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Property prices to stagnate in 2010

Neil Faulkner
by Lovemoney Staff Neil Faulkner on 18 September 2009  |  Comments 14 comments

Find out where lovemoney.com readers think property prices are headed.

Last week, we surveyed lovemoney.com readers and collected a fairly representative sample across Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It wasn't a massive survey as it had just 844 respondents but, since we kept our questions quite broad, that's large enough to give us a rough picture of people's confidence in the housing market.

Around 70% of you currently don't consider this market a really strong market for buying or selling property. The remaining 30% are evenly split between whether you would definitely buy in this market or definitely sell (or definitely recommend to friends that they should sell).

This largely correlates with your views on property prices. Around 80% think that house prices over the next 12 months won't move or will barely move in either direction. Of the remainder (who think house prices will move more dramatically), those who think prices will fall outnumbered those who think they will rise by three to one.

Around 60% thought that tracker mortgages are still a better bet, which reflects the huge discount you currently get with trackers over fixed rates, and probably also a belief that rates won't rise for some time. We could perhaps read into this that people are still understandably pessimistic about the economy.

Who can we rely on to call the market?

I've argued before that, in normal times like this, forecasting the property market's next move is extremely difficult and I'm still to find a professional forecaster who has consistently done a good job over a significant number of predictions.

The consensus prediction from our survey is that house prices won't move much over the next 12 months, yet consumers can get predictions wrong as easily as the professionals.

House prices were pushed up by buyers in 2006 and 2007, many of whom will now be in negative equity and, more importantly, will be thinking that it would have been better to keep renting and buy later. Millions more were desperate to get on the ladder as soon as they possibly could afford it and now it seems they were saved by their lack of funds and income.

Others were predicting as early as 2003 and 2004 that prices would fall and refused to buy although they could afford it. Most of them will still be waiting for prices to fall far enough to reward that decision.

These are reasons why I think you should take survey results, as interesting as they may be, with a fistful of salt.

We can gain some comfort from the past

Most of these views will be based on, or greatly influenced by, price movements over the past few months and on other recent indicators that the economy and lending might be turning around.

However, monthly figures by themselves are unreliable and are as good as meaningless, and, even if we consider trends over six to 12 months, all that tells us is what happened over that period. It doesn't tell us what's going to happen over the next six to 12 months.

Quality historical data on property prices is surprisingly limited, with the best records being kept in the past few decades. Based on that relatively small period of time we can see that no one owning a property for at least ten years has come out worse for wear, even if they bought at the peak of a boom. This doesn't mean that a significant loss can't happen over longer periods, but it does give us some reassurances that buying a property is a good purchase in the long run.

The exact point in time that you buy, over the long run, becomes less important than ensuring you can afford the repayments, even if interest rates were to rise significantly.

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  • creative
    Love rating 7
    creative said

    How misleading is this headline ?

    Stick your finger in the air, see which way the winds blowing is almost as scientific as this pathetic speculation.

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  • Hardtruth
    Love rating 66
    Hardtruth said

    And your point is...creative?

    Be honest you read the article with as much titillation as everyone else because like everyone else you have a fixation with house pricing.

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  • JD
    Love rating 3
    JD said

    My 290,000 pound property went up 35% in 2006 t0 2007. Since then it's plateaued but not lost value. As have most of the properties in my area of South London

    I would suggest those that wait for prices to drop in 'buoyant' areas are making a mistake...a rather large mistake in fact (I place little value on a small survey that is based on opinion rather than fact)...I would not say this in reference to more depressed property markets all over the country though. And let's remember what happened to Sydney property prices during the Olympics in 2000...London may be about to boom again if only for a short while...so get in there if you have the finances cos rates aren't gonna get a lot lower.

    There is virtually no way prices will drop 30 percent in the next few years - possibly over the next 20 years like the Jap market but thats a long long way off...

    My advice is that those that want to own their own home should do so - now if they want...but not to look at this as a better investment than shares or other financial products because quite simply the upside is never gonna be as good...

    Having said that...I'm now looking at buying another property as rental income will more than pay off my mortgage on my current abode even with voids and maintenance...and I'm sick of my current area...so I consider myself lucky but then again I have thrown all my extra savings into paying the place off, minimising my mortgage...as having savings means I am making a net loss when you oppose my mortgage rate with my savings rate... 

    It's a useless antiquated system that makes money for the banks and the government at the expense of those that pay taxes already...I often wonder whether there are back room deals going on with politicians and banks...and don't get me started on HIPS...

    Anyway that's my 2 pence worth. 

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  • Mick James
    Love rating 25
    Mick James said

    Here are some of the more important factors people should bear in mind when buying a house or flat: structural condition, likelihood of subsidence, proximity to transport and schools, storage space, power points, size and aspect of garden, ability to extend, age and condition of central heating system, utility costs/energy rating, noisy neighbours, flood risk...and many more

    Second guessing the housing market is a pretty low umpteenth compared to most of these.

    What is more important to note is that there's no need to rush into anything right now. Far better to get your ducks in a row so as to be able to act rather than rush to seal a deal. Prices may be lower at the moment but low volumes mean less choice so may have to compromise more than you would like (which in my view counts as a cost). Better to be a bit late into a rising market than stuck somewhere you don't like.

    Also, I don't much like the look of the mortgage market at the moment, fixes are so high as to offer very little real insurance, tracker mark-ups are ridiculous and the trend towards extortionate "arrangement" and "booking" fees has gone a long way beyond too far. 

    Plus...the next budget may have some good news on stamp duty, given that it's not bringing in much dosh at the moment so the government could afford to make a generous looking concession here.

    Finally as far as predictions of the level of prices go there's no-one out there with any kind of track record, so I'd rate the "wisdom of crowds" in the survey quite highly.

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  • creative
    Love rating 7
    creative said

    My point Hardtruth is why bother with more nonsense reporting and silly headlines - your point is ?

    I'm old enough to know what will be will be with house prices.

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  • DP130132
    Love rating 21
    DP130132 said

    There are clear signs - SELL UP, take what you can,  Buy your dream home in a decent climate, and emigrate!!

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  • nickpike
    Love rating 277
    nickpike said

    The property market is the easiest thing in the world to analyse.

    I and many others new the bubble would burst. Prices were falling at their fastest rate in history. This has been posponed for now by a staggering 175bn printy printy and other huge fiscal stimuli. But these ar unsustainable. Soon the housing market will continue its decline. In 3 years houses will lose another 30% at least. The ratios and lending practices dictate this.

    Only the greedy here will dissagree. Houses need to be as cheep as possible. They are human nests after all. I'm sick of hearing about houses being investments. There's a new breed of Britains who don't want to work, but still think they can make squillions. Well, mother nature kicks back in the long run. You don't get something for nothing.

    The snake oil salesmen can go after another scam, the housing scam is over.

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  • Ayng
    Love rating 0
    Ayng said

    As someone currently trying to sell their house, I am not only interested in house prices but also sales volume. Are there any figures kept for numbers of houses bought/sold? Because without that the prices alone are not very meaningful - if there is hardly any activity like in an area, prices are rather theoretical.

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    Ayng

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  • FrugalFred
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    FrugalFred said

    Property prices will not go anywhere for a while yet, the main reason being the financial institutions reluctance to lend any money to first time buyers to kickstart the property market as a whole. People still want to buy and sell property but lack of sensible mortgage deals prevent this.

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  • time2go
    Love rating 66
    time2go said

    nickpike - It's all very well to say that houses need to be cheap as possible, but that makes the assumption that builders, plumbers, carpenters, plasterers and Construction Companies are prepared to work/build homes for minimal profit. Is that what the employees/shareholders would be happy with?

    Lets face it, everyone is 'greedy', are you prepared to work for minimal income?

    I would have thought most people believe that the work they do should be remunerated appropriately. If houses were 'cheap' you are suggesting that profits and remuneration should be limited. Why would anyone starting their working life go into a business/profession/career that will limit the money that they will be able to make?

    I think that if houses were ever as cheap as you would like them to be, there would be very few builders prepared to build them. What would you do then?

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  • Navigator
    Love rating 1
    Navigator said

    I have no idea what is going to happen to house prices and it doesn't really matter. I need a roof over my head and I would like to pay the mortgage off as soon as possible.

    However, there is something I cannot work out and need some help understanding. More and more frequently I meet people whose plan is to build a property portfolio of 10 houses, rent them out, and live happily ever after. Once all the houses are bought by landlords, my expectation is there will be an oversupply and no one to rent them to hence it will be a renters market (low rental rates won't cover the mortgage).

    I expect this will take the steam out of the market over the next 10 to 20 years (a decent investment cycle before everyone realises they were wrong). House prices go up because more people have disposable income. We have spent beyond our means and the average person is not going to have the money to spluge on a house over the next decade, so prepare for stagnation.

    My plan is to work hard at my job to afford the next best house and I am pumping a lot into my pension (with about 40% returns in the last 6 months has made me happy).

    So its back to that old chestnut, don't keep all you eggs in one basket. Be humble, spread it around and don't take chances you cannot afford.

    By the way I am a Financial Planner.

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  • time2go
    Love rating 66
    time2go said

    Navigator- I think that is sound advice about not putting all your eggs in one basket.

    I know some people who sold and moved abroad before property prices escalated last time. When they came back to the UK they were in no position to purchase a property in the area they used to live in, even though they had benefited from numerous tax breaks whilst being 'non resident'. This country is short of housing it appears every adult child wants to move out of the family home as soon as they can. This is one factor that feeds demand (in both rental as well as sales) and consequently helps to inflate property prices. So although I would agree that buying 10 properties in an attempt to live of the rental is a risky strategy, having one to add to your 'future income' may not be such a terrible idea.

    Pumping money into a pension also requires careful planning, particularly when you are about to retire. I think as a financial planner it would have been helpful to point this out Particularly as some people will think it is just a case of putting the money away, wait until you are 65 then contact your pension provider and hey presto you can dance away on those hip replacements of yours. An exit strategy is needed otherwise a crash in the market shortly before you retire could have a devastating effect on your retirement plans.

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  • ITexpert77
    Love rating 4
    ITexpert77 said

    time2go:

    The biggest component in every house price is the LAND!

    Anyone who has looked at new build properties in different areas of the UK and has seen the exact SAME brand new houses half price in some areas (e.g. Corby!!) than others, understands that.

    Anyone who has seen the rebuilding cost of his property at the insurance papers understand that too, as it's much lower than the purchase price.

    Anyone who ever was interested in building a house, and found out that a small plot is "worth" over £200k just for the land knows that very well!

    The land is the problem is UK (especially in the South East), the insane difficult planning laws, all the green belt malarkey, every neighbour who objects a new house being built nearby (like his house didn't need to be built in the past!), etc.

    But the root of it all is the conservative mentality in this country thinking that by not building many new houses, we're all richer as our properties increase in value. What about our children who need a house, or ourselves when we want to move house? The only people who can win at this, is the wise ones who sell and move abroad where houses are so much cheaper.

    The proper and realistic price for a brand new detached 4 bed house with everyone making money and good profit is £180k (as in Corby). Everything beyond that is the difficulty acquiring the land and the planning permission.

    Let's do the same with cars, let's restrict the sale of new cars to 5% of today's numbers and then we all will be richer driving our old bangers for 30 years as they will be worth much more.

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  • Arthurian
    Love rating 5
    Arthurian said

    General Inflation is plainly a MAJOR FACTOR in House prices as it influences [Not Least] Interest Rates.

    Inflation & Interest Rates may well RISE much more due to imports rising as the Pound PLUMMETS in regard to the Euro. Remember OIL & Gas is bought in Dollars so this matters also.

    Much of our Food now comes from the Eurozone [Now Proving to be a 'Stable Currency Area] We will probably come to DEEPLY Regret not following Spain, Germany & France [Especially] into the Euro. Certain Tabloids, as well as politticians, have whipped up prejudices against the Euro [Remember 'Up Your, DeLours'?]

    Many will now be not only be paying DOUBLE for food and holidays from/to the Eurozone but paying in terms of paying the Banks via their Bureau De Changes as well. [Something our continental partners only need to do if they come HERE!!]

    Remember TWO Euros to the Pound??

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