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More Hope For Icesave Savers

The UK government is going to lend £3 billion to Iceland to help UK Icesave customers to get their money back. Here’s what you need to know…

There’s some good news for savers in Icesave this week after the Financial Times reported the final touches are being made to a plan to lend around £3 billion to Iceland so it can repay UK depositors in Icesave.

Many Icesave customers have been concerned about their deposits after the Icelandic owner of Icesave, Landsbanki, collapsed. However, if the agreement between Iceland and the UK goes through, it should help speed up the process of returning money to savers.

According to the Financial Times report, a delegation from the UK Treasury and the Bank of England will arrive in the Icelandic capital of Reykjavik this week to finalise the terms of the loan.

The Icelandic government is responsible for paying the first £16,189 of any compensation claim, while the UK government must cover the difference up to £50,000. In this instance, the UK government will also pay any additional claims of more than £50,000.

When will I receive my money?

This is really encouraging news, but the main question on everyone’s lips is how much longer will it take for savers to finally receive their money?

Frustratingly, it is still not clear and the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) will not be pinned down to a timeframe. According to a spokesperson, the FSCS hopes to return money to customers as soon as possible, but it cannot say how long this will take. The FSCS hopes to issue an update by the end of this week, according to its spokesperson.

If a deal is agreed, it’s important to note it will not cover corporate and government account holders in Icesave. Offshore customers, such as those of Landsbanki Guernsey, will also not be covered due to the lack of depositor protection offered in these islands, as fellow Fool Cliff D’Arcy discusses here.

What about Kaupthing Edge customers?

For those UK customers still waiting to find out what happened to money they tried to transfer from their Kaupthing Edge savings account before the takeover by ING Direct, there is also some positive news.

According to the latest update on Kaupthing Edge’s website, confirmation has been received from Kaupthing Edge’s administrators that all outstanding payments will be released by today (Thursday 23 October) and these are expected to start arriving in customers' bank accounts tomorrow.

Regarding those Kaupthing Edge customers whose accounts are not operated online and did not have their savings accounts transferred to ING Direct, the process of compensation is ongoing.

According to a spokesperson for the FSCS, forms have already been sent out and they are now starting to receive the completed forms back from customers. Again, no timeframe could be given, but the spokesperson said compensation claims would be completed as quickly as possible.

So hurrah, finally there is some positive news for onshore savers and hopefully everyone will get their money back soon. I only wish I had some better news for all those less fortunate offshore customers.

More: Darling Backs Icesave | Where’s My Kaupthing Cash? | ING Still Looks Fine

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PeteB2 said

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spudwood said

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Call me naive - or just hopeful - but does anyone know if any payback regarding Icesave deposits will include earned interest; I guess it could be just up to Oct 9th ish?
Also, as I had an ISA with them, can I invest my annual quota again now in another ISA because technically, the Icesave one is defunct? This could get me interest while I'm waiting for the payout!

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rarn2808 said

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HI,
AS I HAVE ALL MY ISA'S IN ICESAVE ON RECIEVING MY MONEY BACK WILL I BE ABLE TO TRANSFER THIS INTO ANOTHER ISA ACCOUNT,OR WILL I LOSE MY TAX FREE BENNIFIT,THAT I HAVE ACCUMULATED OVER MANY YEARS,FOR EVER.

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This article has loads of answers questions asked by Icesave customers

http://www.creditchoices.co.uk/icesave-savings-questions-answered.html

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MrRee007 said

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Will people STOP whining over whether interest will be paid!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am, and you all should be, glad we are guaranteed to get 100% of our money back!! I spent sleepless nights worrying about my life savings, I thought they were lost .... to now worry and blubber about whether I will get a few £££'s interest is pathetic and selfish in the extreme!!

The darker side of human nature, I guess?

Look at the children dying of hunger in Africa and then come back on here crying about a bit of possible lost interest - take a long, long, look in the mirror and ask yourself what is REALLY important in life as I think you have a very twisted narrow-minded view.

*Sorry, had to get it off my chest - steps down off soapbox*

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Max878 said

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Couldn't agree more with MrRee. I also lost a lot of sleep over my life savings. Just be very, very thankful that we might well get our money back and stop scrabbling for pennies!

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MCMXCIX said

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If I may be permitted to present an alternative viewpoint...

MrRee, you say that:

I spent sleepless nights worrying about my life savings, I thought they were lost

Well, unlike you and Max, I didn't. I made sure I did not save more than the FSCS-guaranteed £35k with IceSave (or any other bank), so when it collapsed I did not have one sleepless night.

On the other hand, if the interest is not paid out, the resulting interest for the time during which I saved my money with IceSave will turn out to be very poor indeed.

I don't think that's whining, I think that's a real-world concern (though, I concede this whole Iceland-banking-collapse fiasco may well turn out to be one of life's hard knocks).

I assume you know how high inflation is at the moment and how fast unspent money is depreciating, even with interest paid?

In fact, whether we get the interest or not - and I can assure you both, it's not "a few £££'s" or even "pennies" - is arguably the only genuine concern.

Worrying sleeplessly about losing a sum of less than £35k was needless, given the FSCS guarantee (later extended to £50k) and putting more than the guaranteed sum in IceSave would have been remarkably foolish. (With a small 'f').

I don't think wishing not to lose money I have slogged my guts out to earn faster than I am losing it already is the darker side of human nature or pathetic, selfish, twisted or narrow-minded.

Perhaps, with all respect, you both need to revise your understanding of inflation and how destructive it can be.

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MCMXCIX said

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At any rate - on the MSE site, the following opinion is given:

How much interest will I get?
All interest that you had earned up until the day of default will be paid as part of the compensation, whether it had already been paid into your account or just accrued. It's unlikely you'll get interest for the time it takes to claim the money back.


So, as I wrote above, this is just going to be one of life's hard lessons. What it does mean is that the quicker we all get our IceSave savings back, the less interest we forfeit and the less money we all lose. (At current rates of inflation, it's going down the plughole fast!)

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Kitxp123 said

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MrRee007

I'm not worried about getting my money back from Icesave as I have complete faith in the system and Gordon's guarentee but I do disagree with your belittling of other people's genuine concerns.

I don't count 7.06% of £70k to be a few £££s.

Particularly if it takes 3 months to get the compensation.

That could be over £1200 gross interest.

I wonder if you would tell a concerned individual with just £1200 in Icesave that they are pathetic and selfish when querying whether they will get any money back.

Another example of a fool on the Fool.

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calufrax said

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The FSCS has already said - several times - interest will be paid up to 8 Oct when the bank defaulted. They've put out statments and said so in person. So the only interest lost is on those days/weeks since that date. That may reassure some readers.

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calufrax said

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One concern is the conflicting reports. BBC News is reporting today similar news to the items cited above from 'Iceland Review' (at the top of this thread) which says talks are stalled. FT though, as this site indicates seems more positive. FSCS are due to update their website soon - they've usually issued updated statements on Friday evenings.

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eschof said

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Update now on www.fscs.org.uk

"We have been working hard to establish a way of compensating retail depositors of Icesave without the need for a paper-based application process. We will be contacting retail depositors to tell them how the transfer process will work and when they can access the system. The automated payment process is expected to be in place in ten days time and the first payments are scheduled to start in the second week of November. We expect to offer compensation to the vast majority of retail depositors in November."

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