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by Lovemoney Staff Cliff D'Arcy on 06 February 2009  |  Comments 61 comments

If you were off sick for months, how would you keep the wolf from the door? This report suggests that relying on state benefits is unwise.

According to new research from Nationwide Building Society, most homeowners would not be able to cope financially if illness or injury caused them to be out of work for many months.

Indeed, Nationwide found that more than three in five homeowners (61%) said they would not be able to survive financially if out of work for six months due to accident or sickness. Workers aged 34 and under were most worried, with three-quarters (75%) admitting that they would struggle to pay all their bills. For those over 55, this proportion dropped to three-sevenths (43%).

A shaky safety-net

On average, homeowners believe they need just short of £300 a week to survive without their usual income. However, the big problem is that state sickness benefits are much lower than this. Employment and Support Allowance (ESA, which replaced Incapacity Benefit and Income Support on 27 October 2008) pays up to £89.50 a week. Given that 98% of those questioned needed more than £100 a week to survive, it's clear that ESA is a desperately weak safety-net.

It's also very telling that workers have no clue as to just how much they would be entitled to while off sick. Almost nine in ten workers (88%) had no idea of how much ESA they would receive in lieu of income. Nevertheless, in 2007, over 2.4 million people aged between 18 and 64 claimed Incapacity Benefit. Of these, four-fifths (80%) were claiming for more than six months, and two-fifths (40%) were claiming for more than five years.

On what can you rely?

So, while long-term sickness may never happen to you, it does affect millions of people. With state benefits alone insufficient to maintain a decent standard of living, Nationwide found that we hope to fall back on a combination of the following:

1. Savings and investments. Almost half (49%) of those questioned would use this cash cushion. Alas, Nationwide also found that one in four of us (24%) saves nothing and less than half (47%) save regularly.

2. State benefits. Nearly a third of us (32%) would rely on the State, but would still struggle to pay monthly mortgage repayments and other household bills.

3. Friends or family. More than fifth (21%) would tap our relatives and friends for cash, but they may also be strapped for money.

4. Insurance policies. Two in nine workers (18%) would claim a tax-free monthly income or lump sum from protection insurance policies.

5. Selling their home. One in six (17%) would consider selling their home to make ends meet. However, falling house prices and the reappearance of negative equity make this a tough call.

Sadly, it's quite clear that -- should the unexpected happen -- few of us have enough cover in place to see us through an extended period of illness. Although we may believe that we could muddle through, it is not enough to rely on the State, family or friends. In reality, the only person able to build a sufficiently strong safety-net is you.

As with all money-management challenges, the best thing you can do is to plan ahead for rainy days. For example, to build your own safety-net, you could look into the following private insurance policies:

  • Income Protection. This pays out a tax-free monthly income if you are unable to work due to illness or injury. For more information on this insurance, read Look After Your Greatest Asset
  • Critical Illness Cover. This pays out a tax-free lump sum on diagnosis or treatment of a number of serious medical conditions, such as heart attack, cancer, stroke, etc. For more information on this insurance, read our guide to critical illness.
  • Payment protection insurance (PPI). This meets the monthly repayments on a mortgage, personal loan, credit card or other debt if you are unable to work due to accident, sickness or unemployment. However, lenders charge extortionate premiums for PPI, so do shop around.

Finally, another option would be to rely on credit to make ends meet during tough times. However, this can be an extremely expensive option, given that a typical credit card charges a yearly rate of almost 18% APR on purchases. Likewise, unapproved overdrafts incur rip-off fees and sky-high interest rates. Remember that the road to financial Hell is paved with plastic cards, so don't become overly reliant on yours...

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  • Klawman
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    Klawman said

    "Alas, Nationwide also found that one in four of us (24%) saves nothing and less than half (47%) save regularly."

    That would be worrying if it were not for the fact that the fall in interest rates is such a powerful incentive to save. Not.

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  • tonytone1
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    tonytone1 said

    Ref the incapacity benefit.

    It is clear that some people have made a professional career out of being long term unemployed. I'm not talking about genuine cases but the parasites we all know. Slash their benefit and more can go to real cases. Job done!

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  • bigdogfan
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    bigdogfan said

    tonytone1

    Slash benefit and you'll hit the genuine cases. Incapacity is a miserly amount anyway - I got £340 a month or thereabouts after my sickness pay from my employers ran out. My other half was working but it was no compensation for the £3000 a month I used to earn!! I and others like me cant afford to be sick but sometimes you have no choice. If you want to hit the parasites then more thorough investigations of sickness circumstances needs to take place and those who know of parasites should report them. I know someone who only used crutches outside of their home but at home managed everything including heavy lifting despite the "bad back". Yes this person was reported but some are so careful and know how to play the system. As a point of interest this slippery customer was also a serial insurance claimant for various injuries.

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  • pdcovers
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    pdcovers said

    Peope can just about EXIST on state benefits but they cannot really LIVE.

    Living to me incorporates my car, my holidays, my hobbies, my meals/drinks out and my not needing to worry just how much cash I have left in my wallet.

    Existing is merely not starving in the gutter but not much more is spite of what Michael (I have a little list) Portillo plus the tabloids and even some newspapers would have had you believe for 30 years.

    That is why I am glad that I spent 39 years (my entire working life) saving in occupational and personal pension schemes before I retired early and that is why more people need to save for retirement.

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  • jheenan1
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    jheenan1 said

    Great article reminding us of the things we want to forget and brush under the carpet. Its easy to tell ourselves, 'This will never happen to me'.

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  • frugaljj
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    frugaljj said

    "Friends or family. More than fifth (21%) would tap our relatives and friends for cash"

    In the past year we have "lent" money to members of our family. Those family members have repeatedly failed to keep us up to date as to when we will be getting this money back. This is not "spare" money, it was money that we wanted to use to (in no particular order) pay into a pension, put to the mortgage and save for a rainy day. It can make family relationships difficult. So if lending/borrowing from family/friends be clear, honest and open and know what you are doing.

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  • Doug627586
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    Doug627586 said

    I lost my job in October 2008. I have been searching for a job (approximately 20 applications per week) ever since. I have recently found out that the DSS are going to cut my benefit, because they believe I owe them £140 from 3 years ago, when my new born son spent 4 months in a critical condition in hospital. They are reducing my benefit by more that 30%. This now means I have £2202.20 per year, to cover my £7644 annual mortgage bill. I had taken out an income protection plan, but as I had only been able to afford this when I started my new job 2 months earlier, and I hadn't paid into the insurance for more than six months, I am receiving no benefit from the insurance.

    Also, because I have worked regularly for most of my adult life, I have been put on contributions based job seakers allowance, the government wont give me any help with my mortgage for 26 weeks (not the new reduced rate of 13 weeks that the government are shouting about, but dont really want to pay out, to help homeowners).

    I am really annoyed that as I have made a substantial contribution via national insurance over the years, but when it comes to me claiming back, everything imaginable is put in the way to make it impossible to claim, even for genuine claimants.

    This is without basic luxuries like food, clothes, and heating.

    I also applied for a Warm Front Grant, to help with heating and insulation costs. I had an assessor come round, who said our loft insulation was inaddequate amoungst other things. When the DSS checked, they had done the same job at the same address a few years earlier, and had completed an update to the property insulations, but to a reduced grade. This means that despite the fact the insulation level is inaddequate for todays targets, they would not be updating it any further.

    Thanks Mr Brown.

    I wont be voting labour in the future.

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  • HenryScottTuke
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    HenryScottTuke said

    The title should really have been 'Living the same lifestyle whilst on benefits'. A certain standard of living requires a level of income. If you haven't got that income you can't have that lifestyle and you have to adjust. I was amazed when one TV report showed a woman struggling to survive saying she had no money left for food, yet she was subscribing to cable TV and had what looked like a new car. What other 'essential' items did she have ? Incidentally 'pdcovers', I managed to run a car whilst on unemployment benefit ( now jobseekers allowance ), and save money in a building society account. Lower your expectations to virtually zero, make the most of what you do have and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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  • temax61
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    temax61 said

    I know of several parasites. One is fighting custody for his son so he can get benefits. He got housing benefits but did not pay rent and was finally evicted with over £9000 unpaid rent. He also caused damage and stole itmes from the rented accommodation. He was successfully sued £2500 for this but is refusing to pay because he is on benefit. Despite all the hype about reporting benefit fraud, the Social Services seem to actually shelter people like these. Genuine people in need suffer with this sort of adverse publicity about fraudsters.

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  • colin106
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    colin106 said

    I'm with you The Democrat - but there are still millions who don't see clearly the awful incompetence and dishonesy of this government.

    The Conservatives will probably get in next time but without a huge majority - remember that about 40% of our people are receiving State benefits of some kind - and turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

    Not sure that the other side with it's rather wimpish policies, it's acceptance of the corrupt and expensive EU, and the fact that it will inherit huge government borrowing, meaning much higher taxation or much lower spending (unlikely) - will do much better.

    Can you say what exactly what they stand for, which is so different from the present incompetents?

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  • hzplj9
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    hzplj9 said

    tonytone1 states that we should attack the people on incapacity benefit. I have been ill with a heart condition for 12 months. As a doctor said there was nothing wrong with me they denied me benefit. (My heart only beats 4 out of 5 sometimes less) I've had nothing out of this government for 44 years of paying. Having to sell all my depleted shares/savings etc to survive. I don't want simpathy I want the bank bosses to give me their bonus(or a couple of quid of it).

    Since October last, the rules have now changed you do not get benefit after 6 months you have to be means tested and if you have any assets at all you'll get nothing from the state.

    Doug627586 is in a similar situation. Nothing after 6 months. You save you get nothing.

    The 1920's depression has nothing on this one!

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  • Nemo666
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    Nemo666 said

    My fathers pointed out that on his street there are 12 men of working age who sit at home on incapacity benefits. His neighbour is on it due to his "sick" wife. Every so often she walks with a walking frame to an ambulance to go to hospital. I have seen her myself though walking around ok, doing gardening etc.

    They have TWO cars (one 4WD) and a lorry that he uses to make cash in hand. He has assest of over 100,000 tied up in antique vehicles - ALL ok per social security as it isn't cash. THey have holidays, big plasma TVs etc.

    What a hard life......... all of the men on my dad's street who are "incapicated" are capable of working. They just prefer to receive substantial incapacity benefits that pay far higher than a job would. It is far to generous and easy to get. And we all pay for it in our extremly high taxes!

    So benefits are too hgh. Indeed let's get rid of these types of benefits as all it has done is encourage people NOT to save for emergencies. That is bad for the economy.

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  • aedh11
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    aedh11 said

    I lost my job in 2007 though ill health and have not been able to work since. I am nearly 64 and have worked with no break in emplyment since the age of 16 including 25 years in the Armed Services. Because I have an Armed Services pension my ESA is reduced (not taxed) from £89.80/week to £39.06/week, less than one days pay per week also I am not entitled to any other benefit because of my pension which by the way is taxed at basic rate and works out at less than one weeks wages at national minimum wage. So my pension is taxed because I recieve ESA and my ESA is reduced (not taxed)because I have and pension. There is no way during my working life could I have afforded these protection plans (if they had exsisted)and if I did have them you can bet your life the Government would have their share one way or another.

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  • amalteser
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    amalteser said

    You keep bashing benefits claimants!

    What about all the tax dodging/avoiding super rich and not so rich?

    And M.P.'s and their 2nd. home expenses!

    They get more in expenses than some families with more than 1 income!

    'Lodger' Smith in home expenses row - AOL News

    http://news.aol.co.uk/lodger-smith-in-home-expenses-row/article/20090207215754806564815

    Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has insisted she has done nothing wrong by claiming taxpayer-funded allowances for a second home while living with her sister.

    Ms Smith said she had "fully abided" by the rules by designating her sister's house as her "main" residence, allowing her to claim payments on the Redditch constituency home she shares with her husband and children.

    But campaigners said her claim - which the Mail on Sunday said totalled more than £116,000 over several years - was "morally questionable" and accused her of failing to set an example following recent scandals.

    The tax-free Additional Costs Allowance, worth up to £24,006 a year at present - is claimed by MPs for the costs, such as mortgage interest and fuel bills, of working in both Westminster and a constituency.

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  • cornishminer
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    cornishminer said

    Nemo666, if you think the benefit system pays more than is needed, why don't YOU give it a try. Run along to your doctor and see if you can first pull the wool over his/her eyes to get signed off, then limp to your local Job Centre and see how much you get.

    Do you think someone who is incapacitated should be confined to ones home without a television or without any form of private transport and pottering in the garden equates to the ability of doing a full time manual job?

    So you can keep abreast of all the 2009 benefits take a look at:

    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/mediacentre/pressreleases/2008/dec/NewBenefitRates.pdf

    Long-term Incapacity Benefit, £89.80, if the people in your dads street are doing all you say on this amount, thay know how to make money go round.

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  • thomaslj
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    thomaslj said

    So Nemo666 thinks benefits are too high? I have been unable to work for 11 moths now. I receive Incapacity Benefit of £301.60 a month. This is for fuel, TV licence, bus fares, food for two of us - everthing basically. Oh, and I still have to pay Council Tax. I have just been awarded Housing benefit - but it is £150 short of my rent. I have already moved to cheaper accomodation and hate where I am having to live but hey! that won't be a problem for long as I will be evicted for non-payment of rent! All I have is my TV as I can't afford to go out. So please don't think we all have it easy on benefits because as far as I am concerned, it is sheer hell.

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  • LateDeveloper
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    LateDeveloper said

    Everyone appears to blame this Government, whereas it was the Conservatives that instigated the type of benefits that everyone gets these days. This after raising a furore in the press about benefit scroungers being paid for their lavish houses, which actually amounted to a few individual cases out of the millions of claimants.

    Getting rid of this Government and putting the Conservatives back in power will change nothing.

    The working public who cry out about benefit scroungers and lets a Government spend millions on a group of so called investigators and advertising per year, are the ones that need to have a taste of what it is like to look for a job and survive on the pittance paid out by the Government.

    If you take the amount shown as what you get, you can reduce that amount buy £2.50 per week straight away if you own a TV, unless you are going to throw it away.

    If you have a mortgage with a SVR then you can reduce that again by another approx £10 a week, since the full amount of mortgage is not paid.

    With ever increasing food prices and eating meagrely reduce that amount down by a further £35 a week. That is over £47-50 a week and is the bare essentials, which does not include things like travel and utility bills and in just the utility bills, and you will see that actually going out to look for work puts anyone in negative equity, and as far as clothing and footwear is concerned, forget it.

    Some really pathetic comments by a few people who have clearly never been out of work for any length of time.

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  • Finnoula
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    Finnoula said

    Nemo666 I couldn't agree more benefits are way too high nobody is meant to live on benefits they should not be a lifestyle choice they are a stop gap subsistence amounts to get buy on until you get back on your feet, if these benefits are soo low why do so many people make them a career, I could quite happily live on £89.90 if I had no rent/mortgage free prescriptions dentist no council tax etc etc £89.90 seems fine to me and would easily cover the costs of food and household bills for one person, what I do not understand is why whingers on benefit seem to think tax payers should subsidise the lifestyle they have when they work sorry it should barely cover food and yes sorry you should have to downgrade your home as tax payers should only be expected to provide the bare minimum standard if you do not like the idea of living on benefits get insurance then maybe things like state pensions we all pay into could be increased and the scroungers would have to get off their back sides.

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  • cbf1000
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    cbf1000 said

    Its a sad fact those who loose their jobs & have a mortgage, Car & normally support them selves get very little.

    The professional scroungers in council houses who claim to have nothing do well.

    Just look at Sharron Matthews £300 a week everything paid for & has never worked in her live. I never understand why we pay allowances above the second child?

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  • rosybunny08
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    rosybunny08 said

    Well said cornishminer!! All of you denograting those on benefits count yourself lucky you are healthy and able to work. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. If you can try and imagine the fear and stress of losing your health, income, dignity and your ability to pay your mortgage. I have no idea if I am ever going to be well again and I have the prospect of living on benefits for the foreseeable future. Am I a scrounger? Perhaps I should go and lie in the gutter and die as you step over me in your well polished heels tutting about how benefits are too high.

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  • jab666
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    jab666 said

    "can you live on state benefits?"

    7 million people do

    example - retire at 60 with £250,000 saved, what noel edmonds calls a life changing sum of money.

    If you could get 3%! thats £7500 pa or £150 per week. Pension credit for single man at 60 is about £120 per week plus rent and council tax paid if limited savings............and benefits increase by RPIX which is 3.9% not 0.9%

    ps worked for DWP for 5 years, country full of scroungers.........

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    Can we just get an important fact right here please - most people on benefits DO NOT get the oft quoted £89.90per week. This is the level for people on long term incapacity benefits and is not paid until about 9 mths after a claim is approved. The ACTUAL level paid is the same as jobseekers - £60.50.

    The difference is that those on JS need to prove they are actively looking for work or taking steps towards this such as doing compulsery courses or improving thier cv etc. However if while on JS they take on a voluntary part time job instead of sitting home all day, or take on a course to improve thier qualifications, both of which will improve said cv, this is classed as making thenselves unavailable for work at those times which can result in a cut or even loss of benefits.

    Sickness benefits on the other hand mean that the person is not able to take on full time work for whatever reason. Not all disablities/illnesses are visible to the naked eye, and some are itermittent so on a goof day someone may be able to walk unaided while needing support on a bad one. And in some cases eg mental health problems, part of the treatments may include getting out of the house and doing some sort of volunteer work as a way of mixing with other people.

    As for surviving and living, you have to live within your means and if that means you have a choice of food or fags, car or bus or walk as you cant afford the fare.............well you do what you have to do with what you have.

    ps - under the tories many yrs ago the amount you got on benefits was assessed by the wages from your last employment so those on a good wage got a lot more than those on a bad one - think that was a fair system?

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  • tdg948
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    tdg948 said

    nemo666 + cornishminer The genuine jobseeker or ill person,has nothing in common with the professional scrounger,and there are plenty,I worked from the age of fourteen never unemployed a single day,retired after working 47 years and paid a lot of money to the state,sadly if I had been a waster and never worked I would be much better off,this town is full of scroungers and they are quite happy to boast of their holidays big tv's and 4x4's and their attitude is we are the mugs for working all our lives.

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  • fastkite6
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    fastkite6 said

    I can't live on pension 'handouts'. That is why I am still working at 69. Four years AFTER retirement.

    I have no trust in Government and absolutely none in banks. 69 years, and this is what I have been taught by those who are supposed to be better than I.

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    Another thing not being mentioned here is that many jobs now are only available via agencies. This means very few people who work for them have permenant work and so benefits are needed to keep them from becoming homeless for those days/week where suitable work is not forthcoming. It may be that they splash out on a new tv or something for the house when they DO get a wage packet as they dont know when they will be able to afford it again.

    I get so fed up of people generalising and believing the cr*p and propaganda put about by prejudiced indivduals and institutions.

    Yes there ARE scroungers out there - my personal bug is that drug accidicts and alcoholics are classed as unable to work but there is no scheme i know of that say they must seek help as part of thier benefits conditions, in the way jobseekers have to prove themselves eligible.

    Those on sickness DO have to provide drs notes for up to 6 mths until the DSS doctor performs an examination to assess how the illness/problem affects the person before they are accepted for benefits officially. And for many it is a temporary thing - it may be they are waiting for medical treatment which will rectify the problem eg an operation. Of course recovery time may be involved as well.

    I think those who are on benefits and can afford these things are more likely to be those with larger families - as a single mother of 1 i certainly cant - we just get by week to week. I do however know of a woman with 5 kids and worked her benefits out at almost £300 a week not including her rent and council tax so yes in her case she would need a very good well paid job to cover what she gets now.

    Another local family has 13 (yep 13)kids - and as far as i know the parents have never worked. Some of those kids now have kids and they unfortunely have become used to the idea that they can get by not working.

    But once the youngest child is 13/14 single parents DO have to look for work as they are not classed as being needed as a carer for a child of that age. Benefits DO get cut if they refuse to

    do so without good reason.

    Yet another family though where the parents have never worked that i know of have a son and daughter - she had a baby at 15 and stays home all the time, he is out working for the council sweeping the streets as a job. There are some who break the mould - even so far as to take on a low paid job im sure many of those complaining about 'scroungers' consider beneath them if they were out of work themselves!!

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    I was born with chronic juvenile arthritis, I worked from leaving school in offices on basic wage, but after having elbow joints and other joints seizing up I have been on benefits for over 15 years now. I have sky tv and I drive a new car, thanks to Mobility Allowance. I am up to the eyes in debt, but I want comfort, I don't have savings or investments, I struggle every week to pay my bills, I recieve £208 a week there abouts, I pay £20 gas £20 electric and £7 a week water, I am paying back a loan to the council at £160 a month for a new kitchen and windows, I pay Home insurance and content insurance, I owe 3 catalogues a lot of money, but as my income is never gonna change, yet things break down and I want to live in some kind of comfort, I use them to their limits. I own my own home thanks to my family all putting together and purchasing me a property so I would be settled for life, my family aren't rich but a nice windfall came their way and they got a bargain reposession for me. I don't claim rent as the house is mine, I have to pay for all repairs, everything I need I struggle to get, with my disability being so chronic I have limited movement a long handled hairbrush costs me £18 a time, I have costs you wouldn't expect. Yet I agree with some of you, there are too many people gettin benefits that are definitely not entitled to claim, the system is a sham. My income will never change unless I win the lottery, but with all my outgoings I can't afford to play, by the way I'm fat cos of steroids not because I am living on fillet steak. I want to go swimming to loosen my joints but even to go swimming costs me £72 a month as I need to pay for a carer to go with me to help me dress and undress and I cannot afford it. I know people who stand in pubs all day on the same benefits as me and are fit as fiddles. The government wants to sort it all out. Living on benefits is not fun, but for some of us it is the only option. I don't know how single mothers cope who do not even receive as much as me, I pity them.

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    By the way I would love to afford a holiday, the last one I had was when I was at school, a night out at bingo costs over £20 and with fuel costs as mobility doesn't cover them, I can't afford a night out, hence the SKY tv, I have to have something as I sit in all the time, oh and forgot about my phone and broadband with bt £130 every quarter. Then people wonder where benefits go?

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    By the way this country wants to start looking after it's own, and stop giving to people from other countries, poland, ghana and lots of other places. Some of us were born and bred here, my grandfather fought wars for this country, my mother and father worked all their lives and never claimed a penny, my sister is a single mum and works, she does not scrounge as some of you put it, my family pay in and have paid in to the system all their working lives, so when someone like me needs help it should be there, I should not have to live hand to mouth to have basic things such as digital tv and broadband and a car, I am unhealthy, not through any fault of my own, I would much prefer to have a job, I would love to get up on a morning get dressed and go off to work, but I know it isn't going to happen, Rheumatoid arthritis is not life threatening like Cancer so not enough funding is put into finding a cure, at the end of the day we all get some form of arthritis, they send men to the moon but cant find a cure for this disease, a disease I have had since age 2 years old.. Please don't class everyone as scroungers, there for the grace of God go you. I should go on Big Brother and make a fortune like Jade Goody and then I would get all the best treatment going, even drugs they won't give to anyone else suffering from the same disease, one rule for one......this country is a disgrace, if I ever won the lottery I would get out of it fast.

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  • LateDeveloper
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    LateDeveloper said

    I would like to point out, that to get that sort of money, a person must be long term ill, and have a medical examination for proof of the illness in question. So those that are on this benfit are not scroungers by any means, and the medical examination done is by Government approved Doctors.

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    It all depends on what is classed as a 'necessity' and what is classed as a 'luxury'. For instance many people who smoke see it as a need - no its an addiction like cocaine and smack and im sure you wouldnt call them a necessity!

    Food is obviously necessary but not fillet steak and smoked salmon. Heating is also a necessity but not so much that you can walk around the house almost naked while it snows outside.Yet this is how some are used to living and find it hard to adjust to the basics.

    For people with disablities extra costs do come in buying specialist equipment - for instance i have a condition which affects my elbows and restricts what i can do. Also as having had this for many years my grip and joints in my fingers are now affected and the day may soon where i will need need invest in gadgets to assist me in everyday things if planned operations dont rectify the problem. Things most people take for granted such as carrying shopping home can be painful and while i can use a shopping trolley this isnt always practical as it has to be lifted up kerb, putting more strain on joints. So it may be that i go shopping regulary for small amounts instead of a large weekly shop i cant handle.

    I dont drive - even if i could actually afford lessons i would not be able to run a car. And bus fares are quite high so shopping tends to be close to home which limits my ability to get the best deals - and theres no point saving £5 on your grocery bill to have to pay it out in taxi fares home as its too heavy to carry!

    But to look at me you would not know any of this as its not something visible. And as problems with elbows as opposed to hands or even shoulders are not so commonplace i see confusion on peoples faces when i try to explain that i cant do certain things or have difficulty doing them. And when i have had to force myself to get out of the house to go to the local shop for basic food shopping due to my depressive state that doesnt show to anyone who doesnt know me well either.

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    Najman said

    Fed up - i wish i was living on £208 a week as do many others on incapacity benefit!!!

    Out of my £60.50 a week i pay almost half of it in fuel bills, i have a teenager to look after, and when our kettle died even finding £5 to replace it was a struggle. A digital tv may be a necessity now that the changeover is due but a car ISNT no matter how it was funded. There are many many people with mobility problems who rely on relatives and public transport to get out and about for whatever reasons, money for some and other because they are of the use it or lose it mindset.

    As for arthritis - there may not be a cure but there are self help strategies and charities devoted to helping with this. The key is you have to help yourself and not feel sorry for yourself.

    If you did ever win the lottery and move away im sure you would soon apreciate what the counrty has done for you via the NHS when you have to pay for even the most basic healthcare that you now take for granted.

    Also bear in mind that british born and bred applies to ANYONE born and brought up in this country no matter where thier parents came from. And migrant workers tend not to stay forever - if people here were willing to do the jobs they take on like food growing then we wouldnt need them.....................

    And since there were many many none british men fighting with the british army in the war which was fought nearly a lifetime ago(the world has changed since then!!!) we cant rest on our ancesters laurels either - we are each responsible for our own legacy and actions no matter what our ancesters did.

    As for using Jade Goodey as an example for 'them and us' in health treatment - i think if she is using drugs not available to us everyday folk she will be paying for them herself, at least in part. Love her or hate her she is a canny business woman who has done the best with her assests ie the Jade persona and made money off the back of it.

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    Najman said

    Just to clarify - i am middle-aged, white with blonde hair and blue eyes, was born and lived all my life in its borders!!

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  • stuartpetergraha
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    stuartpetergraha said

    I think we should switch to the European system, for every year you have worked you get one month of higher paid employment based dole. When this ends you go onto the lower rate long term dole. This way if periodically the working man or woman gets made unmployed they get a decent rate - 50% of average annual basic pay, it would not be more expensive as we have extremely generous long term dole rates. It would shift dole payments to the front end. There would need to be a maximum number of months at the higher rate, say 24 months, to get this you would have needed to work 24 or more years.

    After this period the unemployed would shift onto permanent sick or a job seekers allowance. If the unemployed undertake training for employment they shoudl get an extra allowance or do a recognise voluntary job (meals on meals, helping the elderly ..). This would not take away jobs as these jobs are just not being done today by paid volunteers. As time went on volunteer roles could include tree planting and so on, I am sure that most unemployed who did these volunteer jobs woudl be back in the workforce soon enough.

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  • janesk
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    janesk said

    I have been on benefits for many years due to looking after a child (now adult) of special needs, (Husband couldn't cope, he moved to southern Ireland, so no help there !!)also nursing my Mum & Dad til their deaths. Due to heavy lifting, I seriously damaged my back (The discs are disintegrating)I recently had strokes which affected my memory and left side. I live now on £58 a week. I dont smoke or drink or socialise. Last time I went out socially was on my 40th birthday (I'm 56 now) yes I have sky, and broadband and I have heat at timghtime. In the day I put a jumper on. I only had two living children, and I think that if you want more than three then you shouldn't get child benefit for any others (If one dies then that is not counted by the goverment) Anyone who earns more than £60,000 a year should not get it either. I agree that druggies, alcoholics etc should not get sickpay. If they cannot work due to their addictions, then they should do supervised community work to earn their benefits. There are many community jobs that folk could do to earn credits towards their benefit. People who are genuinely ill, whether long or short term, should not be asked to work without a Drs examination ( A lot want to but aren't fit/safe enough) Anyone that has come to this country without any insurance (Health/unemployment) should have proof of working & paying tax/NIN for at least five years with no claims, if they want to use the NHS/DHSS. If immigation was stopped, then there would be plenty of jobs for community work. If any immigrant commits a prisonable crime then they should be deported to their own country without any argument. This would cut down on benefit payments and free up loads of prison space, houses, & jobs.

    Lastly I'm not a scrounger, I would have loved to have worked but there was no-one to look after my daughter or parents. If they had been put into homes/shelters it would have cost the government hundreds of thousands of pounds a year. (That was all the "help"/advice I got off Social Services over the 30yrs I've looked after my daughter !!)

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    In answer to the middle-aged, white with blonde hair and blue eyes, was born and lived all her life in its borders!! Najman,

    You obviously are not crippled with rheumatoid arthritis, and living in constant pain, where you can't even pull your own knickers up or down to go to the loo as your hands and arms are in so much pain and immobile, every joint in my body is affected, or you too would be on the poultry amount of £208 a week. I have a mobility car that gets me back and forth to hospital appointments all over the Northwest of england as my local hospital doesn't deal with all joints, so I need to travel to and from other areas to be treated. As for feeling sorry for myself, I can assure you I do not feel sorry for myself, I clearly said I do not know how single parents cope as I know I receive more than most, but having said that I have worked, and £208 a week is still not enough to live on, all I do is rob Peter to pay Paul, and why should I not live in luxury? I have digital TV and broadband and a nice home with nice furniture, just because I was born disabled and am on benefits, who says it is only for necessities! I am not on benefits out of choice, you state you have elbow and hand problems, and you have a trolley you can pull around, I wish I had the luxury of being able to walk around shops to get the best deals, public transport is not even an option for me, so a car is my lifeline. Your very lucky no one sees your disability everyone sees mine, as my hands are all deformed and I am stiff as a board, and I think depression is not a good reason to be on invalidity, I know a lady up my street that is on benefits due to depression, she should get herself out of bed on a morning and go to work, she would meet people and wouldn't be so depressed. And as for relying on relatives, I'm 44 years old and all my relatives muck in, I don't ask social services for help which I could do as I am entitled to help, I think I ask my family for more than enough help, and as for them driving me, unfortunately the only one that could drive was my only brother who was murdered back in 2000, so he is no longer here to help me, my mother couldn't go on invalidity for depression, but there are enough people out there that do. and as for helping myself, I do I make sure I get my £208 a week of which I am entitled and also my motability car, once again of which I am entitled, oh and not forgetting my seat belt exemption certificate. And as for Jade Goody, there are many young lasses dying of cancer everyday of the week, why should we be living in such a state that if you can afford the best medicine, you can have it, we are born equal, we should all be given the same chances, what makes her life more important than any other person with cancer, money should make no difference to your health. I would not like to think a cure was found for Rheumatoid Arthritis and because I couldn't fund it - I couldn't have it... I think you are the person with the self pity.

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  • fatfedupand40
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    stuartpetergraha where would that leave the likes of me? Also due to the European System, all the Europeans are over here taking all the benefits from all the people of this country who worked hard and paid into the system, and now they need the help, there is not enough to go round.

    I agree with Janesk regarding people coming to this country having to prove they have paid into the system for 5 years and they should make it like Australia you should have to prove you have enough income to keep you for that length of time, or be refused, this country is too soft. I know of polish migrant workers where I live claiming for wives and children not even in this country, one of my neighbours is investigating them as she works for the DWP and she assures me this is not an isolated case.

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  • aedh11
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    aedh11 said

    Najman clearly has not got a clue about Incapacity Benefit, the maximum anyone can receive is £89.90 if someone gets more than that it is a different or to up benefit paid after a detailed medical examination by a D.W.P. doctor.

    Finnoula you also are misinformed, just because someone receives incapcity benefit it does not mean that prescriptions/dentists/council tax are free. I do wish some of you out there would get your facts straight before passing comment or judgement. Call your local jobcentre and enquire what you would be entitled to if you are taken ill, you might get a big shock

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  • Bluemidget666
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    Bluemidget666 said

    The country is in recession and who is to blame, well those with houses and cars(scarred they may lose one of them) say its the unemployed or the disabled who really could work if they wanted to (in spite of what a doctor may say to the contrary). Even those on disability say its the others on disability that's the problem “people with depression should get out of bed” or maybe its the immigrants taking all the benefit money, if there not doing that there taking our jobs. Everyone blaming the one below but the truth is money floats to the top every time.

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  • Blewyn
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    Blewyn said

    Tonytone1, if you 'slash' the benefits of those who have nothing else, you instantly back them into a corner that they very likely won't be able to get out of, and naturally they will consider turning to crime. You also 'slash' all the turnover of all the companies that rely on the spending of 'scroungers', thereby creating more 'scroungers' and compounding the problem. Currently the goverment are trying to keep the economy afloat, not pull a plug out of the hull when it's already taking on water !

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  • Bluemidget666
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    Bluemidget666 said

    Some people on hear just need to stop reading the Daily Mail....

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  • Kmad5
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    Kmad5 said

    I earn circa £25k per year. I have a friend who is on probably every benefit known to man. He is so experienced and knowledgeable about the benefit system, he could be employed by the DSS. He brags about his earnings/benefits, which if you total everything, including rent, council tax benefits etc he earns £50 less than my net income per month. He is by no means hard up. Yes he has injuries, but none that prevent him from doing anything he wants(except of course when he has a medical review of course). He walks with crutches in public, yet can do heavy DIY / climb ladders...you get the picture. He also seems to have many many more accidents/items losts than your average insurance claimant. He is, I am sure, just a drop in the ocean of professional "sick" people. I feel so sorry for genuine claimants that dont get the benefits they need because of this. When our insurance goes up year on year its because of people like this. When I say a friend, this behaviour has compromised that friendship as I am a hard working and honest individual who feels sickened by this behaviour - especially the bragging about it!

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    Kmad5 said

    PS, another former friend, after splitting from her husband and not wanting to work became professionally depressed. Normally she would be well dressed, make up, nice hair etc. She asked me to pop by on my way home from work and go to the Dr's with her before going for something to eat. I was SHOCKED when I saw her - no make up, hair like a scarecrow and when I voiced my concern she said "its OK I am fine, I have to look like this for the Dr's appointment, plus I only look so bad cause I sat up most of the night and watched movies too, so that I look extra tired - I have to do this to keep the sicklines coming ". She packed her makeup etc into the boot of her car and after the appointment sat in the Dr's car park and applied her makeup/did her hair etc - UNBELIEVABLE. We are no longer such good friends, this made me sick!

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  • makeshiftwings
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    makeshiftwings said

    I have just read through all the comments posted here, and have to say that what is more striking to me than anything else is how judgemental and intolerant people can be. It's so easy to judge from the outside that someone is a 'scrounger' and of course, there are those who take advantage of the system, but for the most part it is hard to know the full story.

    I'm a single Mum, and was on benefits from having my first child at 18 for about 8 years. I wanted to work, but I also wanted to be present in my kids' lives. I didn't recieve any support from the jobcentre advisors - every annual appointment, they were happy to just leave me where I was than give me the support and encouragement I needed to find work that would fit for me. Trust me, getting off benefits is *hard* I was extremely careful with money and managed to save for both myself and my children. But I didn't want to be on benefits, and I had lost all my confidence and belief in myself over those 8 years. I won't bore you with the details, but suffice to say, I managed to get off benefits and into a job which is sufficiently flexible that I don't need to compromise on my kids. I am working and supporting my family myself and it feels great. However, I was given no support from all the people who should have been helping me - if you ask me, more than anything, that is where the system is failing.

    I guess the point is that you really don't ever know the full story, and sadly, there will always be those who abuse the system. Different people have different ideas about 'entitlement' just as it is apparent here that different people have different ideas about what are 'essentials.' As my dear Grandma used to say, the world would be a boring place if we were all the same. Live and let live.

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  • PhilHornby
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    PhilHornby said

    There are a number of universal truths which are variously rehearsed here but worth summarising :

    (a)Real scroungers should be rooted out;

    (b) We should all save anything we can - however small the amount and certainly for our old age;

    (c) We are mad, or deluded, if we believe that a Conservative Government is any form of salvation or less corrupt that a Labour administration - have we learned nothing from 1979 -97?

    (d) Personal responsibility underpins our ability to survive the bad times, and any State benefits are simply a contribution, not a solution.

    OK, I know -this won't be a popular posting!

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  • jegwe
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    jegwe said

    As a male single parent, widowed when my children (now grown up) were very young, I have always worked but have lost my job eight times in the last twelve years.

    I have only ever been eligible to claim Job Seekers Allowance - reduced because I get a small widows pension from my wife's last employer. It does not even cover my Council Tax and is now payable for a maximum of 26 weeks after which I would get nothing. On one occasion when my daughter was studying for her "A" levels I was told that she was was specifically excluded from any payments because she is over 16.

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    My sister is also a single parent, she is one due to her husband turning violent and she and her children are better off without him, but my sister was married and her children were planned, and in the beginning she and her husband worked hard and planned for their children. My sister works hard, and her children go short of nothing, they understand the value of things and know they have to work to get things they want, her husband contributes to the upbringing of his children, which is what more men should do, instead of leaving society to keep them. I do feel that a lot of single mothers do get too much in benefits, they have no reason to work, my sister pays for school dinners school uniforms, bus fares, if she was on benefits she would get all the above free, her two teenage children would have just received a brand new FREE laptop wih FREE broadband connection, also rent and council tax paid, as all the other kids in their classes whose mothers don't work received them. Then the Government wonder why so many people want to go on benefits, from this country and others.

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    I think that people who have children without partners are irresponsible, to bring children up in todays society you need to have money, children want designer clothes and the latest gadgets, they do not want to be the only kid at school without..

    When people say that the Jobcentre does not help them with finding work, it's a bit like closing the gate after the horse has bolted, the job and a partner should be found before these women have children. Society is in such a state due to these irresponsible parents, their children are brought up with no work ethics, they expect to get everything for FREE like their mothers and then when the big wide world hits them, they end up turning to drugs or crime or both, finding a job would be last on their priorities as that is the way they were dragged up. And once again it's the tax payer thats ends up funding them, either for Detox or Prison, the victims of there crimes are left with nothing but usually devastation.

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    aedh11 - please read my posts again- i DO know that the higher rate of IC is £89.90. As i pointed out when people were quoting that figure as the norm instead of the £60.50 basic IC. Those who say they have more than that to live on must have income from other sources such as Disability Living Allowance which is a seperate benefit and not payable to everyone.

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    "I do feel that a lot of single mothers do get too much in benefits, they have no reason to work, my sister pays for school dinners school uniforms, bus fares, if she was on benefits she would get all the above free, her two teenage children would have just received a brand new FREE laptop wih FREE broadband connection, also rent and council tax paid, as all the other kids in their classes whose mothers don't work received them"

    I WISH!!! School dinner may be paid for but i think you will find that everything else has to be paid for from the benefits recieved - and free laptop/connection??? I think you have been fed some propaganda there - or have a very wealthy council!!!

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    Thsi board is veering off course - just a wee bit?? - and has now becoming a fine example of the 'culture of blame' we have today. There are people who while recieving more in benefits than i and many other people on minimum wage had/have as take home pay say they cant live in the style to which they have become acustomed and the debts THEY have run up be it a loan/catalogue/hp deal are not really thier responsibility and they should recive MORE to cover these!!

    This is not what benefits are for! Anyone - including myself - with debts - has PERSONAL responsibility for they ARE NOT the government or taxpayer!

    Also it has become the usual its all the fault of single parents (all pregnant at 15 to get housing of course cos none ever gets divorced or is widowed). If its not single parents then its immigrants, migrants workers, all here to take "our" jobs and even though they couldnt do the jobs if people here where willing to take them - and oh yes - they then have the cheek to pay taxes and national insurance on what they earn in order to fund the benefit system...............

    Who to blame next - the doctors who are enabling old people to live longer and putting a strain on the system as more is paid out in pensions???

    Reality check - we are very lucky to live in country which has a benefits system in place. Its meant to be enough to live on and provide us with the basics we need. If we choose to spend it on catalogues, drink, cigarettes etc them we CANT complain its not enough to keep us in food and heat.

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    Another prime example of the how the blundering fools at Westminster have squandered tax payers money on projects, that would be a good idea if they first sorted out the, oh I don’t know let me think, for starters the level of crime on Britain’s streets or maybe the amount of Homeless people, oh and lets not forget how BRILLIANT the NHS is. Instead of addressing real issues the government has decided to throw £300m at giving children from low income families shinny new computers, with one years free broadband access and three years free technical support!

    I can see why this may seem like a very good gesture on the governments behalf, but come off it, be realistic, if they had thought about things properly they may have come to the conclusion, oh hang on a moment class sizes are far too big at the moment lets use some money to get more teachers into schools so they may accomplish something.

    One of the reasons for this project is that schoolwork is becoming more and more reliant on the Internet. In that case get the children to go to the library to do their homework not only would it encourage them to study more on their own, it would also give them access to another source of information, books!

    Recently I heard about a 59-year-old woman who suffers from rheumatoid arthritis, she had to retire at the age of 47 because the pain was so insufferable. In the past year she has been but on a new drug which she has to inject once a month (similar to a diabetic). The injections have been working wonders and the lady in question can now go on long walks through the countryside, even bike rides. Now the NHS is saying she can no longer have the drug, not due to the fact it’s causing her harm, no they will refuse the drug due to the fact it’s too expensive!!!

    Now correct me if I’m wrong here and I’m pretty sure I’m not, surely helping people to recover from diseases and illnesses is far more important than making sure that every child in the country has the internet available to them at home! I hope they intend to put GPS transmitters in this laptops because I bet cash converters will do very nicely out of the deal.

    Short message to all the highly intellectual people in charge of the country; sort the initial problems of the country out before you start dishing out luxuries like free laptops

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    I have just looked up this scheme and it seem it is only available in 2 areas as things stand. So generally speaking those on low income all ove the land (and this includes 2 parent families by the way) will not be rubbing thier hands with joy at the thought of thier child bringing home a laptop anytime soon.

    Also it would seem to be a grant that would need to be applied for not an automatic handout.

    http://www.publictechnology.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=17375

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    Well I live in Blackpool, which is not one of the areas mentioned, and no one applied for them, the school just picked out the children whose parents received free school meals and free school uniforms, as my sisters children asked why they didn't get one as they seemed to be the minority in the class that didn't receive one each. The teachers said it was for income support families only.... once again the workers lose out... mysister had to get into debt for her childrens laptops so that they could learn, yet the young girl who I mentioned earlier and whose mother drinks and smokes already had a computer in her home and internet access, so another fiddle, for the family. I have heard of other people from other areas getting them also.

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    Well I know for a fact that single mothers on income support get all the above mentioned FREE, I was at school when all the kids were coming out with there new laptops, when one pupil asked me if I knew how to connect her dongle to her brand new HP laptop with FREE laptop bag for her, for her FREE internet connection. This is a girl whose mother drinks a bottle of wine every night and smokes 40 cigs a day and sleeps most of the day, cos she suffers from "depression," looks ok to me when all dolled up going to the club or off to Mecca to play bingo though. The same woman has a daughter of 22 who has children and is on benefits and is suffering from "depression," the apple does not fall far from the tree, so what the youngest one is gonna do next year when she leaves school, is gonna be fun to watch.... probably straight to the docs for a sick note for "depression" and a prozac prescription, BINGO - BENEFITS

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  • t1nyp3rs0n
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    t1nyp3rs0n said

    Kids in school with parents on benefits do get computers/laptop with broadband connection for free najman but this is untill they leave school when the computer/laptop has to be given back to the school so that the hard drive can be scrapped and then the computer/laptop passed onto the next student that needs one

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  • aedh11
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    aedh11 said

    Najman please accept my apologies I did misread your post in the heat of the moment.

    Comment to all.

    On the subject of single mothers, again don't tar them all with the same brush some of them work very hard to bring up their families. As for the one's who make a living from the state, who is to blame, the state itself, a teenager doesn't want to live at home so get pregnant see social services, get a flat and benefits,easy. There are lots round here do it. Most end up regreting it but the dye is cast. On the opposite side of the coin, my granddaughter has worked from the age of 16 and lost her job at 18 so she went to soccial services to help her pay her rent till she started her new job, she was asked two questions, was she pregnant (answer no) was she a drug addict (answer no) sorry we can't help you. What kind of message is this sendings to our youngsters. She's now 20 and works in France.

    Finally I walked into my local shop today and one of our local alcoholics was buying his very large bottle of cider and bragging he had been given a flat and the only bill he had to pay was his telephone from his benefits providing he saw a drink councller once a fortnight!!!!!!!

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    Thanks for clearing that up tinyp3son, I dont think the scheme has been roled out in my area yet and as such i had not heard of it. So basically the computers are not exactly free but on loan for the childs time in education - that does put a slightly different context on things!

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    Apology accepted aedh11. :)

    Another thing to point out is that some employers hear the words 'single parent' and decide they dont want to employ someone for who thier child/ren rather than thier job will come first eg they may not be able to work extra hours due to lack of childcare, or come in at short notice for the same reasons. Obviously what a person can commit to depends on the age of the child but especially in todays climate employers want an added element of commitment from their staff which many - often unfairly i may add - feel a single parent would not be able to give.

    This also goes for people with health problems that require regular treatments and time off for medical visits and various other scenarios. Its an employers market and while not all think like this there are those who do unfortunately.

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  • fatfedupand40
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    fatfedupand40 said

    And i would love to see the statistics of how many get taken back and how many supposedly get lost or stolen or end up on ebay or in cash converters! My sister would have liked her children to have received FREE laptops and FREE Internet Connection for her children as she is only on a low income, but she works for her low income.

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  • Najman
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    Najman said

    Fedup, you seem to have very little faith in mankind. I'm sure the fact that accidental damage/loss/theft etc etc may happen has been taken into account and there will be finaincial penalties in place for those who choose not to return thier laptops.

    Also your sister is not the only single parent out there who works - but jobs can be difficult and hours need to fit in with school times. I worked for many yrs as a midday in my local school for the grand sum of £39 a week. Due to benefit regulations that I was allowed to earn only £20 a week without losing benefits, in effect this meant i actually worked for half the money the other staff got as the rest was taken off any benefits recieved. Pay rises did not affect me - i was still only £20 a week better off regardless. But i enjoyed my job - especially the school trips when i worked the whole day as a volunteer - and £20 is £20 at the end of the day and it allowed us to buy things we may not have been able to afford otherwise. I left to take on a fulltime job in a craft shop - my ideal job - but i had to leave due to some areas of my duties agraviting my health conditions.

    Since I will not be able to to the same type of work again, i have been retaining myself to work in ict and adult education. The work im looking into may end up being part time and sessional or it may be that i end up looking for something i can do from home - who knows.

    But what i am NOT going to be doing is sitting around saying poor me. I may not be able to do things the same why i used to do but i can try and adapt or do things in a different way!!

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    Najman said

    Ok - trying to get this discussion back on topic if you find yourself on benefits or with the prospect of having to live on benefits here are some dos and donts that may help. These apply to everyone - married or single, with kids or without. Granted not all of them will relevent to everyone and many of them you will have seen before but it never hurts to have a reminder!

    DONT expect to hear immediately that your claim has been approved - it can take a few weeks! For this reason try to provide as much paperwork as is asked for as soon as possible.

    DO claim as soon as you need to and keep track of your claim by (politely)asking staff either over the phone or face to face if you have not heard after 7 days.

    DO ask for a reciept and or a stamped photocopy of any sicknotes or other paperwork origionals you need to hand in as a precaution. I find it best to take them along to the office whenever possible so you can say who it was you saw and when.

    DONT get angry with the counterstaff - they are the only frontline of the system and if you explain things in a calm manner will be much more helpful!!

    DO make sure that you claim any medical expenses you may be entitled to eg NHS excemption certificates and travel costs to appointments.

    DO make sure you claim any school meals etc you are entitled to - this can be via the school direct or through the local authority.

    DO make sure you claim housing and council tax benefits where applicable.

    DONT be afraid to accept the help on offer - this is hopefully only a temporary state of affairs remember and accepting help does not make your a scrounger or a lesser person - thats what they system is there for.

    DO go on any suitable courses on offer - this alwasy looks good on your cv and shows you are not just sitting at home doing nothing as the myth goes.

    DONT expect to continue with the same lifestyle. If you are not already now is the time to start living within your means.

    DONT ignore your debts!!! Get in touch with people you owe money to and explain your new circumstances. Alternatively contact organisations like citizens advice who can help you prioritise your debts and negotiate with them on your behalf.

    DO work out a new budget - it may mean cutting back a bit on some areas and being a bit more creative in others. For example if you can walk to the shops one way saving £2 bus fare then thats a couple of food items you can buy extra. Every little adds up! Add a bonus - walking is good for you as well.

    DONT look at getting into debt for household goods - there are decent second hand items out there and the Freecycle network is a great way to get 'new to you' items although it must be said that acces to transport is a must for larger items generally.

    DO try to use the car less. If the school is only a few streets away try walking with the kids instead (obvious but not always done!!) Walk to the shop instead of driving when you only need a few things. Again you will save money on petrol and be fitter for walking.

    And lastly DONT give up. Use the time you are not working to review your cv and improve it, take up a new hobby - even if its only walking the dog more, or reading books you havent had time to when working. When you go for your next interview and they ask you what you do with your spare time this will go down so much better too as they can see you have been keeping mentally and physically active.

    There are so many more things but the key is to reamin as positive as possible. Try to look on it as the old lemons and lemonade scenario. Make it a game for the kids as well - looking for the lowest prices on shelves also helps with maths work and getting preteens/teens to add bits to or adapt clothing aka customising means you save money on new clothes and they get something unique to them.

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