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10 tips to avoid cowboy builders

Neil Faulkner
by Lovemoney Staff Neil Faulkner on 19 August 2011  |  Comments 7 comments

Make sure your tradespeople are Indians, not cowboys.

10 tips to avoid cowboy builders

"When I asked you to build me a wall I was rather hoping that instead of just dumping the bricks in a pile you might have found time to cement them together. You know, one on top of another, in the traditional fashion." Basil Fawlty  

Which? recently conducted a survey finding that perhaps 2.5m people have had a dispute with their builder or decorator in the past three years. Which? doesn't say how many people it surveyed so, if you read my recent article The dangers of surveys, you should know to take the figure with a pinch of salt. However, every industry has its cowboys and clearly the building trade is an industry. 

Up near where my family lives there is a firm of Asian builders with the slogan on their vans: "You've had the cowboys, now try the Indians." So here are 10 tips on how to get the Indians, not the cowboys:

1) Get several quotes 

Always get several competitive quotations from contractors, suggests Kinleigh Folkard & Hayward. Which? says: "Get a signed contract that fully sets out the costs, the work to be completed and start/completion dates."

2) Be clear about what you’re paying for

Which? suggests you: "Reach clear agreement with the builder as to what work they will and won't be doing and set a price for as much of the work as possible. Where you can't set a fixed price for the whole job, try to limit the circumstances in which the price can be increased and get agreement from the builder that, if extra work is necessary, they will let you know about it and agree a price with you before starting."

3) Sign a contract

For larger projects, Which? recommends: "Consider using a professionally drawn-up contract. There are a number of standard contracts that you can buy, for example from the Joint Contracts Tribunal."

4) Choose a busy tradesperson

Rated People writes: "Cold-calling builders aren't real builders. Good and reputable builders are always busy builders, so they don't have time to come asking you for work in this way."

5) Assess the appearance of your tradesperson

"Always check his appearance," Rated People recommends. "His van will probably be unmarked and it's more likely that he won't look smart and professional."

6) Be suspicious

Rated People continues: "He'll be really eager to quote quickly and cheaply without even looking at the area or job he's quoting on. He might say that he's doing you a favour or that he has spare materials left over from a previous job that he can use which will save you money. Don't listen to him as it will not ever save you money to employ a builder like this."

7) Check your tradesperson’s qualifications

"Check they're a member of a professional body," Which? recommends, and Kinleigh Folkard & Hayward concurs: "Always check that contractors are members of the relevant trade associations, e.g. anyone replacing a boiler needs to be ‘Gas Safe’ registered, otherwise you may have problems insuring your property." 

Rated People has a different take on professional bodies: "There are government and private initiatives set up which work to reassure the consumer, like 'Trustmark', but if the builder you're working with isn't a member of a private federation then this doesn't mean they're disreputable nor does using an official member guarantee that you'll get a quality job done."

8) Get personal recommendations

"Don't despair though," the website continues. "There are lots of great builders out there and the most certain way you can find a good one is to go for a personal recommendation or ask to speak to their previous customers and see their work." 

Kinleigh Folkard & Hayward says: "Never, ever accept a quote for a large project without first seeing examples of a contractor's work. Any competent tradesman should willingly give names and addresses of satisfied customers who, if genuinely satisfied, will show you the work and give a first-hand endorsement." 

Which? adds: "Another great way to ensure that you avoid the cowboys is to get a recommendation either from friends, family or your architect (if you've employed one)."

9) Get an insurance-backed guarantee

"Ask contractors for an insurance-backed guarantee of the work," Kinleigh Folkard & Hayward recommends. Such an insurance usually protects you if there is shoddy work to fix and the business stops trading. 

However, I'm not sure how many tradespeople will offer you that, even if they're very good. Furthermore, since other things can go wrong, such as a dispute you can't solve when the tradesperson stays in business, I suggest a better idea might be to pay using a credit card. 

If you pay for a project costing £100 to £30,000 on a credit card (or even if you just pay a deposit of £100 on the card) you can get all the disputed money back from your card provider in the event that the work completed is unsatisfactory. Read more in Why you should borrow to buy furniture.

10) Pay on completion, not upfront

Kinleigh Folkard & Hayward writes: "It is imperative that you do not pay a contractor for any work or materials up front but only upon completion of the project, or in agreed stages, to ensure the quality meets your expectations." 

Rated People says: "Dodgy builders will never commit to a specific schedule and will rarely sign anything or give you a receipt. They'll ask for payment in cash up front. Never ever agree to paying in full up front as a good builder will be able to cover the cost of their materials easily or with a small contribution towards the full amount. Make sure any payment you make is only 10% of the full amount." 

Which? adds "Request a written schedule of when payments are to be made." It adds: "Don't go for the cheaper option of paying in cash, rather than a properly invoiced job that may include VAT." 

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  • TBoneBod
    Love rating 12
    TBoneBod said

    Wise words indeed, I own a small building company in East Yorkshire and have done so for quite a number of years now. I now ask all potential clients if they'll just be going for the cheapest quotation. If they are, I simply inform them that I won't bother wasting their time, or my own. Why? Because calculating the cost of a job is a time consuming business; doing the job correctly within the agreed time and managing all the other trades is time consuming. And time, for the client, is money consuming.

    If a job is to be done properly, by qualified and experienced tradesmen expect to pay more than "the cheapest quotation" I have a large and varied client base and most new work comes from their recommendations. I have a website and a Facebook page - everyone's on it, so I may as well be! But most work still comes word-of-mouth.

    The work schedule is detailed and the customer knows exactly what they're paying for - down to the size of timbers and depths of concrete - it's not difficult, though a little time consuming; but this is for my benefit as well as the client. If I can do it, anyone can. So make sure you know exactly what you're paying for; there may be legitimate extras, but at least you'll know why and a good builder will give you a costing of what any extra work may be - before they actually do it.

    And I never ask for money upfront. I request payment at the end of the job - and when the client is happy with everything; including the fact that we've cleaned up!

    There are a lot of rogues out there and it does make it difficult for conscientious builders. But we are out there, just make sure you find us...

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  • Extremist
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    Extremist said

    All this depends on the definition of a "Cowboy" - to me it means someone who was never going to do the job in the first place, a con-man, a chancer who blags the work from under the noses of real tradesmen. These days, you have to be pretty stupid to employ one of those, though I guess that there are still people falling for the old "Oi've got some tarmac left from another job, would you loike yer droive doing, sor?" line. Stupid is as stupid does.

    These cowboys are criminals, and should be hunted by the relevant authoritites, police, trading standards, HMC&E and the Inland Revenue, and hammered out of existence.

    I fear, however, that this article could apply to any tradesman who has a dispute with a client, and that's not rare, IMHO. Today, people expect the world, for free, and they want it installed this afternoon. If not, you must be a cowboy and are obviously pissing people about. Not so, not always, anyway.

    If you want to avoid having a nightmare with a tradesman and turning him into your own personal John Wayne, you need to be communicative BEFORE the job, not spit the dummy when they are not working to a Challenge Anneka schedule (unless you have both agreed such a schedule first). Be realistic about what small firms can do, and take into account genuine unforseen problems (like a certain electrical wholesaler who tells you something is in stock, then when you sell it to your client, tells you there's actually none in the country, they are awaiting delivery...)

    An unreasonable client can turn a perfectly competent, genuine builder into a "cowboy" by being a dick, interfering, changing their mind etc, once the job is well under way. Sometimes this can be worked around, other times it's just not possible. You make an enemy of someone who will decide he wants nothing more to do with you, not even to finish off a job properly.

    Sometimes it's less stress, money and time, however unprofessional it may seem, for the builder to simply leave your job forever.

    Small firms do talk in the local wholesalers too - "Hey Dave, I saw that bat-shit crazy woman from the High St has had you round. Kitchen downlighters is it? Yep, thought so, you want to be careful mate, she messed us around something chronic. I'd leave now if I were you mate..."

    Good tradesmen want clients who know what they want, can tell them beforehand, will stick to agreements and pay on time, yet who can appreciate problems beyond the builder's control - they DO happen, genuinely. There has to be some give and take from both sides. The advice to do your homework and check out previous jobs etc is sound, and if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. None of this should be a revelation to anyone with a spot of common sense, rather than someone who thinks they can get an extension done for £2k because their mate on an internet forum says so.

    Good call there TboneBod, I also avoid the people who want the lowest possible price, simply because no matter how low you go, there will always be someone else whispering in the client's ear that they could have done it cheaper. I can't work for people who are constantly hovering around telling me that such and such materials cost far less from Screwfix. There's a good reason for that sometimes!

    I'm never going to have a Ferrari from charging top whack, but I need to ensure a job doesn't end up costing me, there is a cut-off point, and I have to get reliable materials, and build in a little for contingencies, and to make sure the job is finished 100% to client satisfaction.

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  • Iamcoldsteve
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    Iamcoldsteve said

    My parents had a house built in the large garden of their old house, to their own design and were very happy with the outcome. It is a very nice house indeed. They did their homework, employed a reputable builder and got a quality job for a price they were willing to pay. Could they have got it done cheaper? Probably, but would the quality have suffered? Probably. Their only issue was with a plumber sub contracted in. He basically had an argument with my dad about something fairly minor when he nipped round one day. After he said to my dad, basically who the F are you. My dad calmly said, the person who is paying for this job. A quiet word with the builder (Craig Wells of Mansfield), and a new plumber arrived the next day was extremely good.

    So, it does pay to do your homework, see some previous jobs, agree exactly what is to be done, by when, how much, and the payment terms and stages. I would say that it is rarely a good idea to go for the cheapest quote.

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  • sludgeguts
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    sludgeguts said

    My parents had some cowboys build an extension, about 17 years ago. the quote came on headed notepaper complete with relevant logos - FMB, FENSA, VAT number etc.

    Trying to check them out was a real nightmare. My local trading standards refused to comment, saying they weren't allowed to recommend and nor were they allowed to so much as cough if I mentioned the name of a dodgy builder - and yet the first thing they said when things went wrong "you should have talked to us first..."

    And back then, the internet wasn't what it is now so I had to make lots of phone calls - nobody was allowed to give information about the VAT number because of the data protection and the same story came back from FMB and FENSA.

    What is needed is a website dedicated to shopping the cowbays - forget all this human rights cobblers, what about the rights of those that get stung, just because they trust someone shouldn't mean they are easy pickings. And everything on a tradesman's notepaper should be easy to check out with a couple of quick phone calls "hello vatman, is this guy registered...?" Hello Fensa, is this guy a member? Any complaints?"

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  • oldhenry
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    oldhenry said

    The best way to choose a builder is by word of mouth. Get recommendations and see the work tht they have done.

    I had a builder some years ago that was not the cheapest quote but was local and I saw his work. He also did many jobs that were grant aided by the Council so had not messed tham about.

    He did the job well. At the end he was keen to get off to the next one which is fair enough but I only paid in stages as significant parts were finished.

    Keep you eyes open to see loacl work being completed and ask teh house owners afterwards what the job was like. Picka few though as some people do not get on with builders etc as they change thier mind all teh time.

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  • hopefultom
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    hopefultom said

    Another important point to make is,if you are selecting a contractor ( of any kind ) at random,do not consider anyone who only has a mobile phone listed.

    I am probably not allowed to specify the type of person to whom I refer,but they probably choose not to have a landline connected to their caravan because they do not want to be traced after doing the job.

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  • sludgeguts
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    sludgeguts said

    The industry has suffered a lot because of certain telly programmes, more and more people are overlooking the small locals and opting for the larger companies.

    My neighbour had a loft extension done by a company from North London - so that's a 70 mile round trip each day - and 2 vans each time. How can that be a competative quote? As it was, the builders did damage to neighbours the other side AND the work is still not fully completed (some shingles missing & no sign of them being done anytime soon! - 6 months now!).

    Surely here is an opportunity for a good builder who is retiring to take on 'project management' of jobs - to act as advisor, mediator etc. - but not charge stupid money.

    I don't mean they should be there all the time, watching everything - but to pop in as and when.

    He could offer a 'ballpark' figure for a job, based on his many years experience, and even offer suggestions. When the quotes come in, he could cast an eye over them to see which are too good to be true & maybe oversee the work as each stage is completed & advise the owner to make part payment. The builder is paid for each stage of work - provided it is to spec & a decent job & the owner knows each stage is OK.

    Got to be worth 2.5% of the cost? £500 added to a £20k project? Maybe even 5% on a large project? Peace of mind plus advice on tap from an experienced builder, has to be worth it.

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