The new 120% mortgage

Robert Powell
by Lovemoney Staff Robert Powell on 08 February 2011  |  Comments 16 comments

Robert Powell takes a look at Lloyds TSB's new mortgage for home owners who want to move but are being held back by negative equity...

The new 120% mortgage

If you thought the days of 120% mortgages - where mortgage lenders agree to lend borrowers 120% of the value of a property - were long gone, never to return: think again.

Lloyds TSB has just launched a new mortgage deal that allows its customers to do just that.

The difference is, unlike those pre-credit crunch mortgages that were offered to first time buyers without a deposit to help them get their feet on the first rung of the property ladder, this mortgage is aimed at 'second steppers'.

Second steppers

Second steppers are home owners who are looking to move but are unable to do so due to poor or negative equity. These unlucky mortgage borrowers typically bought their first home at the peak of the market four or five years ago and are now looking to either relocate or move into a bigger property.

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Many of these people will have bought up flats and new-builds on high loan-to-value (LTV) mortgages. The problem is that the average price paid by a first time buyer has dropped by £28,041 over the last three years and flats and new-builds have fared even worse than usual.

As a result one in ten second steppers are estimated by Lloyds to be in negative equity with double that number not having sufficient equity to move (less than 10%).

Lloyds’ figures also show that the average difference in deposit between first and second properties now stands at £48,216. This means a second stepper would have to put away £982.94 each month for four years to be able to move. And that’s before you even consider the £5,422.68 that second steppers estimate they’ll have to pay in extra costs and fees when they move.

Factor into this the lack of high LTV mortgages (there are now only 199 products at 90% LTV, compared to 897 three years ago) as well as the generally subdued nature of the market at the moment and it's easy to see why a bottleneck of these 'second steppers' might be throttling the life out of the property market.

Think about it: you can’t get new people onto a ladder if a load of people are stuck standing on the bottom rung. That's bad news for property prices all the way up the property chain - and it's especially bad news for first-time buyers.

First time buyers

As you would expect, 84% of second steppers hope to sell their property to a first time buyer, but unfortunately they’re not having much luck. Nearly a quarter have had their property on the market for between 6 and 12 months, one in five haven’t had any viewings of their property and 56% have not received any offers.

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The problem lies in the fact that second steppers are reluctant to drop their sale price to realistic market levels for fear of negative or low equity. But the lack of affordable mortgages floating around at the moment means first time buyers aren’t able to fork out anymore than the current market price.

In fact, second steppers are so reluctant to lose money on their home they would rather rent it out, sell it to a landlord or just stay put until the market recovers than drop the price. Unfortunately this is blocking up the options for first time buyers by taking a lot of affordable property out of the market altogether.

Equity leg up

To solve this problem, Lloyds TSB has decided to effectively offer the second steppers on its books a leg up onto the second rung of the property ladder. It believes this will not only benefit second steppers but will in turn free up housing for first time buyers and give the market a much needed kickstart. 

What is the Lloyds TSB 120% mortgage deal?

The scheme works like a portable mortgage, allowing you to use your hard earned cash to put down a deposit on a new property rather than plug the gap caused by negative equity. You can trade up, down or buy a property of a similar value but, most importantly, you won’t be able to increase the size of your mortgage – any extra money you need to buy the property must come from your own pocket.

The deal is only available to existing Lloyds mortgage customers and you’ll only be eligible if you’re negative equity is 120% LTV or less.

If you can afford to buy a higher value property using this scheme, the money you put down as a deposit will, of course, reduce the loan-to-value of your mortgage. Take this example:

Current mortgage: £130,000

New mortgage: £130,000

Current property worth: £110,000

New property worth: £120,000

Current LTV: 118%

New LTV: 108%

 

Additional customer deposit: £10,000

Source: Lloyds TSB

Of course, you've had to invest £10,000 in a new property to make the move shown above - and the property is still worth less than the mortgage.

Yes, unlike the risky 100%+ LTV mortgages we saw being offered before the credit crunch, borrowers aren't taking on any extra debt by taking out this mortgage. But there still is a risk for borrowers who decide to step up and put down their savings to buy a higher value property. If you lost your job or somehow failed to keep up the payments on your mortgage and the property was repossessed, you'd lose all the extra money you'd put down as a deposit for the property. Lloyds TSB would be entitled to take the entire proceedings of the sale of the property due to the high LTV.

In other words, if the property were to be repossessed, Lloyds TSB would benefit from the extra money you'd invested into the property - not you. 

For this reason, this scheme is best suited for those looking to relocate to a property of the exact same value – not, in fact, those who want to step up the property ladder to a more expensive property. Keep your money in your savings account!

Who’s it for?

The scheme is only available to existing Lloyds TSB mortgage customers and is not currently being rolled out to brokers.

Lloyds estimate that 80% of second steppers are aged between 25 and 34 years old, four out of five are either married or living with their partner and their mean household income is approximately £51,400.

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Will it work?

Due to its extremely limited availability and the risks for those who put down deposits in order to move to more expensive properties, Lloyds’ scheme is far from the market moving mortgage that they may like to think it is.

But nevertheless, for some borrowers in negative equity who want to move home, it will be a helpful option.

Personally, despite its flaws, I'm in favour. I think schemes like these could be a vital lifeline for those forced to relocate due to large-scale public sector redundancies. And morally speaking (if there is such a type of speech in the mortgage market!) it’s also right that lenders who sold buyers 95%+ deals back in the boom years offer appropriate rates for those same customers who are now looking to move up the property ladder.

Several other lenders do in fact offer similar negative equity deals, but they are issued on a case by case basis and are seldom advertised. Perhaps this is unsurprising after the critical reaction Nationwide received back in 2009 after it began publicising its new 125% mortgage.

But as Lloyds’ research proves, consumer sentiment is altering and with both buyers and lenders wary of another housing bubble, perhaps high LTV mortgages could now be part of the solution, rather than the problem. Let us know your thoughts using the comments box below!

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Comments (16)

  • AFlondon
    Love rating 18
    AFlondon said

    Will there be a space on the application form to book an appointment with the Insolvency Service three years from now when you need to apply for bankruptcy because of double-digit interest rates (made necessary by the high inflation caused by the Bank of England's failure to raise interest rates by a small amount now)?

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  • JRAY100
    Love rating 50
    JRAY100 said

    To risk even more negative equity?

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions!

     

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  • bradley88
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    bradley88 said

    AFlondor's comment is showing some ignorance in that interest rate rises are made to tackle inflation from internal influences such as inflationary wage rises, which have not taken place for many years- the opposite in fact - caused by redundancies and the credit crunch. The inflation that has been evident is caused by the main external influence of fuel rises- the credit crunch is still with us, and maybe more so as a result. To raise interest rates would be a suicidal move of gross stupidity (suicidal) if the intentions are to get us out of the recession.

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  • gavinb
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    gavinb said

    Agree with these comments, it would need to come with at least 5 years fixed interest rate or no one will touch it with a bargepole. This ain't no market mover, most people will still either sell and rent or sit tight.

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  • Quarket
    Love rating 25
    Quarket said

    Whether Bradley88 thinks interest rate rises would be suicidal or not, they will happen at some point in the future and the consenus seems to be that it won't be too far away so I agree with AFlondon's comment.

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  • thomasak001
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    thomasak001 said

    I read the title with disbelief. My disbelief was all the greater but my understanding was better by the end.

    The clue for me was in the fact that this is only open to Lloyds customers. So in the 'times of plenty' Lloyds encouraged these cutomers to take out a loan they couldn't afford, with little or no financial security based on an asset that, with the bank's knowledge of finance - they are the experts, they knew was hopely over valued. If banks have been guilty of mis-selling endowments, and prremium protection insurance, how are not all the banks guilty of mis-selling mortgages at the time of the bubble?

    This whole scheme is an example of a bank even now failing to take responsibility for their reckless and negligent action that massively contributed to the miserable situation these cutomers are now in. They were the experts. If they had acted in their clients best interests then this wouldn't have happened.

    This will never happen of course, but what they should do is go back to the point where they mis-sold the mortgage that facilitated the purchase at the hugely infalted price. They should calculate what the value of the house should have been if they and all their greedy friends had restricted loans to max 4x properly evidenced salary, 90%LTV etc and then credit these customers with the difference. This is the minimum compensation due for the bad advice. In most cases this would wipe out the negative equity and maybe even leave a little extra. These customers would then be able to sell the house on at the current market rate or a bit less and be debt free. It won't happen because banks still have no morals, still deny they did anything wrong.

    If things are bad now, just think what will happen if rates go up to even a modest 2%. Folks like me bumping along the bottom, paying next to interest and nothing off the capital will suddenly be paying proper repayments again. It will break many of us, even those like me with 70% equity but no job. If interest rates go up then we will finally see the full folly of Labour's and their banking friends' feckless years. 

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  • kirinski
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    kirinski said

    Quarket, I agree with you that the interest rates will eventually go up. Of course they will!

    But do you honestly agree with AFlondon that we will see double-digit interest rates 3 years from now??

    I don't think so. And neither do banks, by the look of things. Just glance at the 5-year fixed rates being offered now or 5-year interest rate swaps (just over 3 pc now from 2.92 pc a week ago). It is obvious that noone in the industry belives in double-digit rates.... (and IF AFlondon were right in their predictions, they could make a fortune by playing the market... - I always dare those who make such grand statements to prove their beliefs by acting, in reality very few would be willing to put ANY money on what they preach)

    Bradley88 speaks sense (evidently they have a solid understanding of economics). I totally agree with you, Bradley88. Raising interest rates too fast / too much may cause total collapse of the UK's economy with the large proportion of the population facing destitution and poverty beyond what anyone has ever seen in the developed world. Our politicians and economists, with all their flaws, are simply not going to let that happen.

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  • Aquasponge
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    Aquasponge said

    For the boom and bust deniers this is bad news - and good news for first time buyers.

    The pillory and the pranger are devices used in the medieval times as a form of physical punishment involving public humiliation. Those who were foolish enough to purchase a house anytime after 2006 now face a similar fate – the “for sale” sign up in front of their house for months upon months - a clear sign of the greatest fools among us.

    These stocks partially immobilized its victims and they were often exposed in a public place such as the site of a market (Rightmove etc,) to the scorn of those who passed by. Since the purpose was to punish offenders against the standards of conduct of the time, anybody could assault, revile or aim filth at the victim.

    Find out from the Land Registry when and how much the entrapped seller paid for the house. If the seller purchased the house any time after 2005, then with the help of this new product from Lloyds, you can now demand at least an additional 20% off.

    The foolish can be as stupid as they like as long as there is a greater fool out there to pass onto. The music has stopped and the greatest fools are now hanging dry in the intransigent stocks of stupidity for all to see.

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  • snafu
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    snafu said

    @Bradley88 - absolutely agree with you on this. raising interest rates at any point this year would send this country back to the stone age.

    I completely understand that they need to go up at some point but whilst we as a country have to endure such high commodity prices inflation will go up, regardless of how much or little people spend.....and yes i do know all about how 'core' inflation is measured before anyone comments on that particular jem.

    Back to the point of this article though - i think in theory it is good that people are being offered a chance to better their housing situation and if they can afford it and the mortgages are sensibly approved by the lenders then i say why not?

    Only time will tell if this whole mess will be sorted out and i do not believe for a second anybody really has a true idea of what the future lies for us all - if they do it's cos they have a crystal ball!

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  • larryf
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    larryf said

    The banks are livid about the extra 830M Osborne is taking from them today. They also keep telling us that they are operating responsibly (except when one raises that issues of CDO's etc). Can anyone for one minute class this lunatic offer from Lloyds as responsible lending?The sad thing is that there are enough people out there stupid enough to take on such a loan even when house prices are falling daily. 

    May the good lord preserve us from responsible bankers!

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  • Jack - Essex
    Love rating 0
    Jack - Essex said

    If purchasers have £10,000 (as example shown) in savings, why have they not reduced the mortgage on their property in the first place, better return on their money than leaving in a savings account and helps with the negative equity as well

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  • SevenPillars
    Love rating 70
    SevenPillars said

    All this confirms is that house prices are still too high and that many first time buyers were sucked in to overpaying for property during the bubble boom prior to 2008. The banks and housing market VI's are quite clever at coming up with new products and schemes to try and keep it all going. Trouble is, most of these products and schemes can become a financial millstone around your neck if you are not careful.

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  • eLJay
    Love rating 76
    eLJay said

    Our economy really is a convoluted mess. Follow a teaching from the Engineering mantra - Simplify, Simplify, Simplify.

    I'd like to damn them for causing the rise in the first place ('when I were a lad cars were more expensive than houses' - I'd like to grudgingly thank Bugatti/Ferrari/et al for making that true again).

    I'd like to thank them for causing a financial mess where I can buy a repossessed house and will easily own it within the next 10 years.

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  • bulltwitter
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    bulltwitter said

    While this mortgage looks like good news for people who need or want to move but can't because they're in negative equity, it looks like bad news for house prices since it means these people can now afford to accept much lower offers on their houses.

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  • IPINLive
    Love rating 13
    IPINLive said

    Obviously the banking industry and mortgage providers are just being allowed to run wild and create fanciful products to just churn fees now, all at the expense of everyone else.

    First we see "helpful" first time buyer mortgages with high LTV that are being promoted into a down trending market that will likely leave buyers in negative equity within 12 months, and now this to "help" those already in a situation they cannot get out of.

    What part of irresponsible lending (i.e. lending to someone knowing full well that the loan will be increasingly difficult to pay) is not understood by the government or the banks?

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  • Aquasponge
    Love rating 38
    Aquasponge said

    This product is needed as houses have lost c.18% from their peak. Future derivative markets are pointing that house prices will not move for the next six years – this will reduce their prices by more than 30% in real terms.

    Of course most prediction are wrong – including markets. For instance, in January 2010 the BoE stated that inflation (CPI) would be 1.5% in January 2011 – in fact it was more than double this figure at c.3.7% (and rising).

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