheme could cost a fraction of the current pension payments. Just a thought.

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  • nfa987
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    nfa987 said

    Am I wrong in believing that if you reach retirement BEFORE the date the Government fixes for the new "flat rate" of £140, then your pension will be on the current rate?

    This seems grossly unfair, especially to those of us who have spent our entire working lives believing that one had to have 44 "qualifying years" for a full State pension, and have indeed paid those contributions, wheras AFTER the new date, people will only need 30 qualifying years for the new, higher rate.

    Hopefully I am wrong. But can anyone enlighten me on this? If I am right, can anyone suggest a "pressure group" worth joining to fight this inequitable situation?

    Thanks to anyone who can help

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  • charles125
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    charles125 said

    Some very real problems here.

    £40 extra 5 years on is likely to be worth quite a lot less than it is now.

    People hoping to rely on the additional 'earned-income' based element might find themselves very considerably worse-off on the single flat-rate state pension.

    And what happens to people already receiving the additional state pension in the long term? - there's no guarantee that this won't be stopped sometime hence, once the single flat rate pension is introduced.

    I am particularly concerned as I reach 65 in 2016, and what happens will depend on when exactly in 2016 the change is made. I would be entitled to considerably more than the £140 if I still (just!) manage to get the additional state pension. Otherwise I'll get much less on the single flat rate pension. I might also have to wait an extra year to get ANY state pension depending on when the change to 66 goes through which could cost me thousands of pounds. (rather a lot of £40's about 50 months worth to be precise!)

    The biggest issue is that by comparison with European state pensions, even at the £140 rate, we'll still be FAR WORSE OFF even than pensioners in Ireland, who NOW in 2011 get £126.32 a week MINIMUM state pension, compared to our UK £97.65

    Incidentally, worst of all, this flat-rate pension will only apply to NEW pensioners. Present pensioners on the £97.65 rate will stay on this rate, albeit protected from inflation, except that for pensioners the RPI price index often bears little comparison to a basic pensioner's lifestyle, where for instance a can of Heinz soup now costs about 85p or more for ONE can of soup.

    How some of these pensioners manage at all I simply just don't know. EXTREME POVERTY is the best description for most United Kingdom basic state pension only pensioners.

    Please keep complaining to your AM, MP and the Government about how LOW our state pension is compared to other countries in the EEC.

    Or is this ? a discreet plan to get as many pensioners as possible to emigrate to other EEC countries where they'd probably get substantially more pension! - except that they'd most likely be unable to afford the train/coach/ferry fare in the first place!!!!

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  • ticktock
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    ticktock said

    Thanks but, no thanks. I get over £140 per week now, which is after working 51 years of my life. I've paid tax & NI for all that time and have EARNED my pension.

    It seems they want to only pay one pension without all the extra parts we have paid in for, or maybe I should say; had the money stopped from my pay packet by law.

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  • petrovich
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    petrovich said

    Seeing as women live much longer and presently retire earlier than men, would it not be fairer that they pay more NI contributions whilst working?

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  • polokingkeith
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    polokingkeith said

    "There is a couple’s State Pension, for those couples where one person has not paid enough National Insurance to qualify for the State Pension in their own right, which stands at an additional £58.50 a week."

    The statement quoted above is incorrect there is no "Couples State Pension".

    To receive an extra amount of State Pension "Both need to be of pensionable age" and to receive the full £58.50 one of the couple will need to be on a full 100% cat A State Pension. Example John Smith with only 20 qualifying years on £50 per week basic State Pension his wife has never worked and has no Pension of her own, would only be able to claim 60% of her spouse's basic State Pension 60% of £50=£30. Any one younger than State Pension age would get nothing extra as the Adult dependancy increase ceased in 04/2010. Please get facts correct.

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  • tiredmumof3
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    tiredmumof3 said

    Am delighted at the plans to simplify pensions. As a middle-aged part-time worker I often

    wonder if there are genuinely poor pensioners out there. Any of the penioners I look after seem to have to stash their cash at home in order to hide it from the taxman/council taxman/pensions credits people, so as not to lose their abundance of benefits. Most elderly people seem to qualify for attendance allowance/cold weather payments/disability

    living allowance... am I forgetting anything else ??

    Once they have £8000 in the bank they cant deposit anymore and it seems the norm to

    hide it away... me and my husband both work and have 3 school age kids with no additional benefits and have no savings and definitely struggle to pay our bills even with

    a slightly above average income ... I understand many pensioners have worked hard all

    their lives but those that have never worked seem to do extremely well off the state. I am

    sure I stand to be corrected.

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  • charles125
    Love rating 53
    charles125 said

    As always there are the grouchers who decry that there even is poverty. Try going to one of the poorer parts of the country where many pensioners eek out a very bare living, often not able to afford carpets and keeping curtains closed all day to keep what little heat there is in. Some carry a light bulb from room to room as they CANNOT even afford to light more than one room/corridor at a time.

    So, YES there are many EXTREMELY poor pensioners who barely afford to live without starving and MOST have NO CASH hidden away.

    I simply find it desperately hard to believe that some better-off people are so inconsiderate of others in the UK of the HUGELY less well off. And the USA, the world's richest country also has some of the world's POOREST people. The UK is not much better off in this respect and our UK basic pension is LESS than that in many EU countries with much lower living costs, for instance people in Spain need MUCH less heating throughout most of the winter.

    I repeat we have MILLIONS of EXTREMELY poor pensioners in the UK, many of whom cannot even afford to go out, which is why some people don't see them or recognise that THERE IS a HUGE problem in the UK amongst those subsisting (I won't even dare say trying to scrape a living- it's not even that) on just basic state pension.

    This makes me extremely CROSS, and I am thankful that at least I can eat and heat the house a little, unlike 5 MILLION people across the UK, many of whom are pensioners - who worked as hard if not harder than the rest of us, AND fought in at least one world war for Britain. Words of thanks will not feed them and keep their houses modestly warm.....

    Words almost fail me about some better off people who have no time, no sympathy nor ANY pity for the POOR in the UK.

    Don't some people have a CONSCIENCE any more?

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  • AFlondon
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    AFlondon said

    According to my latest pension forecast, I would get an estimated £168 per week, so a flat-rate pension of £140 would be a reduction. The government has still not made a clear statement that those of us who have earned a higher entitlement would retain it.

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  • bosun34
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    bosun34 said

    The goalposts were moved re. state retirement age for women so all my financial projections were blown out of the water and now I have to work until I am 64 (at the moment, unless they change it again!). NOW they are messing about again and according to my last online projection, if this flat £140/week goes ahead, I will LOSE around £60/week. This flat £140/week is fine for those who would ordinarily receive less, but let's keep the higher rate for those who have earned it.

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  • wally144
    Love rating 26
    wally144 said

    It is about time that pension laws in this country were looked at again. NOT by government, but by an independent body. People need to understand that THEY are responsible for their old age provision.

    A good example of how it might work is the system used in Singapore (where there are both rich and poor people.) During your working life, 25% of your gross income is deducted, and a portion of this is for taxes, and a portion goes into an individual provident account. This is independently administered, and the system is audited annually for the people, so that they can see what is happening. Now this money can be accessed for three specific reasons: 1. At retirement, where the remaining amount is used to buy an annuity; 2. The owner can borrow money for a down payment on a house/apartment - but must pay it back with interest (the interest belongs to the account, so boosts the terminal value); 3. To pay for hospital bills. This may seem a little harsh, however, the patient gets to see what a hospital stay actually costs, and generally tends to take better care of him/herself. (You don't see many obese people in Singapore.)

    Education is free, right through to university.

    The biggest problem in this country, is that most people make a too small, or no provision for their old age, and so exist on very little when they retire. Those that do save are penalised, sometimes severely. It is time that people realised that the government(we) cannot afford to bail out those who act irresponsibly.

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  • onthecomputer
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    onthecomputer said

    Again another unfair system, I was to receive more and at age 60.. not i have to wait till 65 and get less - makes me feel ill. Also my son wont get EMA next year.. so nothing for him in 2012 but when he enters uni 2012 he will have to pay 9000 a year - madness - certainly got me my the short and curlies...

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  • shikisha
    Love rating 3
    shikisha said

    Some facts:

    1998-2010

    Virtually all London Boroughs' council tax increased by 97%

    State pension rose by 57%.

    Many public sector workers in London have over £5000 added to their salary as London Weighting. Some firemen live abroad and commute.but still receive London Weighting.

    Pensioners also living in London get nothing extra, although their taxes go to pay for the London Weighting.

    On reaching the age of 80 the pension is increased by 25p a week. Yes - 25p a week.

    We have the lowest pension in the developed world, and in London the highest cost of living in Europe, and in most of the world - Japan was ahead of us. Cost of living in the US is lower

    I needed work to do a simple repair on a boiler; labour charge quoted as £120 an hour plus VAT making £144 an hour. Pension is £97.65 a week.

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  • cockneybird
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    cockneybird said

    Anyoone know what happens, if because you are in receipt of additoinal state pension, your pension is already more than £140. Will you continue to receive moe or be capped at £140.

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  • denyson4
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    denyson4 said

    Its seems to me that if they do change as suggested to a flat rate pension and you have a private pension but have not contracted out of s-e-r-p-s it would be wise to have a look at doing so as when the flat rate pension comes in then your contributions will have been lost if they are not taken in to consideration to give an increase above the flat rate pension.

    Those who have contracted out and received the payments into there private schemes will have gained the money into their schemes and may get a better private pension.

    I have a small personal pension still paying into it but have not opted out of s-e-r-p-s hoping for a better state pension so I am somewhat worried now and it may be better to opt out.

    Because if everyone gets a £140 flat rate pension and would be on a higher amount with s-e-r-p-s then it lose time for them if s-e-r-p-s is not taken into consideration.

    Any money paid into s-e-r-p-s would be lost and if you had not paid s-e-r-p-s at all it would make no difference to the flat rate so I can see that the exchequer would be quids in.

    Get my drift?

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  • cockneybird
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    cockneybird said

    Get your drift but I am already retired and in receipt of the additional state pension to which I contriuted! It's wrong if I now lose something in the order of £60 a week!

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  • stacky
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    stacky said

    why does it take all that time to increase the pensions,when they can increase all the other bills in a manner of weeks or months if it bring in more money for their coffers,it seems to go all there way all the time...........about time they realised that oap.s have to take on work to live. like myself at nearly 73 years old,and still waiting to retire,it will read on my gravestone (HEAR LIES A MAN WHO NEVER RETIRED)

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  • kitwedigger
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    kitwedigger said

    It is good news for future pensioners, maybe, not for current pensioners.

    The missus worked all her life and gets £65 from the state plus her other contributed amount.

    Her friend worked 6 years and gets about £60, topped up from her husbands contributions.

    Because she, my wife, gets over £60, she can get nothing from my contributions, and she also lost out when a Methodist school in the Carribbean she worked at, failed to pay her stamp like they promised.

    To add injury to the insult the toted £140 will only be available to new claimants.

    I suppose they hope we'll be dead by the time they bring it in, so that's fair, enough.

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  • denyson4
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    denyson4 said

    All those who are worried and already in possession of a state pension it is not going to affect you. Only for new claimants and it will take a good few years to get set up. So if you are in possession of a state pension you are going to continue with what you have with increases as and when.

    For those who are retiring in the next few years and onwards and more for the onwards it seems its time to get a pension forecast and see where you stand.

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  • baldilocks247
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    baldilocks247 said

    Charles 125 is wrong if he thinks that people in Spain are so lucky as to not need heating - houses here are not designed for the cold of winter but for the heat of summer. I have had frostbite twice in my life once was in the terrible winter of 1963, the second time was her in Spain in the winter of 2008/9.

    I had to top up my pension contributions (after an employer failed to pay them in) to a full 44 years, now they only have to pay in for 30 years. Unless of course they are members of parliament who only have to do a couple of years and then get a full occupational pension.

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  • Deepmore
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    Deepmore said

    Left school at 15 paid have paid NI for 47 years and still paying, my last projected pension was £177 per week including SERPS, looks like hard working people are going to get screwed again. I also paid in to a private pension (save for your retirement they kept telling us) which will also be taxed. If I had my time again I would spend the lot and stuff it.

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  • trickie1@talktalk.net
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    trickie1@talktalk.net said

    Having the state pension and a private one. I just love my State Pension.

    If the state pension is in a mess the Private Pension Sector is an unquantifiable disaster i wouldn't wish on anyone.

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  • themikel47
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    themikel47 said

    As usual in this country it doesn't pay to be a concientious hard working citizen. The less you do the more rewards you get. My recent pension forcast was for £192 so it looks as though I will lose £52 a week courtesy of this wonderful government. I also grafted to accumulate 44 qualifying years for a full pension. I understand the government has recently reduced this to 30 years. No wonder the attitude and work ethic in this country is so grim.

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  • Savvy chic
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    Savvy chic said

    Yes, my friend told me that the new flat rate pension - which is higher than I currently get, having retired last May - will not affect me, as an existing Pensioner. Seems to be so.

    Also learned from the Shadow Chancellor's Budget Response on TV last night that pensioners would not get the higher personal tax allowance which is to come in next year. I think this is outrageous! I am being taxed on my both of my previously Company Pensions which were converted to Annuities when I retired, after having done Section 32 Buy-outs with both of them several years before, at the single person's personal tax allowance so why can't I get the increase in it when it comes? I don't know whether or not I am getting the £1k increase in it which came in recently.

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  • wh666-666
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    wh666-666 said

    Ughhh pensioners, what greedy pigs.

    It's an insult the taxpayer has to pay for these waste of spaces to live, while the younger taxpayer who is historically one of the highest taxed bands within history, has to pay for pensions, yet is denied a state pension when they retire.

    God I hate old people.

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  • wh666-666
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    wh666-666 said

    "" petrovich said

    Seeing as women live much longer and presently retire earlier than men, would it not be fairer that they pay more NI contributions whilst working? ""

    You're absolutely right, as indicated by the two "love" marks ...

    The problem is our society is extremely sexist and racist. Hence, white men are the highest taxed to lowest benefited ratio individuals in society.

    It would be fair to get women to pay more NI, It would be fair raise Personal allowance on tax to minimum wage so people actually see more benefit in working then going on the dole, It would be fair to limit generous welfare packages.

    However this won’t ever happen. Anyone that loves Britain and has any common sense is branded a fascist by liberal retards. Any politician suggesting any of the above would be branded woman hater, snob and spiteful of lower class. Even though the person is saying things that are common sense, they won’t be seen as such.

    Look at the propaganda behind the BNP and how they are victimised by the liberals. Any politician saying in plain language that we need to stop granting asylum to everyone and control immigration like any other country does, is branded a racist.

    If people want to pick apart the BNP, read their manifesto and do it on something logical, such as green power. One reason why I can’t support such a party in the EU is because they have the idiotic notion that windmills will save us all.

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  • Conned_again
    Love rating 0
    Conned_again said

    Ah, pension changes again. No doubt we will not be better off but worse off - again.

    I made the mistake when I was younger of planning for retirement. I contracted out of SERPS and took a private final salary pension instead. I built up 6 years of armed forces pension, then got 12 years worth of civil service pension and will get my state pension. Will I be better off? NO! I will be taxed to the hilt. Will get no housing benefit or any other benefits.

    At the same time, by getting a civil service pension which I was automatically enlisted into it caused payments into my private pension to cease! Why? Because both are contracted out schemes and the civil service wouldn't let me contract out of its pension so that I could make the payments into my private pension instead via voluntary top ups.

    Net result? messed up pensions, taxed to the hilt and no other benefits. Thank you Britain.

    I will be leaving this country in a few years. I will take my pensions early (apart from army and state pensions) retire to Spain where I bought a small holding to help with retirement living costs.

    And no Charles125, it costs just as much to heat your Spanish home in winter - if not more, Certainly where I will be because it SNOWS in Spain in winter believe it or not and much more than it does in England! At least in the North. Not everybody heads for the Costa del Crime.

    I simply will not be able to afford to live in this country so will move to where it is at least nicer to live, warmer MOST of the year, where I will have no council tax, no electric bills (solar electricity and hot water) enough land to grow my own food and meat, no water bills (delivered in a tanker) and get free health care just like here in the UK. Who's going to get the benefit of my pension - The Spanish state. Stuff Britain after they treat pensioners like they do. I for one am voting with my feet.

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  • maggieliz
    Love rating 0
    maggieliz said

    Current pensioners will NOT get £140 a week.

    ''The next generation of pensioners'' may get £140 but the question is WHICH YEAR ?

    And winter fuel payments for pensioners this year will be LESS THAN last year --

    £200 for over 60s and £300 for over 80s.

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  • montyatbarclay
    Love rating 0
    montyatbarclay said

    Did 10 years in Royal Navy, 1960 - 1970, they deducted cash for a pension but if you did not do 22 years then you did not get any pension at all. What happened to the pension money they deducted from us ?? Could do with the little extra now that I have retired but do not suppose I will ever see any of it.

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  • grainyme
    Love rating 0
    grainyme said

    I'm trying to work out the purpose and timing of the article. Us pensioners have recently received notification of the £<5 increase for the coming year, so we know it isn't £40. George has also informed us that the £40 doesn't apply to us existing pensioners. One thing I have learned during my 77 years is that future promises from Government are always surrounded by conditions. The only improvements you can depend on are those 'present' you get into your hand. Can low to middle income Senior Citizens who worked and contributed all their lives really feel Gov says " Well done good and faithful servants".

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  • Ben Hall
    Love rating 51
    Ben Hall said

    Hmmm...well, if you save up, you work hard, you plan ahead for your old age you'll get bumped big-time

    My wife and I have reared more than four children, financed them through private schools and universities and.... foolishly....scrimped and saved against the day when we'd be too old to work.. All this as a single earner on a middling salary. Lots of overtime, working weekends, and part time jobs

    We shouldn't have bothered! Our next door neighbour of 35 years has spent the lot, put his pigeon pair of children through state schools, and never bothered about 'varsities.

    He and his wife are picking up much more in state benefits in their old age than we are. I guess we've paid for his pension out of our taxes.

    I'm not envious. I congratulate him on being smart, and kick myself for being so stupid. We could have had a comfortable old age, too, if we hadn't been so damned socially responsible

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  • oldhenry
    Love rating 267
    oldhenry said

    I am a cynic and think that wharever the government are planning it will be to save them money. So no doubt they have worked out that by removing the endless addons the flat rate will be still less and the government will save. The country is pretty well bust and the pensioners are an embarassment to the government especially as there are more and more as they live longer. They originally planned on pensioners dying after a couple of years on pensions you know, not 30 years later!!

    Anyway the 40% tax band will be at pension level in a few years so they will have a lot of it back starightaway!

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  • Rachel11
    Love rating 2
    Rachel11 said

    Yes - our society is sexist because women tend to live longer than men wh666-666 and Petrovich. Are you listening to yourselves or has all your common sense gone out of the window?

    And as an accountant I can tell you all the pension payments I see tend to be exceeding low for women compared to men so you can't be being that badly discriminated against. Thank goodness most of the comments don't follow your erroneous chip on the shoulder views.

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  • Ken Weston
    Love rating 0
    Ken Weston said

    State Pension to rise by £40 a week? Of course it will; and without any changes in the rules or law. Simple rules of inflation will do that and almost certainly within five years. Just look at this year's increase and it will give you some idea of just how much the pension could rise as a matter of course.

    Another conjuring trick by politicians (on a basic rate of well over £1,000 a week)?

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  • MK22
    Love rating 142
    MK22 said

    As a pensioner I get truly p****d off by these young oiks who think that they have been hard done by by us. Very yew youngsters today have any idea what hard work is like, what it is like to live with rationing, no central heating, outside toilets, etc, etc, etc. Neither do they understand the concept that to get good benefits you need to be paid less. So I have a (not very large) pension I can afford to live on. Fortunate? Me? NO way, I deserve it!

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  • makzym
    Love rating 0
    makzym said

    My Wife of 64 Has worked in a well known supermarket for tha 31 years, It was only last year when she found out that she is only entitled to 0.44p a week pension ( paid anually). After making enquiries the reason being:- she did not pay a full stamp, the supermarket assumed at the time this is what my wife wanted to pay.

    Anyhow, my wife just recieved a letter from DWP total amount £24.44p for her pension for the year, BUT!!! the Government has taken £24.00 off for tax leaving my wife with 0.44p for her pesion for the year. Is they something we don't know ?

    The Government do not care about anybody or anything the only concern is how to save money and to make sure that themselves are well looked after. (Robin Hood springs to mind )

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  • Yorkstyke
    Love rating 89
    Yorkstyke said

    Well I'm really pleased to know that 14 years of my NI contributions, (about £17k), out of a total of 44 years contributions, will help towards this increase and enable those with 30 years contributions to receive a full pension.

    That's the end of my charitable giving, charity begins at home.

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  • wh666-666
    Love rating 4
    wh666-666 said

    Nobody has a chip on their shoulder Rachel. At least we aren't ignorant like you. Pensions is just one example, but my comment about society favouring women is truthful, sorry you can't admit it. Look at legal and financial aspects to society and you will see women are favoured over men. As for pensions, when we are talking about weekly amounts rather than a lump payment in private pensions, how is it fair to pay one gender more per week.

    MK22, nobody is debating you didn't work hard, or in your youth, living conditions were harsher. However spare a thought for younger generations.

    The reason they feel irked is because you can survive (food/heat) on a state pension and get a plethora of other benefits such as mobility, warm front, etc. Then the elderly STILL moan about how hard done by they are, when some young people cant afford heat or proper food. After the taxes we pay and being punished by deciding to work, rather than scrounging benefits, we feel like mugs. Then to top it all off, we are repeatedly told that state pensions may not even be possible when me mature to retirement age.

    How do you expect younger generations to act towards you when you tell them you're entitled to a life of luxury, when no matter how hard they work, they end up in debt and can't afford the essentials.

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  • Vicc
    Love rating 4
    Vicc said

    Too many people on these threads talk about working hard and saving for your retirement which is perfectly justifiable if you are in a job that pays you enough to actually save!

    For a vast number of people, it is a matter of managing to pay the bills, keep the car going so they can use it for work (not everywhere has even half-way decent public transport), ensure the children understand that they can't have everything: but children grow and need new shoes all too frequently - clothes can be 2nd hand but second hand shoes are not good for growing feet - oh and they eat. And for all those who reckon we shouldn't have children: where is the next generation of workers going to come from? Overseas? That should please those who are rabidly agin immigration but also, more seriously, deprives other countries of those workers' skills.

    Whilst a number of families may "mismanage" their money in the eyes of the sanctimonious, far from everyone does. We have been in the "have it all, have it now" culture since the late 1980s at the very least and cheap credit has been pushed at us for well over 25 years. It's hard not to take advantage of that if you need furniture to move into unfurnished housing from furnished; to buy clothes so you can look decent for job interviews and so on.

    And despite many more people owning their own homes, many older (and younger!) people do not, never having had the income to do this or, perhaps, the wish to do this.

    The politics of envy is certainly demonstrated on these threads. All these uncharitable thoughts are not worthy of you all. Stop, think again and realise that not everyone is able to do what you have done. Circumstances change.

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  • triciakat
    Love rating 0
    triciakat said

    question . the proposed universal pension.. will it apply to all pensioners ? i am due to retire havng paid full contribtions before the proposed increase . Will i receive the increase as an existing pensioner or will there be a 2 tier system?

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  • jennysue19
    Love rating 5
    jennysue19 said

    I currently receive State Pension, second state pension and Pension credits which total over £200 a week including help with housing costs and discounted council tax. I worked for that second pension money in the same way as if I had put it into a private scheme and reducing it to a flat rate of £140 would be completely unfair and devastating to my future security and standard of living. I'm planning on selling my house anyway and will have to give a proportion of the equity to an ex partner (an outrage since he has not contributed to the mortgage for over 6 years) and may not have enough to buy a smaller property outright, condemning me to rent for the rest of my life.

    I cannot imagine that this legislation could possibly succeed for those already in receipt of second pensions. It is just one more attack on the old, the disabled and the sick for which this Government has become famous. I trusted the Liberal part of the Coalition to tone down the excesses of a Conservative party intent on destroying state welfare benefits and penalizing people who cannot work through no fault of their own. I am very disappointed in Nick Clegg and his party's Cabinet members.

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