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Five property rental myths uncovered

Robert Powell
by Lovemoney Staff Robert Powell on 08 November 2010  |  Comments 18 comments

Robert Powell reveals the 5 biggest myths that could see you end up at war with your landlord.

Rob Powell hits the streets to get your views on these property myths

The financial downturn has meant that more of us are renting properties than ever before.  The typical age of an unassisted first time buyer is now 37 – and a majority of mortgage lenders won’t even look at buyers who are younger than 30.

So with landlords and letting agencies rubbing their hands at the prospect of a booming rental market, how much do we really know about renting property?

I’ve taken to the streets to find out.

Myth 1: A landlord can give you a month’s notice to leave a property.

Most of the people we interviewed thought the landlord could kick you out within a month – one person even thought a tenant could be booted out in a fortnight.

But whilst you may pay rent by the month, a landlord has to give you at least two months notice if he wants to kick you out.

They do this by issuing a Section 21 which gives the tenants two months notice before they are evicted.

But for a landlord to do this you must have an Assured Shorthold Tenancy, the deposit must be properly protected and any fixed term agreements must have ended.

Myth 2: A landlord can enter the property whenever he likes.

A lot of the people we interviewed were clued up about this widely-believed myth – but one person thought the landlord could enter the property if they were owed money.

In fact it’s actually illegal for a landlord to enter their property without prior permission from the tenant.

But the landlord does have the right to reasonable access to carry out repairs that they are responsible for– but even then, they still needs to check with the tenant at least 24 hours in advance.

Myth 3: A landlord can chuck you out if you don’t pay the rent.

One of the people we interviewed thought that this was the case, but most knew that they had more rights. As even if you are the tenant from hell, a landlord cannot legally chuck you out unless he has gone through the courts.

If a landlord decides to evict you before the end of a fixed term contract he has to seek a court order to repossess the property, which normally takes four to five months.

If you haven’t signed a fixed term contract it will still take a landlord 2 months to get hold of a Section 21 possession order.

Myth 4: The landlord decides whether or not you get your deposit back.

A majority of the people we interviewed knew that some sort of third party were involved in holding the deposit, but still thought the landlord had a greater say in whether you get any money back.

Of course the landlord has a say in whether you get your deposit back or not, but so do you.

Since 2007 it’s been a legal requirement for all deposits paid under Assured Shorthold Tenancies to be held and protected by a third party.

The landlord has to protect your deposit within 14 days and it’s the third party organisation that decides how much you get back.

Myth 5: A landlord can set bailiffs on you if you owe him or her money.

A lot of people thought that if you go without paying rent for a long time the landlord can contact a third party with a view to taking your property.

This is where commercial and residential tenancy law differs – as if a tenant in a commercial let falls behind with their rent, the landlord can instruct bailiffs to take goods from the premises to hold or sell.

But fear not, with residential lets the landlord has no such privilege. So however far behind you get paying rent, you’re TV and hair straighteners will be safe.

Really the most important things to remember when taking out any tenancy is to ensure the landlord protects your deposit properly, you read and sign a tenancy agreement and complete inventory and you take some pictures of the properties condition when moving in.

Happy property hunting!

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  • IPINLive
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    IPINLive said Report on 08 November 2010  |  Love thisLove  0 loves
  • hmadine
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    hmadine said

    I am perturbed by the tone of the article - ie landlord could chuck you out/bring in the baliffs.

    Perhaps the last paragraph should have also stated the tenant's responsibility to honour their contract by paying their rent on time and to take care of the property they are living in.

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  • Rachel Perry
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    Rachel Perry said

    Yeah - great job in letting people know how to scam their landlords... maybe my last tenant helped you write this article.. she seemed to know all the rules and how the law is on the side of the tenant.. so much so.. my property got repossessed through her non payment on rent and then living there "rent" free whilst it went through the correct legal channels to get her out.. Yes tenants.. there IS such a thing as a free lunch.. all us gullible unsuspecting landlords that HAVE to put up with this cr*p.

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  • julesryman
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    julesryman said

    As a landlord I agree wholeheartedly with hmadine and Rachel Perry. There is nothing in your article about the tenants' responsibility. As a litigation solicitor I would point out that there are some inaccuracies in your article. Contrary to your soothing words to the tenants, it does not take 4-5 months to get a court order. Following service of a section 8 order, mention of which is not made in your article, a court order can be applied for in 2 weeks and obtained in 4 further weeks if your court is as efficient as my local court. Even if a bailiff is required to evict a tenant who defies the court order, the total time required would be no more than 10 - 12 weeks. And if the tenant does have a TV and hair straighteners they may not be safe - the bailiff can seize them to help pay off the money judgement for arrears of rent. 

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  • nickpike
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    nickpike said

    We are not renting more properties than ever before. This is VI ramping. Rightmove show much the same number of properties to let.

    Landlords can rub their hands as much as they like. rental is not like buying, it depends on weekly/ monthly affordability. With no/ low pay rises, unemployment and inflation in general, rents are likely to come down. And government schemes are in place to help the over borrowed who are buying. There is no help for the tenant.

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  • culluding-fool
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    culluding-fool said

    From my own experience a "rogue" landlord can do what ever they want, as I once discovered when being evicted at knifepoint. I was two weeks behind in rent but that wasn't the reason for eviction because all the other tenants in the property were evicted the same day, without notice or warning. Maybe Basildon have a law of their own. I lost all my possessions because they were literally dumped in the street & I had to abandon them to go to look for accommodation. By the time I got back they were gone. Police were no help either. I hadn't been in the country long. What a welcome!

    Having said that, most of my landlords have been wonderful people & when I have had difficulties I have never had any problem coming to some kind of arrangement to get the rent up to date, plus I have never left a property with money owing, nor have I ever had deductions from a deposit (apart from the one mentioned above).

    Unfortunately it seems my current landlord may be breaking the law, from what you say in your article. He likes to inspect the property every six months & he sends a letter to me the day before to say that he needs to gain access to the property and, "don't worry if you wont be in. I have a key.". I arrived home to find the landlord and two other men in "my" house one day. I have had many issues with this landlord, including not having a back fence to protect my three year old from wandering into the motorbike race track at the back! I did see CAB about it but they said if I take a legal stance then the landlord may just evict me. I can't afford to move again so I've let things be for now. My daughter can't play in the garden without my supervision. I can't wait to move but being a single parent with only benefits to live on, it'll take me until the end of 2011 to pay for the last move.

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  • neepdocker
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    neepdocker said

    As a Landlord I like to think I abide by the Law. But unfortunately the people who write these articles don't state what Laws in what Country they refer to. They forget that Scotland has a seperate Legal System than England. No wonder that Myths exist as to what the Law actually is.

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  • Larry
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    Larry said

    No need to take a bad tenant to court.....cheaper, faster & easier to give them a wad of cash to leave.....

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  • terminator
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    terminator said

    A woman is renting my house moved in 3rd sept with glowing refs from the previous landlord . She has not paid me any rent yet has come with numerous different reasons why . I can only think the previous landlord gave her the refs to get rid of her . My agent has given her the section 21 , luckly i have a 6 month agreement . It has put me in a difficult position . I think these types just play the law . I WILL NOT BE LETTING ANY LONGER ONCE SHE HAS GONE .iT WILL NOT BE LONG BEFORE THERE WILL BE NOT ENOUGH HOUSES TO LET AND FOLK WILL BE ON THE STREET , THANKS TO POEPLE MAKING LAWS WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE DOING .TONY BLAIR

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  • FREEBY
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    FREEBY said

    A very biased and

    damaging report in the favour of tenants, what about the tenant’s obligations and

    responsibilities, a very unfair biased report by the author me thinks!!!

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  • sda68
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    sda68 said

    I am a letting consultant and personally I find this article completely irresponsible. However, perhaps recommending that people use regulated agents would overcome any fears of being scammed.

    I can only raise my eyebrows at 'Landlords and Letting agents rubbing their hands at the prospect of a booming rental market'. Which market are you looking at?

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  • MK22
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    MK22 said

    Funny, isn't it, how sooner or later, on most LoveMoney posts, someone will blame Tony Blair/Gordon Brown for whatever they believe is wrong. Perhaps I should redress the balance by saying on every LoveMoney post how much better it would be without Cameron/Clegg. It would be just as ridiculous.

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  • Donna Ferguson
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    Donna Ferguson said

    Why is it unfair/biased to make sure tenants are aware of their legal rights, rather than believing in myths? I am not sure I understand why some of you feel this is wrong. We are not encouraging tenants to 'scam' their landlords - surely that is the point, that they are legally entitled to be treated properly by landlords under the legislation Rob mentions? 

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  • Axel
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    Axel said

    There are good and bad tenants and landlords throughout. However, i think the bad tenants dont really care about the legals, they will be bad and not pay rent, not look after the property without legally knowing what they can, cant do anyway, they do not have to have the facts before they do this. It happens!

    I think this article will benefit both good tenants and landlords the same in a fight against bad tenants and landlords.

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  • Fairy
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    Fairy said

    I like how all the landlors here are getting up in arms.

    Prior to 2007 I had many problems with rogue landlords, those renting to students are the worst.

    I am delighted about the tenency deposit scheme as it stops other being ripped off as I was in my student house. Our whole deposit was with held due to not repainting the house and a damp problem. He even tried to charge us for replacment of a carpet, which the previous tenants had paid for in their deposit.

    In my latest experience it is the agencies and not the landlords who are the problem. I have had agents coming round to show the house to potential buyers, without even telling me the house is up for sale, let alone requesting permission for entry to the house.

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  • moreteavicar
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    moreteavicar said

    Spot on Fairy.

    Whilst there have been some bad tenants, I have rented for the last 15 years, as a student (undergrad and PhD) and as a professional, in 10 different properties, of these about 5 moderately good landlords (generally bear minimum standards to the property). The rest have demonstrated little integrity, withholding deposits and hiking rental renewal contracts. One or two rental agencies also being culpable - LUFF ASSOCIATES in Camberley, FOXTONS in Guildford - AVOID these two like the plague!

    Foxtons had the audacity to rent a property to us, whilst it was simultaneously up for sale by them. We suddenly had a new Landlord, and missing £1200 advance rent! Foxtons deny any wrong doing!

    A similar occurrence happened to our neighbour's daughter with Luff associates - on the insistence of Luffs she had paid 6 months in advance, the landlord failed to keep up his mortgage repayments and the property repossessed shortly after her tenancy started. She lost a lot of money, and Mary Luff was incredibly rude and unhelpful. We were already renting through Luffs at the time, and found them to be equally unpleasant, although fortunately despite their best efforts to withhold our deposit, we had a property in better condition than when we took it on, and the law on our side.

    Fortunately despite the myths, the rental market isn't saturated, so you can move around, if a little inconvenient. Just like there is for utilities - we could really do with a rental comparison site!

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  • shocked
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    shocked said

    Yes its easy to say protect the hard done to tenant but why should we decent landlords put roofs over the heads of people who have no respect for properties not owned by themselves! We are not all ripping tenants off and not all tenants are bad, i have several great ones.

    I have a tenant in a large house, he has no regard for his contract and decides to do things to the property without consulting me beforehand as stated in his contract. The property also has a large mature garden which has become overgrown and grass which was once beautiful has been worn away with the amount of dogs he now owns. He informs me now he doesn't like gardening, i have suggested to him that he will have to get someone to help but why take a property on like that if you are best suited to a concrete jungle! My problem started when i asked to increase his bond as it is a large house and with him ripping carpets up willy nilly to suit his dogs i was wanting to protect myself as the initial bond would not cover all that. I apparently have to stand back and let him wreck a beautiful home and now rent is being withheld. I think landlords should have more rights we need to protect OUR properties from the bad tenants who have no regard for them and think just because they pay rent they can do what they dame like - buy your own property if you want to do what you want dont complain when your landlord's up in arms.

    I feel for terminator as after giving my tenant notice to leave he asked for a reference and i found myself in a quandry do i give him a rave review just to get rid of him and his 7 dogs! I decided to do the decent thing and I said i would send it on to the people who asked for it he was very disgruntled and hasn't asked again. I fear i'm stuck with him as who in the right mind is going to take him on with so many animals, any takers please let me know!!

    Report on 19 November 2010  |  Love thisLove  0 loves
  • kittzy
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    kittzy said

    I realise this is a bit old but i just had to say something.

    This did smack a bit of how to shaft your landlord, although it costs money i would absolutely reccomend the using of a letting agent for both landlords and tenants, I have a fantastic letting agent and i have never had a bad tenant. If anything needs doing i do it, if the tanants want to do something they ask first. I do not allow dogs ( no matter how vigilant you are dogs always find somewhere to mark the house) just cats, as the lesser of two evils.

    If everyone took responsibility and performed their duty the world would be a better place.

    I bend over backwards for my tenants, after all if they are happy they will be more likely to look after the place and more likely to pay their rent on time and stay longer.

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