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Watch out for this phone scam!

Published 7 October 2009 in Get the best deal

Half a million households a year fall victim to landline mis-selling – make sure you aren’t one of them!

It's said that a recession brings out the worst in people. That certainly seems to be the case with scammers and crooks.

Only a couple of weeks ago I wrote about the sharp rise in mobile phone identity theft seen this year in Don't get caught out by this new fraud. And now a new type of scam has been exposed, once again involving communications. This time it's landline mis-selling.

BT has launched a new campaign, alongside the Trading Standards Institute, to raise awareness of the scam and call on Ofcom to show some teeth and fight against the scammers.

How does it work?

Landline mis-selling is essentially switching which phone company a customer is registered with, against their wishes.

There are various subtle techniques employed to do this, such as getting the customer's signature or agreement by posing as a different provider, or convincing the customer to sign their name in order to 'get more information'.

However, even more cynical techniques are also rife, particularly 'slamming', where consumers are switched completely against their wishes. Indeed, on occasion this happens without the customer even being aware of it - they only realise what has happened when they receive their bill.

How big a problem?

Now, I had never heard of landline mis-selling, but it is clearly a pretty significant problem. Half a million Brits - that's one in every 40 households - fall victim to the scam each year, according to Ofcom itself.

Indeed, for BT alone, more than 800,000 of their customers have complained of being duped in this way.

The proposed answer - pin codes

The campaign from BT and Trading Standards has suggested that the best way to prevent customers being scammed would be to give customers their own pin code.

Whenever you want to switch provider, you call your existing company for the code, and then pass it onto the new supplier. Only once they have the code can they take you on a customer.

However, there are some pretty serious flaws with this idea in my view.

First of all, it's not as if your existing company will hand over your pin code without a fight. Chances are you will be put under all sorts of pressure to stay. Also, even if they do eventually get your code out of them, inevitably it will not be a straightforward process - it never is when trying to leave a service provider.

And it's not exactly convenient is it?

My final problem is that, in some cases, customers agree to sign up only to, say, broadband services, but then find out once they get their bill that they have also been signed up to calls as well. How would having the pin code prevent this from happening?

I'm not sure it would.

How to protect yourself

Until the authorities come up with a more feasible way of preventing firms from getting away with this, there are a number of things you can do to guard against falling victim to unscrupulous sales people from phone firms.

  • If you do get a call or visit from a sales person, always insist on getting their full name and company details, or to see their identification badge. If they are vague or evasive, be sure to keep asking until you are satisfied with what they have provided.
  • Keep a written record of the time, date and content of any calls or visits. Also be sure to ask for a contact number for their organisation.
  • Never give out your bank details to verify your identity.
  • Always ask as many questions as necessary about the price you will be paying. If you are unsure, or need more time to think, get the salesman to post details to you.
  • Make it very clear if you are accepting or refusing an offer, or whether you are simply waiting to receive more information. It is your decision and you can take as long as you want to decide if you want to move.

If you have already been scammed

If you have already been caught out by these sneaky firms, there are a number of things you should do.

If you receive a letter from the new company notifying you that you are being switched over to their services, call both your previous company and the new firm to explain what has happened. If you do this within 10 days you should be able to put a stop to the changeover.

You should also contact Ofcom immediately to register a complaint.

Ofcom has form for acting against firms that are found to have 'slammed' customers, with enforcement action carried out against a number of firms including the Post Office, Axis Telecom, Economy Calls, Lo-Rate Telecom and Unicom.

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Comments

Gladhand said

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Unfortunately it isn't just with phone lines. I spent the weekend with my wife's grandparents sorting through their various services, as they had been scammed on landline, broadband, SKY insurance and utilities. They're 86 and 90. The companies and individuals targeting the vulnerable should be ashamed.

SannaLar said

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I've been scammed by npower. I explicitly asked the salesman if they would switch me and he said no - which was of course a lie.

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I would like to warn people about Primus Telecommunicatios. they would not leave me alone. Kept phoning to ask if i was the bill payer for our phone and telling me i would be getting cheaper bills as from next month (as if i was alread going to get it) asking how this would happen they tried and tried to get me to give them certain details. After about 10 calls from them i threatened to report them to OFCOM or even the police for harrasment.....Now Primus might say it was not them as the number they called from as not identifiable. But I worry about people like my elderley mother who does not have the ability to give these people short sharp answers.

BritLayer said

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Mine was transferred without my permission, following a member of my household "accidentally" signing an agreement.  I was the account holder and was not asked for permission by either the outgoing or the incoming company.  Unfortunately I was on holiday when the final letters arrived saying it was going to happen and giving me that week to respond.  If the process included getting agreement from the current account owner, this would stop this, surely . 

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I have found npower very good if there is a problem. They are more customer focused now on the other Scottish Power are appalling. Any incorrect sale is erroneos & serious. Try npower complaints team on 01782 843 271 I think you will be pleasently supprised. Scottish Power on the other hand are not interested & their customer charter may as well go in the bin but try chiefexecutivecomplaints@scottishpower.com  & Energy Watch. I have managed to get rid of them after several months & did not pay their incorrect bill ( to get rid ) like other poor soles have done.

penfoldace said

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As an Authorised Distributor for Telecom plus, The Utility Warehouse I would lose my distributorship if I attempted to deceive a potential customer in this way.

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Hell no, I'm not going to lumber myself with ANOTHER pin number or feel I have to make written notes of every phone call I get or cold caller on my doorstep - what kinda life do you lead, to be able to live like that ?

Just cut the crap, and legislate so that when utility and phone companies switch/slam you like this, without the written consent of the account holder, the sales person responsible AND the chairman of said utility company get three weeks in jail. It'll soon stop, and why the hell should their white-collar crime not get treated as the social menace it is ?

hfc53 said

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Essentially this is a comment for Penfoldace. If possible could you contact me as I was mis-sold broadcall by an advisor from the Utility Warehouse. 4 months down the road I have a twelve month contract I can't get out of, engineers all over the place and a service which is, at best, intermittent. I'm really angry and disappointed with the Utility Warehouse and feel extremely frustrated at the amount of time, energy and money I have wasted all because I believed the saleswoman. I understand that this was not a landline scam, butit was a scam, she sat in my home and lied to me. Had I known the truth of the situation I would NEVER have touched them. 

eLJay said

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I would give anyone this advice - say no to any offer and never sign anything.

Usually saying if I wanted it I'd go find out who is doing the best deal with the best service online will generally get rid of them anyway.

Some diversion burglars have the same tactics as door to door sales so another approach is slamming the door whilst yelling - I'm calling the police as loudly as possible (make sure you lock it afterwards).

eLJay said

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I did hear from a thankfully now ex-friend of sales calls where you would be signed up even if you said no, the sellers got their commission before xmas and paid it back afterwards if the person complained.

Simple answer - if you didn't sign up for it refuse to pay and tell them you will happily meet them in Court as it is fraud. Let them come up with the documentary proof of sale, if it doesn't exist or has a forged signature then it's their problem.

Don't forget to complain in writing and charge them for each letter. When it is high enough a charge send the bailifs to their offices and see how quickly they want to stop dealing with you.

MaidenGuy1 said

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My parents had the problem with "Talk Talk" who tried to switch them!! "Talk Talk" complained it was in response to their email to switch, however my parents do not have a computer, email or even an internet connection.

They are forever getting ISP's trying to get them to switch their broadband and mostly they are extremely rude when my parents say "we dont have a computer".

I also had the problem with Tiscali who tried to switch me. They claimed that they were cheaper than everyone else however after some digging on the BT site I found a little know BT package which gives me an unbelievable good deal to Eastern Europe which is where most of my calls go.

madfraggle said

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A simple solution to most of the landline issues is to be with a cable company - if you do not have a BT line most of these companies can't accept you...

That said if I had a credible alternative to my cable company other than BT I would join them like a shot.

This market, as with Water companies, for example, is effectively a monopoly anyway

BigC said

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One possible suggestion would be that the current supplier emails the account holder with a full, yet simple breakdown of all the services that the new supplier claims they have agreed to sign for. This forces the new supplier to communicate with the current one 'before' a switch takes place. If everything is above board, then the account holder will reply to the current supplier with their authorisation, (who should then be legally obliged to comply without prejudice). If any of the services have been 'added' by mistake, then the account holder has the opportunity to query it. If it is a scam, then they simply don't give permission.

This method would allow genuine transfers to take place as well as filter any unauthorised transfers. Also, this method would be more secure than paperwork, because an email transaction would generate an I.P. address fingerprint (which is unique for every computer). Any illegal transfers could be traced back to a single PC.

Perhaps this would discourage the more unscrupulous companies who wish to take advantage of vulnerable age groups. Anyone who doesn't have an email account is more likely to ask a close friend or relative to assist. This would act as an additional safety net for anyone who may not fully understand what service is being offered.

patsangel said

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I have had many phone calls like this and often the first thing they ask is do you have a BT phone line and when I say NO they cut the call off.......So even if you do have a BT line and this call is unsolicited tell them you don't have a BT landline and they won't bother you again. And the same goes for callers at the door and for elderly or disabled people don't open the door just ask them what they want and to put their identity badge up to the letter box for you to see....If you haven't contacted the company then tell the rep that you are going to call the police and the company...If they are reputable it won't be a problem if they are a scammer you won't see them for dust

patsangel said

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For BIGC

IP addresses are often false and untraceble

I have had threatening e-mail and when they were traced by the police they went back to Yahoo and yahoo had no idea who the sender was as the address was false, but had I answered the e-mail I would have cnfirmed my e-mail address and the person sending the e-mail would have received it.

I was told by the police that it was a scam letter and under no circumstances to answer it just to delete it

Arthurian said

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I seem to have got lodged into the Brain of 'Talk Talk' [Of recent BBC Watchdog fame] I have as a result received SEVERAL Sales calls despite being sgned up as a member of the 'Telephone Preference Service'.

British Gas also likes to pester former customers.

Signing Up to both the telephone Preference Service & the 'Mail Preference Service' Should Reduce both CALLS & Junk Mail.

blartbox said

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Don't touch Unicom with a bargepole. If you sign up for a fixed-term contract with them, they will automatically roll you over into another fixed-term contract of the same duration at the end of the term. No notification that the existing contract is ending will be givemn to you. Their justification for doing this is buried in their small print. They will impose massive exit penalties if you try to escape from the roll-over contract. I have asked them repeatedly to justify these penalties by detailing the financial losses that they would incur from my exiting a contract that I did not agree to. They respond with a letter saying that I have agreed to continue being supplied by them, which is simply not true. If Ofcom were other than a toothless dog it would close this company down. Even their competeitors think that they are a disgrace to the Telecoms industry.

Schnurrbs said

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I've been getting a few calls recently "on behalf of BT" - was with them but switched line rental and call charges to Sky Talk. Fairly certain it's not BT themselves ringing though.

Telling them you don't make any outgoing calls on your landline usually gets rid as they can't save you any money on calls if you're paying nothing to start with!!

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