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Britain's worst insurer!

Rachel Wait
by Lovemoney Staff Rachel Wait on 17 October 2009  |  Comments 58 comments

We reveal which insurer lovemoney.com readers believe should receive the medal for the worst insurer in Britain!

A few months back we wrote about Britain's worst bank, and I think it's fair to say that it really got you talking.

So I thought it was about time we took a closer look at another kind of financial institution that doesn't rank particularly highly in the popularity stakes, but one that we all have to deal with at some point - insurance companies.

Here are the results of a recent poll of 726 people to reveal what lovemoney.com readers had to say...

The worst insurer in Britain

Let's not beat about the bush here, and let's get straight to the results... According to our poll, the prize for the worst insurer in Britain should be awarded to:

Aviva (formerly Norwich Union)

A 'slow', 'incompetent', 'tiring', 'deceitful', 'unfair', 'dishonest', 'big greedy corporation', which is 'unhelpful', 'intrusive', and 'disorganised' was how you summed up Aviva.

So what exactly is it that angers so many of you about Aviva?

Well, according to our poll, it all comes down to the ease of making a claim. And unfortunately, out of those of you who voted for Aviva, 61% were very dissatisfied with this aspect. Not only that, but the majority of you were also very unhappy about the size of the payout and the speed at which it was paid out.

What's more, 81% of you said you were completely dissatisfied with how the claim was handled overall, with only 3% of you showing any signs of satisfaction at all! Many of you highlighted the fact that Aviva's call centre is based in India as a cause of your dissatisfaction.

And as for Aviva's overall rating, well, more than half of you described the insurer as 'terrible', while a third of you said Aviva was 'poor'. Only a tiny 8% said Aviva was 'ok' and absolutely no one rated the insurer as 'excellent' or 'good'.

Worst of the rest

So we've established that the medal for the worst insurer in Britain goes to Aviva. But which other insurers push all the wrong buttons?

According to our survey, Direct Line is also 'rubbish', 'unfair', 'evasive', 'slow' and 'difficult'. Again, of those of you who rated Direct Line, all of you said it as either 'poor' or 'terrible'. Not a single person said the insurer was excellent, good, or even ok.

Again, the majority of you felt the ease of claiming, the size of payout received and the overall way the claim was handled was very dissatisfactory.

Next in line came AXA - again, every single one of you who rated AXA was very dissatisfied with the way the claim was handled and rated the insurer as either 'terrible' or 'poor'.

Lloyds TSB and the AA also scored pretty poorly in our survey. Lloyds TSB was described as 'clueless, amateur, and expensive'. And every one of you who rated the AA said the insurer was 'terrible'.

Insurance problems

So that's who the worst insurers are, but which type of insurance proved the most troublesome? Well, it seems that claiming for car insurance causes the biggest problems, while claiming for home insurance isn't far behind!

Claiming for private medical insurance, on the other hand, seemed to cause the fewest problems, although this may simply be because fewer people have this type of insurance.

Get it right

Unfortunately, insurance is a necessity and that means we all need to deal with insurers at some stage during our lives.

However, that doesn't mean you have to put up with poor customer service. If you're not happy with your current insurer, find a new one! As soon as your insurance policy expires, hunt around for a new deal with a different insurer. Don't simply renew your current policy out of laziness. Renewal quotes are almost always a poor deal and you'll find a much better deal by simply shopping around yourself.

You should also be wary of any insurers that contact you to say they can beat your renewal quote. These insurers are only promising to beat what is already an inflated renewal quote, and by doing your own research, you're bound to find a much cheaper deal. You can find out more about this sneaky trick in our video, Beating the renewal quote is nothing to shout about.

And to help you with your research, don't forget to check out our range of insurance articles such as 12 tips to drive down your car insurance costs, Eight savvy tips to cut your home insurance, Six steps to cheaper life insurance and 12 top travel insurance tips. Here you can find advice on how to ensure you have the right level of cover so that hopefully you won't run into any difficulties should you need to make a claim. You'll also find some very handy tips on how to keep your premiums to a minimum (without jeopardising your claim).

Finally, don't forget that when you are doing your research you might want to consider whether it's worth paying slightly more for better customer service. After all, if the likes of Aviva, Direct Line, and AXA are offering you the cheapest deals, do you really want to go through some of the problems outlined above if you do make a claim, simply to save a few pennies?

And if you want to share any of your own insurance experiences with fellow lovemoney.com readers, post them in the comments boxes below. Alternatively, why not post a question about your insurance policies on Q&A and get other lovemoney.com community members to help solve your problems?

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Comments (58)

  • Clusters
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    Clusters said

    I have no idea if other people have had bad experiences, but I am with Elephant and they handled my claim two years ago with courtesy, speed and efficiency.

    I always believe that you can only tell how good an insurer is when you claim and Elephant get the thumbs up from me!

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  • peterhoward
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    peterhoward said

    you should try Rural Insurance...like to accept big premiums but when it comes to paying up a different matter!!!!absolute rubbish!

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  • samprice11
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    samprice11 said

    As I was reading this article quoting Aviva as the worst insurer, I noticed a bright yellow Aviva ad running next to the article. I doubt if they'll get many clicks on that link! No real point to this comment, it just made me chuckle to myself that's all :~)

    Keep up the good work Love Money, your articles are much appreciated.

    Sam

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  • GoodBloke
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    GoodBloke said

    With a recent claim for a water ingress problem, I've had a terrible experience with AXA Buildings Insurance. They are truly awful, failing to respond to phone calls, terribly slow to pay up, trying to reduce the claim amount and all this at a time when you need help from the insurance company that you have paid good money to, to cover you in times of need.

    On the other hand, my contents insurers, NatWest, have been absolutely brilliant. The claim was quickly and competently dealt with. I'd definitely recommend them.

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  • nsf
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    nsf said

    You say:

    "Finally, don't forget that when you are doing your research you might want to consider whether it's worth paying slightly more for better customer service. After all, if the likes of Aviva, Direct Line, and AXA are offering you the cheapest deals, do you really want to go through some of the problems outlined above if you do make a claim, simply to save a few pennies?"

    Which makes good sense - but have you indicated anywhere those insurers that consistently provide a decent level of customer service and fair claim handling process?

    It is obvious we can't believe the marketing bull put out by these companies so a poll gathering the experience of claimants in this area would be valuable.

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  • MrRee
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    MrRee said

    I completed this survey and cannot remember whether you were able to extract some positive news about certain Insurers?

    Which Insurers came out best?

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  • Pistolpete
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    Pistolpete said

    This is all well and good, but surely this needs to be more helpful by telling us who the BEST are. Who are the Top 5 good insurers (if there is such a thing)

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  • mgpafitis
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    mgpafitis said

    Equally as samprice11 mentioned, scrolling through this article I find it amusing and annoying that I see an advert for AVIVA insurance on this site offering discounts! Discounts for what the lovemoney readers feel is a terrible claims service...Advertising revenue v's Quality impartial revues ?

    @nsf. I agree, the cheapest is not always the best. Look at the whole package on offer.

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  • fourbees
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    fourbees said

    So agree on Aviva - I live in France and the roof of our house collapsed - still 2 years under the famous diecenale (10 year guarantee) - the roofers insurer was Aviva who eventually supplied an 'expert' to look at the piles of rotting beams and photos of roof collapsing and he came with the result: There was nothing wrong with the roof or the work of their insured roofer! Despite irefutable proof he to refused the honour the claim, obviously there are too many more details to fit in here and would be happy to supply to whoever wishes to know more - so it is not just in the UK the whole company seems to smell!

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  • carefulcath
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    carefulcath said

    Someone should set up a website a bit like EBay's points system for buyers and sellers. I would pay to be a member.

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  • mrHappy2009
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    mrHappy2009 said

    Interestingly you dont mention the companies you surveyed, how many people replied and how you came across them????

    Big companies more often than not get things right, however, with the small % that do end up in dispute go through a regulated complaints process unlike smaller companies and brokers who tend to give in to the customer even if they have lied to get cheaper insurance.

    Interestingly this is what is recommended on many independant site to drive the cost of your insurance down surprise surprise these claims dont pay out or take along time to sort out.

    But if you are that focused on price you can get insurance for under £100 easily on the internet, good luck claiming!

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  • carrotmaster
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    carrotmaster said

    Have to agree with MrRee - the questionnaire was only about the insurers we found worst. Because there was no opportunity to rate more than one insurer, I find the comment that nobody rated anyone as 'excellent' to be more than a tad redundant. D'oh!

    For what it's worth, I had Critical Illness Insurance with Norwich Union and have only praise for the way in which they handled my claim following a heart attack. By way of contrast, Marks & Spencer's car insurance has shown a complete abrogation of all responsibilities. They simply give you a phone number to contact the actual insurer yourself - they just want to collect your premium but do absolutely nothing to justify their commission, other than to put their brand on it. It's shameless and damaging to their reputation - a poor business decision! 

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  • TwitterATcfaproperty
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    TwitterATcfaproperty said

    When considering AVIVA - i remeber my experiences with Norwich Union and they have been on the whole very favourable. We don't insure our vehicles with them but have been the recipient of a two differnt bashes by their insured drivers, one of which wrote our car off and they treated us very courteously indeed, as we were the innocent victims in each case.

    I also claimed for a lawnmower damaged when it went into some water on my Contents policy with them, they handled the claim very quickly and the replacement lawnmower I received was a higher spec model than the one that got broken.

    We insure our vehicles with direct line and again they have been prompt with sorting things out.

    I think there is a fine line between good and bad service and it is in our natures to focus on the glass half empty so much more than the glass half full. 

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  • KateR
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    KateR said

    My son wrote off his car 4 months after passing his test (black ice, unfortunately) and Direct Line were excellent to deal with at the time. And quick to pay up (less than a week!).  My sister has been with them for years, through vandalism to their car in Edinburgh twice and a write-off accident on the M1 this summer, and says she's very happy with their service also!

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  • AdAstra100
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    AdAstra100 said

    With insurance fraud going through the roof, litigation being pursued at every turn by greedy and fake personal claims egged on by consumer web sites (in it for the advertising viz Aviva) and no fee claims companies - what do you expect from insurers? Open arms and being invited for an annual £200 premium to claim at least £2000 per year through an ATM so that you don't feel seen off!

    Get real! We have a society with very little left in the morals department and declining education standards which mean most people under 30 don't (cant) read their contract anyway. Look at the obvious limitations of the people using the comparison sites on the TV advertising. Cutting edge stuff when you can change your level of excess using a slide bar but do half of them know what an excess really means?

    In any case how do do you know what customer service you will receive when you take out cover? What is written in the marketing bull? - not worth the paper (screen) its written on. Price higher must be better service? - you are dreaming. What people in surveys say? Too late and probably involves many other factors, not least the attitude, competence and patience of the claimant.

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  • stevens
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    stevens said

    I can't say I was surprised Aviva is the worst insurer having had personal problems with Aviva. I have also tried to help my parents complain about their Life Insurance policy which they had for over 25 years. Unfortunately Aviva took over the company and added pages of burocaracy to a simple contact and I believe acted illegally buy doubling the premium and reducing the payout by 50% all because both people were now over 60. How many other companies can get away with such high levels of discrimination?

    I don't think this is isolated insurance companies believe they are above the law and can do whatever they like and the saying "Insurance is not worth the paper it's written on" has become a known fact.

    I like to think I am one of many who self insure where insurance is not mandatory. Although it did feel risky in my 20s, but now in my 30s, my funds can cover any eventuality in life. Its great feeling turning down insurance and something I learnt in economics a long time ago. A very big oil company "cannot mention their name" changed the way of doing business by cancelling all insurance policies and self insuring, profits doubled and it never looked back.

    I would like to think Aviva and other insurance companies will look at this survey and take note, but the truth is they will mobilise there gargantuan legal department in to having the survey removed. There is only one way to change the insurance industry and that's money, if enough people left Aviva to collapse this dinosaur, the other insurance companies would fall in line.

    Remember Government, FSA, house of lords, High Court, CIA, FBI ...etc can do nothing to stop them it's up to us. "Avoid Aviva".

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  • celticloki
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    celticloki said

    Very interesting article and it looks like insurance companies need serious work on there claims handling perhaps it's because there all contracted out makes it rubbish.

    I'm going to be devil advocate here but what struck me was that a lot of people were moaning about the payout is this because they are being greedy rather then realistic. I know when I've brought a widescreen tv two years ago it cost me £300 now I can buy bigger and better for £150 so a like for like might be only £100! that puts me 200 out of pocket. (That is based on a claim i made last year. I took the cash settlement and put in £50 quid of my own dosh.

    I'm not saying it's true in all cases but I wonder how many people are just trying it on. I know this happens alot in motor claims I had a bang 4 years ago in a car park doing max 10mph my car had £750 damage his had a couple of scratchs. I was unlucky his tow bar punctured my radiator. Direct line handled it well but the bloke claimed and got payed out £5000 personal injury for loss of earnings, whiplash???? for 10mph and no scratches. Now that is just greedy, the insurance company were daft to pay out though.

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  • Ralph 97 blue
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    Ralph 97 blue said

    I have just claimed off direct line for a simall simple accident. Their claims dept is extremely aggressive. First question was "have you ever had a speeding ticket". I had, 3 years ago and had to pay back dated premiums before they would look at the claim. The other party admitted liability, yet I still had to pay £225 excess which I dont seam able to get back. The comptemptuos way direct line deals with a claiming customer has left me never wanting to have dealings with them again. They are a truly rotten company.

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  • plumbing villan
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    plumbing villan said

    Zurich; my wife's car was badly damaged Aug 13 whilst parked completely legally by a refuse cart. Driver and subsequently supervisor admitted complete liabilty, witnessed by three independent witnesses. Zurich took all details off us within 24 hours, as to insurance, adddress, where car had been taken etc., they had received details from their policyholder earlier or would never have found us!! Promised an engineer would confirm claim and activate repairs. Still waiting for repairs to start as they have only confirmed to bodyshop in the last 24 hours they could go ahead; almost ten weeks. Their costs will be enormous for this accident as 10 weeks of hire car is not cheap. They refused to speak on phone except to person detailed to deal with, eighteen phone calls always rang out!!! Otherwise only allowed contact by correspondence. Absolute disgrace but we have saved on using our tyres and oil!! 

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  • Rutland Don
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    Rutland Don said

    # Stevens - I completely empathise with your battle regarding Life Assurance Policies for your parents. Shortly after the sudden death of my father last year, I unearthed correspondence from his files that he had never shared with us (he was actually quite clued up but very a very proud man) pertaining to 2 Scottish Widows policies (originally TSB Options) for my Mum & him.

    Scottish Widows treatment of an elederly man who had paid a very significant amount into the policies was nothing short of scandalous, and much like your own experience again bordering on illegal. The case is much too detailed to recite chapter & verse here, but after much protracted communications & no little time & stress, I single handedly & successfully had them over a barrel whereby they could not challenge the facts that I cited against them. After much wriggling by them to try to minimise a reasonable pay out, they actually paid a six figure settlement. The settlement was at least some reasonable compensation (albeit still not entirely fair), however my father went to his grave thinking he had been swindled & lost his well intended financial planning for his children.

    Something needs to be done to some these companies abusing elederly & often vulnerable "customers"!!!

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  • Pi1010
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    Pi1010 said

    The comments about the Indian call centres are simply racist, and just highlight that surveys tend to be completed by reactionary biggots with another agenda. Some people work in call centres based in areas with ethnic populations and get abuse from customers even when the call centre is based in say Birmingham. 

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  • tony1968
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    tony1968 said

    Ralph97blue - instead of moaning about paying backdated premiums you should be glad you're not being prosecuted! I think you'll find not declaring a material fact like previous convictions is fraud.

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  • PeterM42
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    PeterM42 said

    So that's why they advertise so much - loosing too many customers.

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  • SiGl26
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    SiGl26 said

    Pi1010 - I don't care where someone is based, where they are from, what colour they are provided they are fully competent and empowered to deliver the service I seek. I object to dealing with any call centre where the inability of the person on the other end of the phone to speak excellent English gets in the way of effective communication.  

    I find this is most often a problem with Asia-based call centres; it is not racist to object to having to deal with someone in the middle of their night (hence they won't be at their sharpest) using a purely verbal medium when their English is poorly constructed and strongly accented. Mind you, I've had problems with call centres in 'Norn-eyerlend' too...

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  • TeamTyrer
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    TeamTyrer said

    I had to claim on my home insurance through AVIVA last year, they sent a surveyor no problem, he found traces of asbestos so instructed a specialist company to remove the damaged ceiling. I was promised that another company would be in touch that week with an appointment to replace the ceiling. It took well over a month to get my ceiling replace, over winter with all my heat escaping into the attic!! Countless calls to AVIVA (in india) got me nowhere and in the end they just blamed the company they had contracted the work to and said there was nothing they could do!!

    On the bright side, I had to claim for a stolen and recovered (but totalled) car through Admiral, they were fantastic. Very up front with time scales, curtious, and fair.

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  • TeamTyrer
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    TeamTyrer said

    PS: In my opinion the best call centres are in Wales, the accent is not too difficult to grasp, and the people are so cheerful and friendly

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  • NoelWoodhead
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    NoelWoodhead said

    We have insured our house and contents through Norwich Union (now Aviva) for several years and having gone through two major claims involving weeks of multitrade works we would not use anybody else.

    We have had a very good experience with them, finding the company to be extremely fair.

    It just goes to show!

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  • jockblue
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    jockblue said

    I agree totally with the others who have posted above - it's all very well telling us that we should consider customer service as one factor when choosing an insurance company, but how do we do that?

    What we really need is for some personal finance related website to carry out a poll of its readers to establish who are the best and worst insurers and then not only tell us the eye-catching horror-stories but actually tell us who came out best (or at the very least who came out least-bad).

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  • Donna Ferguson
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    Donna Ferguson said

    That's a fair point Jockblue! We will run another poll to find Britain's best insurer as soon as possible. Watch this space!

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  • rumblebum
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    rumblebum said

    After being with Coop insurance for thirty years i gave up because of very high premium hikes.

    I changed to Liverpool Victoria and within a few weeks had a houshold disaster with a leaking water tank whilst on holiday.

    My daughter gave them a call mereley quoting our name and address and what the problem was there was someone there within a couple of hours to repair the leak.

    A few days later the ceiling was repaired and within a few weeks the whole room was redecorated and new carpet fitted.

    No forms to fill in JUST PERFECT SERVICE all the way.

    I stayed with them a few more until I had a VERY high hike in premiums.

    I changed to Saga for about two years until they went absolutley over the top with car and house insurance premiums.

    I now check prices EVERY year and search for insurance for both car and home.

     I am paying less now for car and home insurance than I did 8 years ago and will continue to read motley fool/lovemoney whatever because it ws the fool that realy got me looking.

    And as regarding aviva/norwich union they were fantastic endowment/life insurance until they went public and moved call centres to india.

    Wouldnt touch them with a bargepole after the disgusting payouts I had.

    Any company that moves their call centres out of the Uk and takes a backward step with customer service by moving to india deserves nothing but contempt.

    Take note so called "BRITISH"  Telecom and so called "BRITISH" Gas.

    Thank You for the savings I have made. 

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  • Santa
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    Santa said

    Insurance fraud is so rife that I wonder how insurers make any profit. I overheard a conversation recently between two respectable looking ladies where one was boasting about all the items she has successfully added to a recent claim after a burglary. When talking about it later I found that most of my acquaintances wouldn't hesitate to add at least enough to cover their excess.

     

    We only deal with our insurers when we make a claim so, for most of us, there is no basis of comparison. I used to work for the NHS as a fleet manager and a large part of my job was dealing with vehicle insurance. Much of the fleet was Crown property and exempt from insurance, so I had to settle claims directly, and I certainly formed an opinion of the competence and efficiency of the various insurers I dealt with.

     

    It was pretty obvious that the cheaper end of the market saved costs in several ways. The first was to avoid paying out on claims whenever they could, using any pretext they could find. Second was to delay matters as long as possible in the hope that a third party claimant would give up (significant where the 3rd party was trying to recover an excess from them). Third was to write rude and aggressive letters to try to frighten 3rd parties to admit liability. I could go on.

     

    It was also pretty obvious that people tell lies when they make claims. I often was able to see the accident report from both sides and it would frequently appear that the two vehicles were involved in different accidents. Even allowing for the natural wish of a driver to seem as innocent as possible some of this had to be a complete fabrication. In most cases (in the absence of witnesses) we would eventually agree to split the costs; either dividing the total equally or, more often, each side paying its own claim.

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  • AbuMichael
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    AbuMichael said

    Could you possibly do a similar survey of your members in Ireland. If you ask me, Aviva (Hibernian Aviva, as it is called over here) would still be at the bottom of the pile, eventhough I still have it's shares from when Norwich Union demutualised.

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  • joannakd
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    joannakd said

    I made a house insurance claim for a burst pipe earlier this year.

    I am with Barclays.

    I am changing the brand new wooden floor that I only installed 6 mths prior to the flood. They tell me that a floating floor is part of the contents insurance and a nailed down floor is part of the buildings insurance.

    However, they have now changed their minds.

    Can someone give me a second opinion please.

    Also, they won't explain to me the process 'til after I have paid my excess, but since I am disputing the above definition, the excess is different.

    Stale mate !

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  • plumbing villan
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    plumbing villan said

    It is strange, I have just realised I have joined in this discussion purely because I have and are still having a bad time with Zurich. The trouble with consumer surveys are that, in the main, only people who have a gripe will take part, the happy consumer just goes on his happy way and does not bother to take part. Perhaps I should have quantified my "go" at Zurich with the caveat that I have received excellent service from Lloyds Bank, Direct Line and Standard Life at the times of claims!

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  • ayeitis
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    ayeitis said

    Obviously, only the disgruntled bothered to fill the survey in. I've had a motor policy and a pet insurance with Direct Line for many years and they have always been easy to deal with and paid my pet insurance claims quickly and without fuss. Never claimed on the car insurance, but did have a couple of claims on the legal expenses part of the policy and they were hassle free too. I moved my motor policy last year to the Co-op for financial reasons, but I felt slightly traitorous. To the person who says only racists complain about Indian call centres, I say I speak as I find and I've had nothing but terrible service from them, inaccurate information bordering on negligence (which caused no end of trouble with my computer) and I avoid any company with an Indian call centre like the plague. If that makes me a racist, so be it! 

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  • maisonneuf
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    maisonneuf said

    I insured my car with this company when it was Norwich Union as a student in 1956. i thpught the premium a bit over the top for third party fire and theft and that turned out to be true, as I soon got much better quotes

    Plus ca change.

    !

    Maisonneuf

    ,

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  • Wellsprungalice
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    Wellsprungalice said

    Liking the good-news stories here - always more useful than the 'avoid these people!' headlines.

    Two gold medal performances to add:

    PetPlan, who aren't cheap, but always do what they say on the tin no matter how long the claims go on for

    AXA PPP for health insurance - claims settled promptly, pleasant staff, clear paperwork and only one hiccup in more than a decade of cover (when they cancelled an op having received incorrect info from a dentist, and didn't tell us). Other than that, they have sailed through claims for cancer, back problems, irritable bowel, fibromyalgia, wisdom teeth and miscellaneous lumps and bumps with absolutely no problems at all.

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  • gunscratch
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    gunscratch said

    I insure my car with Direct Line and have never had a problem with them whatsoever. When it came to a claim they paid up straight away with no fuss.

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  • MadMikey
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    MadMikey said

    Interesting! I was with Norwich Union for several years and never had a problem with them. They must have gone downhill since they became Aviva. I did get a home insurance quote from them this year and didn't find them cheap at all...in fact more than twice the price of the company I eventually went for. As For Direct Line they are truely awful. I will now never touch them with a barge pole. They made me feel like a criminal precisely at a time when I was going through the worst time of my life!

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  • Mr Ed
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    Mr Ed said

    Thankyou maisonneuf - your insight into the car insurance premiums of 1956 will guide us all as to who we should insure with in 2009!

    I do wish people would think before posting...

    I've used Aviva extensively, never any bother - I've got both insurance and a pension with them. The Indian call centres appear to do some items, but not all - certainly not when making a claim. Anything else is a fallacy, and smacks of prejudice rather than some decent advice to fellow consumers!

    I'd be happy to use them again - as I would Direct Line. I don't think the name change has made a blind bit of difference - I still get what I want done.

    The survey looks rubbish. Had a problem? Want a moan? Don't fancy blaming yourself?

    Maybe once we'll get something useful from one of these sites, which might inspire some of us to be better with our moan - instead of the usual misery loves company efforts. You've had a problem, so - objectively - they must be rubbish?

    Reality check for some of you. I look forward to the Britian's worst consumer site poster survey.

    Aviva? Fine. Direct Line? Fine. Lloyds? Fine. They're never going to please everyone all of the time, but you'd be better looking at what they genuinely do and don't offer before listening to this tripe.

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  • rlx
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    rlx said

    I wonder if there's any correlation between how companies treat their staff and how they treat their customers? I know from experience that staff at the two worst also describe it as "the worst place they've ever worked"...

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  • Spike120d
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    Spike120d said

    I have to say that a poll of 726 when the company involved has a customer base in excess of 50 million is ridiculous and does not reach anywhere near the numbers to gain a realistic impression.

    As an employee, customer and shareholder I can say without a doubt that this company is doing its best to get it right for the customer and I have to say that unfortunately the customer is not always right. There is a big difference between giving the customer what they want and what they need and this niggles those it affects.

    No, Indian call centres aren't great but they help keep the premium lower and as much as people say one thing their actions are different, the truth is the majority will purchase on cost not on whether it has an Indian call centre or not.

    The company exists to provide prosperity and peace of mind, it also has shareholders to provide for (they provide the money to grow and invest in the future), employees to pay and hopefully make a bit of a profit. I doubt anybody would do much different if they were running a business themselves.

    Please if we are going to slate a company do it based on a valid poll number and realistic data. And I have to say that taking their money for advertising whilst slating them feels a bit two faced to me.

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  • clarke
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    clarke said

    The irony having voted aviva the worst insurer an ad banner for aviva is placed on the page.

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  • suemalling
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    suemalling said

    Well, we - fortunately - never had to deal with Aviva on a claims basis, having ended up with Norwich Union/Aviva not by choice but by takeovers of Commercial Union/CGU. Just renewing with NU was a total pain because their Indian call centre staff had impenetrable accents and could not understand us - nor we them -and premiums were very far from cheap. Cannot imagine trying to deal with them to process an actual claim. We halved premiums by moving from them to companies who had staff we could actually understand! For the over-50's would recommend Saga or RIAS for ease of communication, and Saga for actually processing a claim. Cornhill Direct (also targeting the +50s) have an Indian call centre but more fluent operators and also (allegedly) the facility to route calls to an English call centre if there are communication difficulties.

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  • JackJones
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    JackJones said

    I'd be interested to know how you built your panel of 726 pollees (is that a word?). Were they chosen as a representative sample of the UK population, a sample of those with insurance, a sample of those who claimed in the past 12 months, or a sample of those people who use this website who could be ar**d to take part?? If it was self-selected respondents what steps did you take to prevent multiple entries, fraud by competitor companies etc.?

    Were the results weighted to account for larger customer bases? i.e. it isn't surprising that most respondents named Aviva, because they are huge and have so many customers.  Likewise with Direct Line.

    How many respondents were there in each insurer sample - i.e. was the Aviva result based on 700 people's views or 7 people's views?

    Sorry but without proving a sound methodology on properly conducted research this article is purely a rant and is open to both abuse (by respondents) and refutal by the insurers themselves. If you are going to truly identify who are the good and bad companies you need bigger samples drawn randomly from each potential pool.

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  • JackJones
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    JackJones said

    Maisonneuf - you are giving a view on what Norwich Union was like 53 years ago as if that was somehow a reflection on them today?? Almost every employee of that company today wasn't even BORN in 1956!!

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  • JackJones
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    JackJones said

    SigI26 said " I don't care where someone is based, where they are from, what colour they are provided they are fully competent and empowered to deliver the service I seek. I object to dealing with any call centre where the inability of the person on the other end of the phone to speak excellent English gets in the way of effective communication. "

    So no calling Scottish call centres then?

    Personally I have had great service from some Indian call centres (e.g. Dell) and truly dreadful service from UK ones (e.g. Orange). Conversely I have had truly appalling service from other Indian call centres (e.g. MoreThan) and superb service from UK ones (e.g. Sky).

    What is important to me is whether the person on the end of the line understands my problems and can help me sort them out. The problem is that where the call centre is based is often no indicator of how good they are. Maybe what we should have is a "rate the call centre" poll rather than rate the insurer?

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  • Mr Ed
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    Mr Ed said

    #Stevens - get over yourself man. Have you read your own post? It's all a conspiracy! They'll have it removed to hide the truth! CIA! FBI!

    Collapse Aviva? A UK firm? In a recession? Great, put more thousands of people out of work, and reliant on your taxes. Are you stupid, or just stupid? People like you make me livid - you've no sense, beyond some reeling bitterness for some perceived slight. Typical internet idiot, who gets the under feet of genuine consumers (of which you are not one, as a self-insurer) trying to make decisions.

    Self-insure? Divvy! I'm enjoying my small life insurance premiums - it leaves my funds free to earn me money; and not on constant stand-by should I drop. It sounds like you're making life unnecessarily hard on yourself by your ridiculous stance.

    Great to see some further nonsense on the call centres - like every man and his dog doesn't have some kind of regional or national accent at the end of the phone!

    As for transferring calls back to Britain, every company has that facility - I've never known one yet to not put a customer through to their home location when irate.

    Well, perhaps except Hutchinson Mobile - but those chaps are beyond reprieve, by anyones standards...

    Fair play to Spike for posting - well said. Everyone hates Aviva, but I don't see any other company posting here; obviously they're an evil, insidious organisation who doesn't care. Maybe they're after you, Stevens?

    Actually, they're the only ones I've noticed replying. Anywhere. They used to have a chap called Darren Cornish all over the money forums, who was always useful for a customer in a fix. Which is why I won't be throwing them on the trash heap anytime soon. They make mistakes, but so do I (well, I did choose to sign up with Hutchinson mobile, thus proving I'm only human) - at least they sort them.

    The elephant in the room, of course, is that we're not always right - but we bloody well think we are, and have no problems telling the world; which makes articles like this absolutely useless.

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  • richardbarnes
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    richardbarnes said

    Oh dear I had Aviva for all my insuurance and got so frustrated with them after a catalogue of errors that are with retrospect rather funny. Explaining an accident to some one called "Sarah" who had never driven nor had she heard of a motorway , a slip road nor a roundabout - was... err challenging. As was explaining to "Mark" that a stolen car had been found in a multi story car park - the poor chap absolutely REFUSED to believe me that it ws possible that my car had been forund on the second floor.... well after SEVENTEEN (yes I counted) phone calls I resolved it and got my car back.

    So I eventually swapped... to Direct Line! Hmmm.... not a gialnt leap forward according to you!

    OK who SHOULD I ensure with for car housold & travel insurance?

    thanks!

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  • kinglouis
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    kinglouis said

    There should certainly be a list of good insurers as opposed to a list of bad ones. We recently had a claim on our buildings insurance with Towergate, and it was handled in a courteous and friendly manner and very promptly.

    The money was paid out and they didn't even ask for any forms to be filled in! The whole thing was done over the phone and by email. A personal claims person was assigned, so no call centres to deal with. I cannot recommend them highly enough. Mind you, I await my renewal premium with bated breath!

    On the other hand, my contents insurance is with Aviva. Reading some of these posts and the article makes me wonder if i should change!

    A final note on call centres. It doesn't matter where they are as long as whoever you are speaking to speaks intelligible English, and can understand what you are trying to explain to them. I recently changed from Sky (UK call centre, great service) to Virgin (Indian call centre). Altho I had some difficulty understanding the Indian lady we got what we ordered and on time, so she must have understood me! What I don't like is someone regurgitating a script and refusing to engage in any conversation that isn't covered by the script. BT spring to mind. God that's annoying!

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  • PATM
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    PATM said

    plumbing villan I had the same problem with Zurich. A claim for under £450 took 12 call from me, a registered letter to the Head office & 8 calls by garage to get action. They flat out lied to garage manager & myself saying they had paperwork one day then denyng receipt next day.Inspectors failed twice to turn up. In my case it was finally sorted 8 weeks later when garage repair manager lost patience + theatend to raise problems as a customer service concern with Honda, who use them for rentals ins . Head Office claimed both myself + garage had not contacted them despite evidence in form of phone bills/fax receipts.

     I will never use them again regardless of premium and would advise others to do the same.

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  • stevens
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    stevens said

    Mr Ed,

    I think you have missed the point the FBI, CIA quote was humorous as in their the world's most powerful agencies but would proberly struggle in a legal dispute with Aviva.

    Also everyone on here is entitled to their opinion; I believe we still live in a free country. I was personally relived when this survey was published as you feel like the only person having problems with the Aviva, especially when you see their ads.

    My parents struggled early in life to make those payments and in good faith. Insurance is longer a gentleman's handshake its legal contract built in favour of the supplier. My advice would be never sign a contract without a solicitor reading the document, could be the best £80 spent in your life.

    I just never want to see anyone put through the ordeal my parents were put through. They had a hard start in life and unfortunately are people that believed in the principle of "Trust".

    It will be interesting to see if you're still happy with your low premiums when you get into 70s and the T&C start to kick in from the contract you signed.

    As for calling me an "Internet Idiot". Well I have no intention of lowering myself in some sort of exchange of profanities. I respect everyone's opinion and how they would like to fix the problem.

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  • Mr Ed
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    Mr Ed said

    Erm, Stevens - there was no humour in your post. You were just being a prat.

    They'd struggle, would they? Frankly, you're being ridiculous - and, as you say, everyone is entitled to their opinion; and that one's mine.

    I have no problems with the T&Cs. Unlike many people - your parents included, I note - I read them, and understand them. Having seen a number of Aviva contracts, those of myself, parents and friends, they're no different to any other.

    Ooh, how nasty Aviva must be for all this paperwork! They must be trying to rip us off!!!

    Nonsense. I've no sympathy for consumers who get caught out because they've walked into things well within their power to query or challenge at the time. The Terms state the premium goes up, then it goes up

    If you don't like it, don't take the contract, or question the advice - but blaming the provider is a cheap shot for covering your own mistakes; which makes me question the point of this whole survey over again. Are these really the worst?

    Singling them out for their bureaucracy is pointless. Why not mention the FSA who force the disclosure, or the rest of this ridiculous regulatory regime which makes it easy to build debt (instant decisions online for loans?) and yet that much harder to save?

    So yes, I'll be happy - because I'll still be doing the smart thing, and learning about how this all works, and how best to deploy my money. So I doubt it will be all that interesting for you, thanks all the same.

    But please, don't lower yourself - after calling for the loss of thousands of jobs for a UK employer, on the basis of your parent's inability to read a contract or some lousy advice, I doubt you could get much lower.

    Well, not without doing your back in. What then for self-insure?! Oh, how I laughed. Buffoon.

     

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  • Greatstonedog
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    Greatstonedog said

    We found the Insurance company to be excellent, but there was a lot of trouble with both the loss adjustors and restoration company. This seemed to make the claim much bigger and more expensive than necessary. With of course the increase in cost of insuring subsequently and the "unwritten rule" of being unacceptable to any other company for at least one year.

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  • DarrenC
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    DarrenC said

    Mr Ed, thanks for the mention. I have now left Aviva and am with AXA. I can honestly say that both companies are working very hard to provide a fair and hassle free service for their customers. Insurers are big, complex businesses and claim fulfillment often involves many third parties too (such as motor repairers, building contractors, plumbers, solictors - the list goes on). As a result, things can go awry occasionally, but the one thing you can be guaranteed of in companies like AXA and Aviva are strong customer complaint areas (I have led both of them - presently leading AXA's). If that fails and the customer still feels aggrieved, at no cost, you can go to the Financial Ombudsman. The Insurance company then is obligated to act on the ombudsman's independent decision driven by the regulation of "Treating Customers Fairly". Insurers pay £500 to the Ombudsman for every complaint escalated by a customer so I promise that we work hard to do the right thing for many reasons, that one included!

    If there are any AXA customers reading who have a problem, we are here to help - I cant promise we can sort everything but we will look into it quickly and professionally. darrencornish@axa-insurance.co.uk.

    As for the survey? Well, whether it is 'rigorous' or not - I am listening hard to customers views and each day, week, month, we are working on providing a fair product at a fair price. 

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  • DarrenC
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    DarrenC said

    Oops, Its 'darren.cornish@axa-insurance.co.uk' - sorry. 

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  • sandran
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    sandran said

    Hi I am new on this site, exactly 3 years ago I had a gas explosion in my kitchen the damage went all through the house lifted the roof damaged my NEW windows / door / kitchen / the whole house has been damaged. Aviva were the underwriters Cunningham Lindsey are the loss adjusters !!, still in the same situation they are the worst of the worst been better off putting the money that I pay every month for house insurance into a bank account. so be very careful who you chose for your insurance.

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  • Kevin Pearce
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    Kevin Pearce said

    Aviva........arghhhhh !!

    Why does everything take them 10 working days - I'm trying to cash in an endowment policy and its been nothing but a headache - how many different types of ID do they need and they have to be signed by just about everybody but me.....Customer Service Dept should be called Hang on to your money for as long as possible Dept. Even letting me have an up to date value will take 10 working days

    Googled their complaints proceedure and guess what..........they aim to get back to you in 10 working days !!

    I'm sure we'll get there eventually now that my grand daughters hamster has signed on the dotted line !!

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