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Cliff D'Arcy
by Lovemoney Staff Cliff D'Arcy on 21 July 2009  |  Comments 37 comments

We've just seen the largest quarterly jump in unemployment on record. Can house prices rise while job losses soar?

While watching for the first signs of 'green shoots' in the UK economy, along come the latest unemployment figures to deal a body blow to the hopeful...

Victims of a recession

The latest unemployment figures show that unemployment rose by 281,000 between March and May, reaching 2.38 million. This is the biggest three-month rise in joblessness since records began in 1971. The unemployment rate rose to 7.6% of the workforce, or one worker in every thirteen, which is at its highest level since January 1997.

Most forecasters expect unemployment to peak at 3 million to 3.2 million, or about one in ten of the active workforce. However, this is not expected to happen until mid- to late 2010, so the human cost of the recession and banking collapse looks set to continue for another year.

Young adults are suffering more than most, with the unemployment rate among the under-25s hitting 17.3%, or more than one in six young workers. Even worse, around 600,000 school-leavers and university graduates are about to flood onto the job market.

With job vacancies falling to 429,000 in June, their lowest level since 2001, many young people will struggle with the first step of the employment ladder...

What about house prices?

Economists believe that unemployment is a 'lagging indicator', which means that it usually continues to rise for while after the economy turns a corner and returns to growth. Nevertheless, the recent large jump in joblessness makes me worried any recovery could be weak and short-lived.

Recently, I read this wise quote: "True financial security is a reliable income." This made me think about the impact that unemployment has on our great British obsession: house prices. Put simply, people don't buy houses when they are out of work or fear for their jobs. Likewise, they avoid over-stretching themselves when their wages have reduced, for example, from lost overtime or bonuses.

Thus, we assume that rising unemployment is bad news for house prices, but is this always the case?

The patterns of the past

Let's look at the strong trends in unemployment over the past 25 years or so.

As we know, the late Eighties housing boom went hand-in-hand with a strong rise in unemployment. Indeed, unemployment peaked at 3.37 million in the first quarter of 1986, before more than halving to 1.63 million by the end of 1989 -- a drop of 52%.

You don't need to be a historian to know what happened to house prices over these four years. According to the Halifax, they soared by almost three-quarters, with the average house price rising from £35,647 to £61,495 (up 73%). Thus, the 'Yuppie years' saw rising employment and sharply rising house prices.

Of course, after the boom came the bust. Between the start of 1990 and the end of 1993, unemployment rose from 1.67 million to 2.78 million, rising by two-thirds (67%). During the same period, house prices fell by almost a seventh (14%). So, when unemployment took off, house prices slid.

Random or related?

As Nassim Nicholas Taleb warns in his excellent book Fooled by Randomness, there is a strong tendency among humans to see patterns in random data. In other words, we are often guilty of 'imprinting' -- looking for trends which support our deeply held beliefs.

One way around this weakness is to compare two sets of data (such as unemployment and house prices) mathematically. The 'correlation coefficient' of two variables measures how closely they rise or fall together, in terms of their strength and direction.

A correlation coefficient of +1 shows that two sets of data are perfectly correlated. In other words, they rise or fall together at exactly the same rate. In contrast, a correlation coefficient of -1 means that two sets of data are perfectly negatively correlated. This means that they move in lockstep, heading in opposite directions at the same rate.

To find the correlation coefficient we need, I compared the quarterly unemployment data from the Office for National Statistics with house-price data from Nationwide BS, over the past 26 years.

The result: one goes up, the other goes down

According to my nifty spreadsheet, the correlation coefficient in my example was -0.81.

In other words, when unemployment rose, house prices dropped 81% of the time, and vice versa. This is quite a strongly negative relationship.

Alas, what this calculation doesn't tell us is whether this is a causal relationship. In other words, we can't claim that falling house prices cause higher unemployment, nor the other way around. After all, both could be the result of another factor, such as rising or falling economic growth, and there may well be no direct link between the two.

Then again, as I said earlier, unemployment is a lagging indicator: it takes time for joblessness to hit consumer confidence and, ultimately, house prices. Introducing an 18-month time lag between the two sets of data increased the correlation coefficient to -0.84, producing an even stronger association.

In summary

If unemployment does rise from today's 2.38 million to as much as 3.2 million, as forecasters predict, then I suspect that this spells bad news for house prices.

Indeed, I don't expect to see any sustained increase in house prices until unemployment peaks and starts to fall. This could happen in the second half of 2010, but I'd be mightily surprised if we saw any lasting recovery in property prices before then.

In short, while we may see a few upwards blips in the monthly house-price data, don't expect a true dawn for house prices in 2009...

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  • JimboMahoney
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    JimboMahoney said

    This is a strange coincidence. I myself have been plotting various financial data in a spreadsheet for some time and recently discovered the CORREL() function.

    I had been using the same source of data and obviously I get a pretty similar correlation coeff. as you. However, if I include data all the way back to 1976, the link between unemployment and house prices weakens to ~ -50%.

    I think it may be interesting to point out that base rate is also correlated to house prices to a similar extent, according to my data, so there could be upward pressure from a low base rate (not that this is reflected terribly well by the actual bank rates on loans).

    I find the most interesting correlation is that of demographics. I've plotted what I consider to be the most likely portion of the population to be buying houses (40 - 42 year olds, but you can extend the age range outwards from that region and the relationship holds) and the correlation coeff. is ~ 90%. I'll leave you to find out what this could mean for property prices in the next decade.

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  • staintuneriderzwei
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    staintuneriderzwei said

    Now i know I shoud read the article first but it's by Cliff D'Arcy and it involves House prices. Let me see now if it's as biased as i suspect or shows any objectivity....I presume serial renter Cliff is still renting and waiting and hoping for carnage in the market so he can buy for a song to take advantage of another's misery. I shall now read it.....

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  • staintuneriderzwei
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    staintuneriderzwei said

    Cliff, although the unemployment figures are a massive concern reagrding the housing market once again you have focused on one thing at the exclusion of others. Most importantly as jimbo quite rightly say's, the low base rate is pushing the other way.

    I think you will also find that the blatant profiteering by the banks and BS's is going to be checked by pressure from the Govt and increasing competition making the low base rate even more of a factor. Add to this the fact that the Banks and BS's are going to have to come up with some pretty good deals to get millions like me ofg the variable rate(2.5 at mo, thanks).

    Swap rates have fallen and i can;t believe people have been panicked into fixing. This base rate is here for a long while yet and it's not going north any time soon.

    If it was anyone else other than CunningCliff I'd take this a bit more seriously but it's getting quite pathetic to see Cliff using whatever he can to kick the housing market because it suits him. If he was in an objective position it would be better but he's not in fact he's less objective than most.

    I suspect Cliif is dismayed that housing has proven quite resilient considering the current turmoil. I bet he just hates the govt for creating a historic low base rate !

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  • WunchOfBankers
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    WunchOfBankers said

    I love the idea of predicting Cliff's articles before reading them! Personally, I think the best thing about his property articles are the comments. It seems there are two camps, the first believe that property will fall by another 80% and the other that Cliff perhaps has a vested interest in a fall. What I don't understand is why everyone acts as if the current recession is the first time anything like this has happened. Perhaps the average age on here is 19.

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  • nickpike
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    nickpike said

    Why ask the question? What is this strange interest in the uk in prices forever racing ahead?

    Why don't we just accept that a hous is to live in? If people want scams and speculation, let them ramp something that's not so important, like antiques or coins or something.

    I don't think the link is so well defined. Unemployment is an indicator of the economy, and it's the economy that will determine house prices. The main factor is the amount of credit available, and that has been nearly destroyed.

    Houses will be as cheap as chips in a couple of years. The economy is very sick. The government went on their hols yesterday, the same day as reports showed something like a 60bn deficit. The country, and especially house prices, cannot survive this destruction.

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  • valentine
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    valentine said

    I wonder if it depends on the type of unemployed. I mean - would they have bought houses anyway, (depending upon which industry is hit, they may or may not have been more likely to do so - if a lot of low paid workers are unemployed, then perhaps rentals will be affected worse, perhaps with a house price effect further on...), and if the builders etc seem to get hit first, then will it have an inverse relationship in some way as with less houses being built/extended, there is more demand? Intriguing, but i doubt that it is as simple as a straight no of unemployed to house prices correlation. I think the bigger picture is much more complex. But people do love to see trends and rationalise the lot of it into something that can be predicted and understood by us all. 

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  • Amos
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    Amos said

    I have read many academic forecasts relating past performance to the current market and analysing in various forensic ways how we might predict whether house prices are going up or down. This in an industry which usually applies the caveat that past performance is no indicator for future performance. In all of the analytical angst there is a tendency to forget one very simple analysis. That of the law of supply and demand. Demand for property will not go away with unemployment. The ability to pay higher prices might be compromised but the willingness to get the property wanted or needed depending on circumstances won't go away. People will still move jobs and change locations maybe even more so if the need is to travel further afield to find work. Families will still grow and others will still split requiring different accomodation. It's the supply side that will be affected in a downturn as people won't readily sell their houses if they think it means taking a loss unless they really have to. Those in work may also see the current position as an opportunity to upgrade. House prices have confounded many an economic observer for a very long time. That's usually because they tend to see them without the ability to fully understand or rationalise the social factors that will always support the demand side whatever affect the wider economy has on the supply side.

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  • ainsworld
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    ainsworld said

    2 points:

    1. Is your correlation based on absolute values (no. unemployed, house values) or annual percentage changes? Percentage changes is the thing you should be using if you seek to demonstrate a strong (and potentially causal) link between the two things.

    2. You say -0.81 correlation means that house prices fell 81% of the time when unemployment went up. This is incorrect - correlation coefficients don't work like that. From a correlation of -0.81 you could say that 66% of the variation in house prices can be explained by unemployment (66% is 0.81 squared), not 81%. And even then the covariance might just as easily be explained by a shared common variable (economic confidence?). As point 1 says, the answer is made clearer by looking at annual changes rather than absolutes.

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  • MrPound
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    MrPound said

    staintuneriderzwei - I see it took you 1 hour to read Cliff's article. I also don't think that one journalist (Cliff) can effect the UK housing prices with his articles, and even Cliff can't be so arrogant to believe his own hype. A funny idea though ;) Interesting that you think that the Government can apply pressure to the banks to offer us punters decent cheap mortgages to keep the housing market afloat and support those that loose their jobs. At the moment they seem to be doing what the hell they like and ripping us off more than ever. There may be some circumstances where someone on a SVR of 2.5% might enter into a 2 yr fixed rate of 5% but I sure as hell can't think of any!

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  • LittleToSay
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    LittleToSay said

    Yeah, I agree with MrPound, in that Cliff is probably not having a profound impact on house-prices with his articles. I think he has good reason for his bearish stance, rather than reckoning that he can manipulate the market with these articles to serve his own needs.

    Personally I too am hoping that house prices drop to more realistic prices, as I really need to move to a rather larger house next year, and don't want to pay an overinflated sum in order to do so.

    Incidentally, I know someone in the USA who's just bought a 3 bedroom detached bungalow with reasonable land for the equivalent of £60K. If only that was possible over here - I'd have moved years ago.

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  • killick_becki
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    killick_becki said

    I'd like it if people stopped beating on Cliff. This article has nothing to do with whether Cliff is renting or not. The article is not biased in any way.

    I think it is nice that someone had a "i wonder if..." moment and managed to publish it so that others can see what might be going on.

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  • james_e_taylor
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    james_e_taylor said

    The last laugh is on Ciff and the others at the Motley Fool. I have noticed a recent increase in the number of articles designed purely to generate comments and site activity.

    Cliff is probably more interested in his share options (or whatever other equity he has in The Motley Fool) and which media house will buy him out when he writes these articles.

    Time for me to stop commenting on such articles, I think. Unless you're prepared to cut me in, Cliff??? ;-)

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  • Mick James
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    Mick James said

    This is about as surprising as Glenn McGrath predicting a 5-0 Ashes whitewash. The house price bears, were, eventually, right but it's only in the last couple of years that taking their advice wouldn't have cost you dearly.

    Worse, even the predictions that were right were right for the wrong reasons. The consensus view was that house prices would simply collapse under their own weight and return to "historical" levels. But this gravitational effect never seemed to work--it took a global financial disaster to halt their progress, one which is now reshaping the economy in unpredictable ways. It's by no means clear which, if any, of the background assumptions that underpinned our thinking in the past will still hold.

    So even if there was a model which had predicted house prices with watchlike accuracy in the past, I wouldn't trust it going forward.

    I don't particularly blame Cliff in this--he's just a bloke writing about the progress of a big bet he's made--but I am staggered by the confidence with which economists and think tanks are even now laying out their predictions for four or five years ahead.

    One could paint a number of scenarios, but the least likely one is where everything is magically put "right" again, so that young couples can easily get on the property ladder and Cliff gets to move into the mansion of his choice.

    The property market involves a very complex set of interactions between renters, owner-occupiers, landlords, and the economy with the government lobbing the odd hand-grenade in from the side. This could lead to inertia, but volatility is more likely. Even simply calling the bottom of the market in these circumstances is going to be very hard indeed.

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  • time2go
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    time2go said

    Unemployment may affect

    house prices but isn’t the issue that we would all like somewhere to live, besides

    a cardboard box in the local bus shelter?

    Prior to the recession, the newspapers

    were filled with articles about the ‘lack of affordable housing’ and lack of

    housing in general. I am assuming that millions of people have not chartered numerous

    ships like the ‘Mayflower’ and gone to the U S of A - so where are they living

    now?

    With parents as an extended family - not the social

    norm but commendable. How long will they cope with their nagging parents

    before they ‘need’ a place of their own?

    Privately renting – those ‘greedy’ BTL investors

    are cashing in again, but at least people have a roof over their heads.

    Many said it was the BTL landlords that pushed up the prices to astronomic

    levels in the first place, may be the ‘evil’ BTL landlord is necessary now

    that mortgages will not be so readily available if unemployment continues

    to rise?

    Renting through the Local Authority /Housing

    Associations – Last time I looked, many local authorities (in urban areas)

    were short of housing stock and relying on private BTL landlords to let

    properties to them directly or through a Housing Association.

    The problem is we still need

    housing no matter how the prices are moving at the present point in time. So

    whether you obtain accommodation by working and striving for a ‘place of your

    own’ or have the availability of Housing Benefit (out of need or choice)-

    Housing is needed. Those individuals with money to invest will continue to use

    property as part of their portfolio, after all isn’t it the case that you

    should only invest money that you can afford to lose. Those that are fortunate

    enough to be cash rich will take advantage of this situation for their own benefit,

    is this not what entrepreneurship (aka capitalism) is about?

    So it’s a moot point whether

    job losses affect house prices. It should be do job losses affect the need for

    housing….answer NO - unless you send all the unemployed to Australia!

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  • chasbmw
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    chasbmw said

    House prices are an interesting amalgam of supply & demand, affordability and the future expectactions of purchasors.

    Nothing to stop supply and demand being satisfied at lower prices, depends on the other factors. I would reckon that the future expectations of purchasors would be the biggest factor in the market.

    If the general economy falls into deflation, then what does that say about house prices?

    Charles

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  • rightoncommander
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    rightoncommander said

    The statistical dishonesty here from Cliff is quite staggering!

    I am still a house price bear (for now), but even I must point out that his figures and his conclusion do not match. How can Cliff conclude that house prices will fall until employment reaches its nadir, having just told us that unemployment is a lagging indicator?!

    Since the coefficient of correlation shows a stronger relationship with an 18-month lag, we'd expect to see house prices rise 18 months before employment starts to rise. So unless you know what unemployment will be in 18 months, you can't use this figure to predict the future movement of house prices! Although a rise in house prices might be a good omen for future employment...

    Except that the statistical measure that Cliff has used, the coefficient of correlation, tells us nothing at all about the topic at hand! All it really tells us is that, if unemployment remains high, house prices will fall, whereas low unemployment coincides with house price rises. This is hardly a revelation! The question of interest is whether we can use a movement in one to predict a future movement in the other. What has Cliff told us about this? Almost nothing, although the tiny change in correlation between the instant figures and the 18-month lag tells us that the relationship is woolly at best, but more likely it is completely useless statistically.

    Jimbo Mahoney also tells us very little by pointing out that the relationship weakens as you go into the 1970s, because inflation was around 3 times higher back then, so house prices would naturally rise in spite of unemployment.

    This just goes to show that Disraeli was right about statistics. In the wrong hands, they can be made to prove just about anything.

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  • famelessfish
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    famelessfish said

    According to Nickpike, "Houses will be as cheap as chips in a couple of years." This has set my tangential mind racing. Is there to be a potato famine soon? Will people then seek to make money out of potatoes, upgrading their potatoes to those of King (Edwards), but without ever using them for their main purpose, i.e. eating them?

    I freely admit that I've bought my house as a home, not an investment. Should the price collapse, it won't affect me, though of course it will many others. Should it rise in value under my ownership, again it won't affect me, but it will many others. I admit that makes me "lucky", or at least tranquil.

    However, the point of this article, like most others on the Fool sites, is surely to suggest ideas that those reading can then take up and upon which they can do their own research. As it suggests investigating a correlation, I think it succeeds in its aim. If people feel there's an ulterior motive, then it implies they disagree with the observation. Fine - but surely they don't believe staff journalists here have the power to move mountains? That negates their observations rather more than any bias, implied or actual, in articles. It's hard enough to do decent forecasting in "normal" times, let alone the current ones, so I'm happy to see more articles like this, suggesting points of view for research.

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  • time2go
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    time2go said

    Given that some articles barely get any comments, at least Cliff has us thinking.

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  • CongoDave
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    CongoDave said

    "Now i know I shoud read the article first but it's by Cliff D'Arcy and

    it involves House prices. Let me see now if it's as biased as i suspect

    or shows any objectivity....I presume serial renter Cliff is still

    renting and waiting and hoping for carnage in the market so he can buy

    for a song to take advantage of another's misery. I shall now read

    it....."

    Wow, I bet you're a really annoying person in real life. You've certainly annoyed me enough to register in order to post this comment. Cliff's article was stating nothing other than the correlation between unemployment and house prices. You are clearly a home owner and sadly for you house prices are still massively inflated. Mass unemployment, a lack of mortgages, wage freezes, people being forced to take days off or work for free. Let's face facts - not many can afford to buy houses at the prices they are now and things aren't looking good any time soon. Take a look at the historical graph for house price boom and bust at www.housepricecrash.com - recoery hasn't happened in the past the way you think it might do now. I, for one, enjoy Cliff's articles - he makes no secret of the fact that he sold to rent (I rent myself having never bought). Learn to deal with it, staintuneriderzwei.

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  • Amos
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    Amos said

    Chasbmw - there is indeed nothing to stop supply and demand being satisfied at lower prices though this would depend on the extent to which supply exceeds demand.

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  • matchmade
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    matchmade said

    It makes sense that rising unemployment won't help house prices, but just using statistics isn't that useful - economies change, and so do housing markets. In previous recessions, there was a big shakeout of people who had bought a house but couldn't really afford it when interest rates rose. In this recession, more houses at the lower end are owned by BTL landlords, so there is much more property available to rent compared with the recessions of the mid-70s, early 80s and early 90s. Young people and lower-skilled people are reportedly being disproportinately affected by joblessness in this recession, but they are less likely to own property anyway, so they will just down-shift on rentals (e.g. from flats to houseshares) or move back in with their parents or with friends. People in work are not being sacked quite as frequently as before - more employers seem to be offering pay freezes or cuts instead of just firing them, and the Government is discouraging lenders from repossessing houses.

    This is reflected in the odd situation where we are in the middle of a recession but there are very few houses for sale: owner-occupiers are sitting the storm out, and there are few distress sales, just lots of home improvements and extensions. The auction houses are not full to bursting with repossessed properties (yet). BTL landlords are mostly in it for the long term, so they are not selling either. And overall, most people remain in work, and interest-rates are low, despite blatant bank profiteering.

    Will house prices keep falling? There was an interesting nugget in the Halifax's June 2009 house price report about affordability: due to low interest rates, monthly repayments accounted for an estimated 21.6% of average gross household income in June 2009 for existing mortgage borrowers. This compares with a peak of 26.9% in October 2008 and is the lowest proportion of income devoted to mortgage repayments since mid 2004. The long-term average for income accounted for by mortgage repayments is 20.4%. This suggests that long-term affordability is very close now to long-term averages and that when credit conditions ease further, numbers of house purchases should rise significantly.

    I think we are near a bottom now, but the key issue is what happens to inflation and interest rates. At the moment it looks like we might have super-low base rates well into 2010, at which point the economy and sentiment might be starting to improve. However I doubt we will see house prices rises for a long time. It took until 2002 before house prices recovered to their 1989 levels, so perhaps we won't see 2007 prices again until 2020.

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  • LAWR3NC3
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    LAWR3NC3 said

    Query: Is there a Correlation between House prices & Unemployment?

    a) Unemployment takes potential buyers/movers out of the housing market. Fact!

    b) What is the average period people remain unemployed? Query!

    c) What is the average percentage of all house owners who bought/sold each pre-credit crunch year? Query!

    d) How many of those making up the percentage increase in (a) would normally (ie were they not now unemployed) fall into category (c)? Query!

    Therefore: Impact of actual unemployment on cost of housing (for the period of (b) plus 6 months) - infinitesimal.

    Impact on cost of housing caused by fear of: earning less money, losing your job, selling your house for less than you feel it is worth - massive!

     Conclusion: There is a correlation but it is too insignificant to warrant either the original article (.... or this response!)

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  • WunchOfBankers
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    WunchOfBankers said

    The money supply, i.e. the amount of money that exists, doubles roughly every 15 years. The average income is £25k but in 15 years time it will be £50k. If you buy a house now for £100k which is 4 times earnings, in 15 years time if the price remains the same it will be 2 times earnings. Of course this will never happen as such cheap housing would increase demand which is why, over time, house prices will always go up. It's called inflation. The problem is if you keep remortgaging up and releasing equity but if you keep the mortgage the same or pay it down then inflation takes a chunk out of your mortgage. Finally, money is created by debt and real estate will always be considered a relatively safe asset class.

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  • McLeodC
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    McLeodC said

    Please stop using tabloid terms like "good/bad news for house prices". Lower house prices are great news for anyone trying to get their foot on the housing ladder. Inflated house prices are damaging to society as a whole, so are arguably bad news even for existing homeowners.

    It's quite possible to write an article discussing the issues dispassionately without adding subjective adjectives reflecting one's personal interest. Let the readers decide for themselves whether rising or falling prices are good or bad news.

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  • chasbmw
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    chasbmw said

    Wuncvh

    What would happen in a deflationary environment?

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  • staintuneriderzwei
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    staintuneriderzwei said

    CongoDave, you know as much about me as you do about property ! Enjoy these articles do you ? I wonder why when you are a commited renter, looking to buy cheap ?

    No need to be rude you know...

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  • Snotmee
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    Snotmee said

    Blimey - what a bunch of old cynics you are :-)

    Cliff congrats for a piece which I thought was pretty neutral and factual. Anything which can take the emotion and subjectivity out of this has to be worth a try.

    Vested interest declared : I have a son who is getting married soon and wants to get on the so called housing 'ladder'.

    My advice so far has been for him to wait until he can be reasonably sure that the market is as low as it is likely to get. Yes there will always be too many variables to take 2 apparently corellated sets of data and predict future events on that basis. But for some people prediction is important and in this case if the 'science' confirms previously subjective judgements then there may be grounds for believing the prediction.

    Stick at it Cliff.

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  • WunchOfBankers
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    WunchOfBankers said

    chasbmw

    Inflation always kicks in eventually. Besides it is better for the economy than deflation as the latter erodes wealth. All of the BOE's QE is an attempt to avoid deflation.

    In the 1970's a good graduate salary was £2k a year. Minimum wage in 2009 is c. £9k. As wages rise, your mortgage becomes more affordable.

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  • chasbmw
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    chasbmw said

    Another view from Defaqto.Is housing market recovery just temporary?Evidence from the last couple of months has been pretty clear. To begin with, it was bits of data suggesting mortgage approvals were picking up. The pick up wasn't dramatic, merely a modest rise from awful levels, but it was a pick up nonetheless.

    Then evidence began to trickle through that enquiries at estate agents were on the rise. It wasn't a big pick up. It was a merely a modest rise from levels that were awful, but it was an improvement nonetheless.

    Then the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors recorded a rise in sales at estate agents. Oh sure, the sales were still low. But it was a rise nonetheless.

    Then the Nationwide and Halifax began to record rises in house prices. And actually, the rises were far from modest. The Nationwide, for example, has observed rises in average house prices no less than three times in the last four months. And the rises have been impressive too, with a 1.3 per cent jump recorded in May by the building society, followed by a 0.9 per cent rise in June.

    So, is it over? Somewhere out there, is the fat lady singing?

    It is just that it is harder to fathom why. Why, when the economy is in such dire straits, when unemployment is rocketing, and even many of those in work are being forced to accept pay decreases, or alternatively are being asked to work reduced hours.

    The reason is simply this. Demand for property is low, very low, but it is just that supply is even lower.

    And what are the prospects going forward?

    Yesterday, two economic groups made new sets of predictions on house prices. Unlike the Nationwide or Halifax, they are independent of the housing market, they have no special interest in seeing prices rise.

    So, what do they think 2009 and 2010 hold in store for the UK housing market?

    The National Institute of Economic and Social Research said: “In the housing market downturn of the early 1990s there were a number of times when house prices increased (on a seasonally adjusted basis) month-on-month. For one period there was a sustained rise for three months.” It went on to say: “We anticipate that house prices will resume their decline, and will fall in real terms at least, compared with the previous year until 2012.”

    Well, you may recall from the article above, NIESR reckons it won’t be until 2013 that GDP per head will return to the peak level seen in 2008. So if that proves to be right, then it is indeed hard to imagine house prices moving up over that time.

    Capital Economics also had a good look at what lies ahead.

    Thanks to lower interest rates and cheaper house prices, affordability in the housing market has improved. But Capital Economics said: “Given the problems many buyers are still having accessing mortgage finance and the fact that much of the improvement only reflects the ultra-low level of interest rates, we prefer to concentrate on valuation measures such as house price-to-earnings ratios and real house prices. Both suggest that house prices could easily fall by a further 20 per cent to 25 per cent.”

    It continued: “Given the weak economic backdrop and with ever more households finding themselves in low or negative equity, activity is likely to pick up only very slowly. We expect housing transactions to rise from 700,000 this year to only 890,000 in 2010, still 25 per cent fewer than in 2007. Thus, and despite the fact that a lack of stock for sale could provide some short-term support for prices, we think that further substantial house price falls remain the most likely outcome over the next year or two.

    “We expect all regions to see further house price falls over the remainder of this year and through 2010. But valuations look most stretched in Northern Ireland, Wales, the North West and South West, so these regions will record the largest peak-to-trough falls in house prices.”

    It went on to predict that rents will stagnate in 2009 and 2010. But added: “However, with average earnings set to fall, payment arrears among tenants increasing and an ample supply of property to rent, the risks to these rent forecasts are biased to the downside.”

    In all, Capital Economics reckons house prices will fall 10 per cent this year, and 5 per cent next.

    There is, however, a factor which neither Capital Economics nor the National Institute of Economics and Social Research have fully allowed for.

    In the UK, the conviction that house prices always go up, runs deep. When prices fall, no matter if they were far too high in the first place, the Great British public thinks it has spotted a bargain. This is the single biggest factor pushing up prices, and probably explains the underlying reason for recent rises.

    And when we suffer the worst recession in 50 years without this underlying faith in property dissipating, it just goes to show how deep this conviction is.

    The main reason why the housing market boomed like it did earlier this decade, and again in the last couple of months, has got nothing to do with fundamentals. Rather, it lies with this conviction.

    People act as if house prices will rise, therefore they do indeed rise.

    But, it is clear we have got hard times ahead. Taxes will rise. Unemployment will stay high. Pay rises will remain modest.

    The economy is set to improve. The improvement won’t be dramatic, and it will be from terrible, low levels. But it will be an improvement nonetheless.

    But whether that improvement will be sufficient to see life return to the property market, when house prices to income remain high by historical standards, remains to be seen.

    The real test of faith for the Brits with the property market is yet to come.

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  • Amos
    Love rating 0
    Amos said

    "The main reason why the housing market boomed like it did earlier this

    decade, and again in the last couple of months, has got nothing to do

    with fundamentals."

    It has everything to do with fundamentals. The fundamental that prices will always rise when demand exceeds supply. Demand is still there and it won't decrease. If unemployment is at 10% that means 90% are still in employment and earning money. If houses are only selling at 25% of the level of 2007 then that means that sales are at 75% of what was a pretty hefty level. Housing starts are low and won't pick up quickly this will feed into further problems with the supply side eventually. Those expecting to see linear growth have an unrealistic expactation of growth patterns that they wouldn't call in any other asset class. That house prices will drift down is inevitable that they will also increase is also inevitable. It may not be too late to call the bottom of the market but buying in an upwave is much tougher than buying when the market may still have some downside.

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  • MrRee
    Love rating 66
    MrRee said

    Haven't read all the comments ... most are to do with Cliffs motives for the article - that bothers me not.

    The article seems ti indicate that, as unemployment is a lagging indicator, the effects of it will be seen 'in the months to come' .... I don't think that is the correct way of looking at it. A lagging indicator is one which happens AFTER the event!

    Therefore, tomorrows job losses are due to economic problems yesterday.

    The 1989 - 1994 house price crash was different to todays. Multiple MIRAS Tax Relief was ended by the Tories in 1989 .... so, prices exploded in 1988 - therefore in 1989 everyone who wanted to buy had bought. Lack of buyers equalled lower prices + lower Tax Relief meant lower prices too!

    The risk to house prices today is wage freezes, also the inevitable increase in Interest Rates.

    We must not under-estimate the effect a small increase in Interest Rates will have on the property market. Due to a 1/2% base rate ... even a 2% increase will increase some debt payments FIVE times.

    Add a pay freeze to that and it is clear that house prices are going nowhere! Soon.

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  • AbogadoNZ
    Love rating 3
    AbogadoNZ said

    If readers really want to attempt to get seriously mathematical about what is after all just variable regerssion analysis it is importaant to remember to include ALL the variables and then start from a date that does not just fit with your hypothesis but is neutral. Then we need to take account that the the coefficient will look LESS robust the more variables we include. One factor that is very hard to express mathematically is supply and demand; the first we can quantify but the latter...

    Even without the benefit of a formulaeic approach there are a number of immutables; Migration (domestic and international), demographics, building starts, unemployment, interest rates, rental figures, inflation, land prices, regional factors, wage inflation, average wage to average house price, risk acceptance, mortgage type, ROI timelines, FTSE returns etc etc. Whichever way you look at it is highly complex. The likelihood is most of us will never see a return to the lunatic greed driven rises of the 80's and price stability may still be long way off.

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  • XrayEye
    Love rating 8
    XrayEye said

    (quote)Nevertheless, the recent large jump in joblessness makes me worried any recovery could be weak and short-lived(quote)

    There is NO recovery and there won't be (previously I've stated 'til at least next year') now til at least 2011 thanks mainly to govt and BoE meddling.

    1997-2007 house prices massively outpaced inflation see graphs for general UK inflation http://www.inflationdata.com/Inflation/Inflation_Rate/HistoricalInflation.aspx

    and house price inflation (driven by lending, overzealous estate agent valuations and too many greedy ignorant pyramid-scheme-like homebuyers) http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/graphs-nationwide-percentage-change.php

    The BoE should not have rewarded homebuyers and punished savers now that the market is trying to put itself right as this just extends the suffering for more months/years.

    Home owners did not need this free money, they knew what they could afford and had planned their expenditure before making the big decision of buying property.

    Those of us saving up to waiting buy were for this, house prices were going up faster than we could save thanks to the drongos jumping on the greed bandwagon. Now we should be catching up hand-over-fist ready to be the next lots of buyers but our now due large (compared to inflation) interest payments have been diverted to homeowners and we have been kicked where it hurts by an ignorant Robin Hood.

    Still wondering whether to take my money and run, find a country that appreciates savers. Apparently I have to spend my money before I can receive benefits. Great! Pay taxes for years, save up like crazy, do without lots of things then this. Homeowners on the other hand don't have the value of their paid up deposit taken into account, yet I have to eat into mine. Grrrrr.

    Meanwhile at the age of 45 I'm back living with my mother to cut back on expenses until the construction industry recovers and house prices slowly get back to a realistic level.

    One last thing: Is LoveMoney going to do a houseprice recovery topic EVERY week for the next 2 years? It's starting to get boring telling the same thing week after week after week when it's obvious there's going to be NO CHANGE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

    So change the record until at the very least the next annual deadcat bounce of 'Green shoots' that will undoubtedly appear again next Spring! Please?

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  • WunchOfBankers
    Love rating 2
    WunchOfBankers said

    A house isn't an investment, it's a home. If you can afford one, buy it and live in it. In 25 years time it will be worth more than it is now. If you can't afford one now, go to night school, get some qualifications and get a better job.

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  • Bobski
    Love rating 20
    Bobski said

    Went to Uni

    Got Degree

    Got fair job (not in banking unfortunately)

    Earn above average

    Still not enough to move up the ladder in the SE

    Serves me right!

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  • maryj
    Love rating 1
    maryj said

    Wunch

    The problem is most people who cant afford a house have already been to university and have good jobs and still cant afford to get on the property ladder. This says to me house prices are still overvalued and have room for falls that equal what we have already seen. I want a house as a home not an investment but it needs to be affordable and homes certainly are not affordable at present. I will be happy to rent forever if prices do not come down more (quite unlikely) as i want value for my money.

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  • peepobaby
    Love rating 49
    peepobaby said

    It takes a leap of faith to believe that house prices and unemployment rate are correlated. if you had performed the same correlation up to 2001, you would never have predicted the 01-04 or 05-07 booms. house prices are more tightly linked to the amount of borrowing facilities and the rate for borrowing rather than unemployment rate. if the market was flooded with cash for cheap mortgages tomorrow, house prices would rise even in time of falling employment. thats what the government's whole mortgage lending thing is about. that its failing is another matter.

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