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Young People Are Losers!

Cliff D'Arcy
by Lovemoney Staff Cliff D'Arcy on 23 October 2008  |  Comments 22 comments

The future looks pretty bleak for Britain's young adults, with everyone under thirty in for tough times. Here's why.

This week, the Governor of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, and the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, both warned that UK is heading for a recession. One definition of a recession is when the economy shrinks for two quarters in a row. The UK economy didn't grow at all between April and June, and it's sure to have shrunk in the past quarter. So, we're well on the way to meeting the generally accepted definition of a downturn.

Given the scale of the problem (largely caused by rampant borrowing and reckless lending), it seems likely that few of us will escape the coming financial hurricane entirely unscathed. However, one group for which I feel particularly sorry is the latest generation of adults, say, those under thirty. In my view, these people will suffer most as a result of the problems building up in Britain. Here's why:

1. The debt disaster

For several years, I've warned that no good would come from lending to anyone with a pulse. Alas, unlike previous generations, young people today have grown up with the idea that debt is somehow normal and acceptable. Thanks to a lending bonanza by the banks, student loans and tuition fees, and a desire to `keep up with their mates', the under-thirties have grabbed more than their fair share of credit cards, personal loans, and so on.

Indeed, the under-35s have so much personal debt that their net wealth (their assets minus their liabilities) is zero. In other words, they owe as much as they own. Alas, thanks to the banking collapse, debt is getting more expensive, plus there's less of it to go around. Thus, after the biggest borrowing binge in history, young adults are going to find themselves seriously credit crunched.

2. The savings strike

Early this year, the savings ratio (the proportion of our take-home pay which we save) was at its lowest level since 1959. With this ratio at 1.1%, we now save only one pound in every ninety. In 1992, the savings ratio hit 11.7%, or more than ten times higher. Thus, in a nutshell, saving has died a death in this country, and young people have missed out on one of life's most rewarding habits.

3. The housing horror

Nationwide BS and Halifax report that house prices are down around an eighth (12%) in the past twelve months. However, despite this slide in house prices, they are still way above their long-term average in relation to incomes. In effect, the housing boom transferred trillions of pounds of housing wealth to older homeowners, at the expense of the young.

Alas, for the foreseeable future, buying a home is out of reach for all but the most highly paid and financially secure young workers. As banks rein in their lending and mortgage ranges are slashed, home loans are being granted at lower multiples of salary. Also, lenders are insisting on a decent deposit being put down -- often a tenth (10%) or more. Thus, until house prices come down to a sensible level, most young people will be priced off the property ladder.

4. The growing government debt

In order to prevent widespread financial meltdown, the government has lent or invested in the region of £600 billion to ailing banks. Also, at public expense, it has nationalised two building-societies-turned banks, Northern Rock and Bradford & Bingley. In addition, government spending is racing out of control and could exceed tax revenues by £70 billion in the 2008/09 tax year alone.

Although the economy grew for sixteen years in a row until 2008, the government didn't put enough (if any) money aside in the good times. Now the bad times are here, our budget deficit is causing the national debt to rocket -- and today's public-sector borrowing is tomorrow's problem. Thus, the burden of servicing this mammoth debt will be borne by today's young people. They face higher taxes, declining public services and, possibly, lower standards of living than their parents.

5. The pensions pain

Today's young workers will not enjoy the guaranteed final-salary pension schemes of which their parents were members. These expensive plans have been replaced with cheaper, less attractive money-purchase schemes, where returns are lower and workers bear all the risk. Thus, today's young folk will be forced to work longer, retire later, and put up with lower pensions. In addition, the state pension age will rise to 68 by 2046, making young people wait an extra three years for their reward.

In summary, consumer capitalism has gifted prosperity to many previous generations. However, the UK's deep-rooted structural problems mean that the under-thirties face an austere and uncertain future. When later generations realised that we killed their tomorrow the better to enjoy our today, they are sure to say `enough is enough'. So, I'm aiming to get on the good side of British youth well before the revolution comes!

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  • jenniewb
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    jenniewb said

    its all looking good then?!

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  • DonaldTramp
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    DonaldTramp said

    Add to this the massive decline in North Sea production of Oil and gas. Production peaked in 1999 and is now declining about 10 percent a year. We can no longer support ourselves with gas (think about 40% needs to be imported now) and Oil is going the same way. In the next decade massive amounts of our countries wealth will be transferred to oil rich countries.
    Oh and the governments tax take is going to decline massively. North Sea Oil has been balancing the books for decades for UK plc and that period is coming to an end.


    Also the public sectors "bulletproof" pensions are going to be a massive burden going forward. This is in a time when most people aren't providing for themselves but they will have to fund other peoples pensions in the future. The numbers are going to be huge.
    See this article in the Telegragh,

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/liamhalligan/3224494/Public-sector-pension-reform-must-go-further.html

    "More than four-fifths of state workers get a gold-plated final salary pension on top of that – worth another 20 per cent of their wages – compared with less than a fifth in the private sector.

    State spending on public sector pensions will still grow by 40 per cent by 2028 – way more than spending on the NHS and long-term care services all of us can use in old age. Now you tell me that’s not selfish."

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  • Luniversal
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    Luniversal said

    Something's got to give. Why are the media suddenly plugging "assisted suicide" every chance they get? Because the young and productive are being mentally prepared to kill off the old and sick before they become too much of an actuarial burden.

    And the private-sector-employed majority will be gunning for the parasites of the civil service and local government who nag and bully and spy on and "harmonise" us, persecute us for clinging to our ancient traditions such as Imperial measures... then demand platinum-plated rewards for their "working" lives: total job security followed by bombproof pensions.

    On top of which, economic immigrants are bleeding this country (see MigrationWatch for the true costs of them and their families) and making the hard-working, thifty, independent-minded bourgeoisie of Britain strangers in the land of their birth.

    Savers are being offered lousy, less-than-real rewards even now, while politicians continue to dance attendance on borrowers and try to righ the inflated housing market for one more round of boom. But the old black magic of fiat money won't work any longer.

    The final demands to pay for over 60 years of self-indulgence, apathy and dependency culture since 1945 are starting to flood in-- printed in lurid red.

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  • 6percent
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    6percent said

    I recently started my first job and I think the timing is perfect, I had a bull market to develope an interest in and a positive experiance from equities and now i'm getting money just as prices are falling.
    Maybe you think Warren Buffett was a looser for starting at similar times?
    I think it is a credit to young people that we have taken on debt at the perfect time: cash was cheap and the rich poor divide is growing so leveraging into educatsion was a very positive move.

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  • DAQ80
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    DAQ80 said

    The housing question is a bit more complex. In general in economic terms rising house prices transfer prosperity to those with assets from those without. Falling house prices may be very good news indeed for those non house owning under 35s as it will allow them to afford considerably better quality housing than they could a year ago. However anyone say in their late 20s or early 30s who recently bought into the market is indeed likely to suffer negative equity and potentially payment shock as their mortgage resets after fixed terms.

    The most egregious problem is the vast and growing government debt which will have to be paid off with future generation's taxes. As a notable newspaper said about George Bush but which could equally be applied to this government: "it's not immediately obvious that tax and spend is worse than not-tax and spend" because ultimately all spending must be paid out of someone's taxes, whether it's those alive and receiving the benefit now, or those who will have to work it off in the future.

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  • Staintunerider
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    Staintunerider said

    This article reminds me of the fellow on Dads Army, you know the one , the scottish one shouting, we're all doomed ! Doomed I say !

    However regardless of the tone(and there is too much doom and gloom coming from the media), there are some things I agree with. But money is about to get even cheaper if they slash interest rates I never thought they would go below 3.5 but there is every indication they will ! 200k at 550 interest only a month anyone to buy a small house (in the south east). Don't want to buy, rent instead 1000 pounds please ! But the author is correct you will need a wodge for the deposit.

    This is going to fire up buy to let and the general property market again. The govt knows it and regardless if there is enough track further down the line, this train is getting up steam again folks !

    As far as goverment debt until we get rid of Labour what can the average Joe do about this ? Pensions yes we have been robbed(me too). Question is do we in the private sector want to hang around in this country being taxed to death to pay the pensions of Public sector workers ? Make your choice ! My own idea is as soon as i get older and my earning power diminishes or i get a better offer somewhere else, I am out of here and i don;t think i'll be alone. I am 43 but if was a graduate I'd get the hell out, France Germany, Spain Canada Australia... make no bones about in a couple of years the brain drain will speed up and the cream of this country will be looking at the options that EU passport offers us. You need a viza for Oz etc but not Europe, we have choices !

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  • madvalentine
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    madvalentine said

    The problem is, is that I expect most of the people in this young category, like myself, are probably the most financially astute, who do try to save etc.

    Agreed that emigration waves look likely as we look to go to places where we (and more imporantly, our children or children to be, I don't have any and wont for a while yet) will have better futures.

    I am very glad that myself and my partner have our education out of the way and that we have experience and jobs. I would worry more about the next generation, that havent got to that point yet. Both my partner and I benefitted hugely from fee-free education for those in poor families (plus student loan for living, but I worked and paid mine all back very early). We did our MScs on grants (from private companies/local council(!)) too. I wonder if that will continue.

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  • avent123
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    avent123 said

    Regarding this artical , I would like to tell you about my Family. I have 2 kids under 35 and 2 under 25. I'll start with the oldest. Son 1 . Untill recently he had his own repair company , This has now folded due to the credit crunch. No one wanted anything repaired.He is now in debt because he tried to keep going. He lives in a council house with his family and is in danger of being evicted if he can't pay his rent arrears. Unemployed at the moment , looking for work. Daughter 1 . Has bought house with husband. Fixed rate ending this month and have to find new morgage. Can't ever have children as can't afford both house and kids even though both in work at the moment. Son 2 . Recently out of work , looking for a new job. Son 3 , both he and partner working. Partner just escaped redundancy and he works in retail so has uncertain future. one child and just holding thier heads above water.So I can say with experiance that the under 35 age group have a tough time ahead.

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  • ParanoidListener
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    ParanoidListener said

    Here we go again. The Aristos, sorry, I mean the bankers and politicians have seen the tumbrils and the guillotines and are running scared.
    So what do they do.
    They get the ignorant peasants, that's you and me folks, to blame each other for the mess. Anyone, they don't care, as long as they can divert attention from themselves.
    So sons and daughters are persuaded to blame their parents and grandparents and any other peasant they can be conned into believing is getting something for nothing.
    What is worse, judging by this blog, they are succeeding

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  • CJMiller
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    CJMiller said

    Staintunerider said:
    if was a graduate I'd get the hell out, France Germany, Spain Canada Australia...

    I sympathise, but do you really think that France or Germany will offer you a lower tax rate and better demographic profile than the UK? And the Spanish property market is crashing even harder than ours. The rest of the EU seems to be in just as bad or an even worse state than us!

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  • manuelp12
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    manuelp12 said

    Why so bleak?
    I was born at the end of '45 when the country was bankrupt, in hock to the Americans, helping to support a ruined continent with huge problems of inequality and a half developed welfare state. Many millions emigrated and yet the baby boom generation is now thought to have had a gilded life.
    The country picked itself up and worked hard to develop what we now have. To many of us the last few years have seemed surreal -the ease and cheapness of credit has looked increasingly like a disaster waiting to happen and now it has. Not a moment too soon some would think.
    We must stop the moaning and get on with putting things to rights. Some will feel severe hardship and many never having experienced it before will think the end of the world has come. It hasn't. The welfare state will protect the unfortunate from the worst ravages of the downturn. No-one will starve or become homeless.
    We need to learn from this financial disaster so that things are better regulated for the future but the next time a crisis occurs it'll probably come from a different direction and again we won't see it until it's upon us.
    I understand people are very anxious, I am too, but we must keep it all in context. It has been worse before though not for a long time.

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  • AlexInCornwall
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    AlexInCornwall said

    Even those suppposedly "bomb proof" public sector pensions are slowly disappearing, contrary to media spin. Six years ago a new starter in the civil service scheme could look forward to a final salary based payout starting at age 60, all for contributions of 1.5% per month.

    Now they get a career average based pension (more weight given to lower earnings in the early years of working), have to wait till 65 and pay 3.5% per month - still good by most standards but you can see the way it's going.

    Also an optional money purchase / defined contribution scheme has been introduced which will doubtless become the only option for new starters one day.

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  • wpannuitant
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    wpannuitant said

    The gains accruing to property owners are a result of the reckless borrowers. You can't blame the banks for not giving a sucker an even break. But take heart. The borrowings can not be repaid in the present climate. So what is the answer?
    INFLATION. That allows everyone to clear their debts pdq and the game recommences. Everybody wins. Property owners see appreciation. Borrowers debts shrink. The only losers are those with cash assets or on fixed incomes. In a change of economic climate those caught in the interim period are the losers eg those being repossessed now before inflation gets going.

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  • matchmade
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    matchmade said

    I think there's a wall of professional buy-to-let money waiting to come into the housing market when prices and interest rates are lower. At the moment BTL is quite simply unaffordable in most areas of the South-East, because 75% LTV and 120% rental cover for the mortgage interest just do not work. In particular, rents are too low compared to the cost of capital: there is a massive subsidy going on whereby tenants do not cover the cost of capital employed. Landlords are accepting zero interest, or indeed negative returns now, on their embedded capital, in return for the prospect of future growth. Anyone with money to spend is sitting on their hands waiting for the mortgage markets to improve and for prices to come down. The same goes for most buyers, consequently prices are plunging on very, very thin trading (look at the number of mortgages being completed): no-one can find a buyer, and the desperate drop and drop their prices to find a buyer eventually.

    If I were an investor with cash, in 6-12 months I would be looking to pick up repossessions for renovation or letting out, and driving hard bargains with desparate owner occupiers who are unable to sell.

    If I were a first- or second-time buyer, I would therefore be anxious not to miss the boat as we near the bottom of the slump. This is always hard to estimate but if you hear of BTLers and other professional investors returning to the market, that's the time to act if you can afford it. Even if you do suffer another 5-10% drop, you'll still be catching the market near the bottom and it will come back up eventually.

    It will be interesting to see if the long-term outcome of the slump is a significant fall in the number of people owning their own homes: if BTLers, housing associations and property unit trusts have the capital and get in early, young people will be squeezed out and we'll have many more people forced to live as long-term tenants, as on the Continent. This need not be a bad thing: instead of wasting money on a mortgage and property maintenance, they will invest their free capital in pensions, cash savings and the stock market and bonds, again as they do in most of the rest of Europe.

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  • Kitxp123
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    Kitxp123 said

    I'm 26, wife's 25.

    Recession...What Recession?
    Life is good.

    My opinion is that those who lived to close to the cliff edge are now struggling to hang on.
    Those that lived well within there means and had 'buffer' savings and other contingencies in place are feeling no change at all.

    I have many freinds in the same boat as I, wondering what all the fuss is about.

    Great time to invest; Index trackers, below market property, etc.

    This headline should read " Unprepared people are losers"!

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  • gartons
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    gartons said

    What Cliff hasn't mentioned is the scandal of public sector final salary pensions which are paid for by private sector employees.

    Eventually this form of apartheid will have to stop but until then, the private sector is being shaf*ed.

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  • RichieLaw
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    RichieLaw said

    Old people a burden, eh? I'll be a crusty old f*rt in a couple of decades, hopefully: it's better than the alternative.

    And the answer to all you twenty-somethings who don't know how lucky you really are (rant, rant, I'm turning crusty already). The answer: watch that 1970's (back when dinosaurs like Maggie the milk snatcher Thatcher roamed the earth) movie 'SOYLENT GREEN'. The answer's in there. I'm off to the Soylent Green Factory as soon as I can't remember what day it is and why I'm in the supermarket. If I can remember where it is.

    Don't-worry-be-happy-and-don't-listen-to-the-doomsayers-in-the-media-whose-fat-salaries-and-big-fat-pensions-depend-on-panic.

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  • HoxtonBoy
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    HoxtonBoy said

    Yes there is no reason for young people to be despondent. You can rent a decent place to live - why tie yourself down with mortgages while you are young anyway. You can work your socks off for 20 years and make a success of your life, then you can buy yourself a decent house. I lived in a council flat until I was 27 and didn't buy a house until I was nearly 30. Be optimistic, work hard, study, save, don't get drunk more than once a week, you'll do fine. The older generation aren't going to get those pensions anyway - a future government will be forced to renege.

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  • Nickipenaluna
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    Nickipenaluna said

    Well said Manuelp12. I was also born at the end of '45. My parents ran a small business and lived from hand to mouth but worked hard and only spent what they could afford. I grew up with that ethos and I hope I have instilled it into my own chidren. We all worked hard, had low salaries, only bought what we could afford and saved for what we couldn't. We didn't complain because there was no alternative. Credit was very difficult to get. I remember the bank manager who turned us down for a mortgage. He wanted to know what 'this meagre amount of money' was that came into our account every month. It was my full-time permanent teacher's salary!!!
    Life has become too easy for a lot of young people who have been allowed to spend beyond their means. A great shame. I personally believe that a little hardship is very character building. It makes you stop and think carefully. I have been hard up, close to bankruptcy, and at times wondering how I was going to meet the next round of mortgage and electricity payments, but we were resouceful and carefull.
    Now - well I'm retired, have a sensible little nest egg and live in SW France. BUT I still have pay UK tax!!!!

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  • Oxygenate
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    Oxygenate said

    Well, Kitxp123 , is obviously sitting pretty having a well paid secure job obtained without the need to know spelling or syntax. Must be in a bank?

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  • FooQueen
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    FooQueen said

    One of the reasons the public sector workers are always given for the comparitively low salaries is the pension; but new entrants get a much worse deal, and the final salary schemes will die off with the older public servants.
    It is no longer 'a job for life', and I joined under various terms and conditions and I don't see why these should be varied at a point in my life where it is far too late to do anything about it.
    I had no burning desire to join the civil service, it was simply the first job I was offered so I took it.
    Anyway, as I always say to people who reckon teachers have so good with their holidays: why aren't you one then if it's that brilliant?

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  • eftpotrm
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    eftpotrm said

    Still can't agree with the statement that the government didn't put away money in the good times that the Conservatives have been endlessly peddling recently and which the writer has repeated above. The national debt as a percentage of GDP is remarkably ordinary, far better than the US or many other large European countries and is significantly lower than in 1997 excluding Northern Rock depositors, who are hardly a realistic inclusion in the figure for comparison purposes and coming of the books in the longer term. And while we've got a budget deficit, again as a percentage of GDP it's _half_ what it was in 1993 under the Conservatives.

    By what standard is this being a poor steward of Government debt?

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