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Eight ways to cut your water bill

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by Lovemoney Staff Jane Baker on 18 August 2008  |  Comments 82 comments

Water bills are set to stretch your household finances even further, depending on where you live. Here's how to beat the price hikes.

Eight ways to cut your water bill

The average water bill is set to go up again this year, with some areas seeing hikes up of up to 3.5%.

And I'm afraid that doesn't tell the whole story. As always, it's a water rate postcode lottery, with households served by Northumbrian Water set to be hit the hardest this year, while lucky United Utilities customers will see a 4.3% bill reduction in their bills.

On average, however, most unmetered bills will now be £361 a year. That's a lot of money down the drain!

Unfortunately, the current system means you are obliged to stay with your current, local supplier - you cannot switch and save the way you can with your energy bills.

Still, there are ways to save. If you're looking for ways to cut your water bill, then here are my top eight tips:

1. Have a water meter installed

To save money on your water bill you will need to have a water meter fitted first. A non-metered supply is subject to fixed costs regardless of how much -- or indeed, how little -- water you use. By fitting a water meter you will only pay for the water you actually use, which means you will probably be more conscious of the amount of water you’re getting through, helping to keep your bill down too.

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Many people find they are better off with a water meter. What’s more, the meter should be installed free of charge and if you change your mind, you can go back to a non-metered supply (as long as you do so within the period specified by the water company. Typically this could be 12 or 18 months).

However, water meters are not always a good idea. Read The smart way to cut your water bill to find out whether a water meter really would save you money.

2. Fix leaks

Dripping taps and leaking pipes and appliances really are money down the drain. You would be amazed how much water is wasted just by letting a tap drip all day long.

3. Energy-efficient white goods

Don’t run your washing machine or dishwasher half full. When you need to buy new white goods go for energy-efficient appliances that use the least amount of water. If you’re not sure, check with the manufacturer before you buy.

4. Don’t run taps when you don’t need to

Don’t leave the tap running constantly while you’re brushing your teeth or shaving. Turn the tap off so you only use what you need. Not doing so could waste ten litres of water alone. And the same goes for washing-up. Use a bowl of water rather than running the tap.

5. Use a water hippo

Older style water cisterns -- those installed before 1993 -- use around 9 to 12 litres for flushing. Put in an easy to fit water hippo -- or other similar device -- and instantly reduce the amount of water you use.

6. Take a shower instead of a bath

A quick shower should use far less water than a bath. But be careful if you have a power shower because it can use more water in five minutes than it takes to fill your bath.

7. Use a sponge to wash your car

Using a hosepipe could easily waste around 90 litres of water in just ten minutes. Using a bucket and sponge to wash your car is far more water-efficient.

8. Keep cool drinking water in the fridge

Store water you plan to drink in the fridge rather than running the tap to get it cold.

Tell us your tips

Got any tips of your own? Please post them using the comments box below!

This article was updated in April 2010 using the latest statistics.

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Comments (82)

  • palexgood
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    palexgood said

    Your right about the water meter. Living alone I saved 60%. However, I've had my meter hugely misread. Utility companies always seem to over read rather than under read,76 instead of 16 by the water company. What's your experience of readings?


    The water hippo may NOT be a good idea. Drainage systems were designed in the days when toilets flushed gallons. If the gradient is not adequate you may suffer blocked drains.

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  • Tonyblue
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    Tonyblue said

    I have had a water meter for many years.I use rain water from a rain water barrel to flush the loo, especially easy if one lives in a bungalow. I keep a supply in old plastic milk bottles. My current monthly direct debits are £6.30.

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  • deckshair
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    deckshair said

    When recommending water meters be sure to emphaise the living alone. It is not so clever when the family comes along or wants to buy your home.
    Anyone else hear radio 4 last week when they stated the UK gets less rainfall than parts of Africa?

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  • LINLEYSHAW
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    LINLEYSHAW said

    Saving water in shower.
    This works only with a cold combi boiler. Run hot tap for a few seconds to fire up the boiler. Wait 10 seconds for the boiler to get up to heat. Then run hot tap till the water is hot. Switch on the shower at this point. Saves cold water and gas.This also works in with a mixer tap in the kitchen.

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  • doloskea
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    doloskea said

    For millions of people living in blocks of flats, water meters are not an option, and we're forced to pay some "average" amount for our water services. So, although I use as little water as possible for the sake of the planet and my conscience, there's actually an incentive to use as much as possible, to ensure I'm getting my money's worth!

    Most toilets I use these days seems to need two or even three flushes to clear solid waste, which surely cancels out any saving from using less water per flush. A more efficient design of toilet would make much more of a difference.

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  • Chrisandrea
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    Chrisandrea said

    Bath with a friend!

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  • eebee100
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    eebee100 said

    Another way to save water is to only use the water that you actually need for your cuppa. Heating the whole kettleful will waster water and gas or electricity

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  • Kitxp123
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    Kitxp123 said

    Water Meters are NOT always the best option.
    As far as I can tell from speaking with freinds and comparing bills households with 1 or 2 people seem to benefit from a meter, however, households of 3+ (ie. me) end up paying more (as I have.
    Jane should really tell both sides of the story before telling all readers to get a meter.
    Also...
    Although I'm not a fan of 'water hippos' I do know that Severn Trent are offering free Save-a-Flush bags to their customers. If anyone is interested please visit http://www.stwater.co.uk/server.php?show=nav.5795

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  • mrtricky007
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    mrtricky007 said

    Locally within the Bournemouth & West Hants area if you move house you're forced to have a water meter (free of charge) whether you want it or not and there's no option to revert to ratable value.
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    I thought the water companies were obliged by law to have sorted out a way of charging for water other than that based on the ratable value of your property hence the birth of the water meter although I don't know what timescale they had to complete the transition by - that's probably been conveniently forgotten....

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  • jeremybentham
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    jeremybentham said

    In the long run the 'water rate' is a better deal than the water meter. With the price linked to the property you occupy it tends to reflect your ability to pay and, more importantly, it does not rise when your cash strapped growing family uses more water. So it costs more per capita when the family grows up and leaves home, but that simply represents a socially desirable inter-generational transfer. Meters are also extremely costly to operate relative to the cost of water, if everyone had them water bills would rise disproportionately... which might be why water companies favour them. As a way of reducing consumption, public appeals, incidentally, have proved to be more effective than metering.
    In the 1970's California drought the City of Berkeley posted official notices "Shower with a friend" - much more fun that meters !

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  • thenikjones
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    thenikjones said

    Water Meters are NOT always the best option.
    As far as I can tell from speaking with freinds and comparing bills households with 1 or 2 people seem to benefit from a meter, however, households of 3+ (ie. me) end up paying more (as I have.


    The rule of thumb is, if there are more bedrooms than occupants, get a meter.

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  • caslass
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    caslass said

    in reply to mrtricky007, in 1991 the water companies wanted to compulsory meter everyone, then in the middle 1990's they had to take out or seal off water meters that had been put in on a compulsory basis. However, any houses built since 1991 (I think) or certainly the mid 1990s automatically have a water meter fitted, and you can't have it taken out, that was the deal struck with ofwat/the government. I live on my own and my bill had decreased by over £300 per year since having a meter fitted compared to the old rateable value, if you are going to have one fitted keep a check on your meter readings and if its more expensive get them to cap it off within the 12 month initial period.

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  • devonmaid
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    devonmaid said

    If you live in the west country S West Water want to increase our water rates by 12.5% if you are on a water meter and 40% if you are not. In April I rang the company to ask how much our water rates would be this year if we didn't have a water meter and on a Band D house they were going to be £1009.00 per year so with a 40% increase the water rates will rise to the £1400's the most expensive water in the country. This is because the SW residents have had to pay for the clean up of the water and coasts in this area and because we are a tourist zone, I don't think we get any help from the government, Other people think they are hard done by, Thames water give us a break we definately could do with one down here, give me Thames average bill any day.
    We look for all methods of saving water here, when running the shower before we get in we use a bucket tho collect the water that would otherwise go down the drain to use to flush the loo. Collect the water from the tumble dryer instead of throwing it away, don't run water cleaning teeth etc.

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  • gartons
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    gartons said

    Bathe together

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  • topshare
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    topshare said

    Why is it that people who chose to have several children complain that they cannot afford to pay the going rate for water ? The whole point about the water meter is that it makes you think about consumption and waste, and also gives you the opportunity to use and pay for merely as much or as little as you need ! The system fairest to all is one that costs you according to usage - whether it is water, electricity, gas, rail fares, petrol, food or luxury holidays. Why should my 94-year-old widowed mother-in-law subsidise the water usage of a family of four employed adults living in an identical house next door to her ?

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  • gttttg
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    gttttg said

    I applied to Thames Water for a meter and was told that if my property was built before 1960 (which it is) I would have to have all underground pipes inspected at my expense. If I went ahead without an inspection and there were problems I was responsible for all costs involved. Hence, I am not on a meter yet! Has anybody else experienced this and what did it involve please? I live on my own and pay £44 per month!

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  • Anfauglir
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    Anfauglir said

    "Eight Ways To Cut Your Water Bill"?

    Erm...not really. One POSSIBLE way (a water meter), and 7 ways to save water - not to save money! I'm all in favour of not wasting water, but as a non-metered customer with a growing family, none of the tips will actually save me money!

    Good article - misleading title!

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  • gladioligal
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    gladioligal said

    We moved house in Nov from a 4 bed detached with a water meter where we paid £350 a year to 4 bed detached which was non metered. (We have 2 small kids and often have a lodger.) Hooray, I thought, I no longer have to be so careful, until my bills for the year ahead came in. For a years supply with South E water and Southern Water they amounted to £800. I thought this was a mistake until I discovered my friends who were also in 4 bed detached houses in the same area were all paying the same! I have gone straight back on a meter and even if we are careless we are unlikely to use up the £450 worth of water we are saving. It is not the case that bigger houses should stay non-metered, though strangely my friends paying £800 are all choosing not to go metered through some kind of irrational fear of paying more!

    We are careful and already follow the advice in the article, plus not flushing the loo after every visit if the whole family is going at the same time before we go out.

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  • profresh
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    profresh said

    from my experience water metre is a rip off, compare to water rate.
    for a family of two my water metre charge is £987 a year, Compare to a family friend of 6 in that £289.00 a year from water rate.
    water metre is hugely miss read, it rediculous. I have argue my case with thames water who but it down to leakage but nothing has change because I after testing they found no leakage. So water metre is a rip off

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  • stevepaynegx
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    stevepaynegx said

    Surface Water Drainage Rebate.
    I'm surprised no-one's mentioned this standing annual charge (£25) which can be rebated.
    The sewerage charge you pay includes the cost of removing and treating surface water. This is the water that falls on your roof or the hard paved surfaces of your property.
    You qualify for a rebate if :
    • all the rainwater from your roof or shared roof drains into a soakaway both at the front and rear of your property, and,
    • all the rainwater from your garden, drive, patio or yard runs off into the soil.

    You DO NOT qualify if:
    • part of your surface water goes to a soakaway
    • you use a water butt but have no soakaways
    • the water from your roof runs indirectly to the sewer.
    A soakaway is where water from your roof, etc, is piped to a large underground pit filled with gravel within the boundary of the property, normally 10 to 15 feet away from the house foundations.
    There's usually a form you can download on your water comapny's website. It's your money not theirs!

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  • teaboy100
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    teaboy100 said

    For a start, make much more use of grey water - collect bath and shower water (leave the plug in the bath) and use this to flush the loo or water the garden.
    And on a more contravertial note - do we all wash ourselves and our clothes too much? Why do you shower before you go to bed, then again when you get up?
    Imagine how much water you would use if you had to manually get it from a well first.
    Worth a thought really.

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  • PJB50
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    PJB50 said

    StevePayneQX said Surface Water Drainage Rebate.
    I'm surprised no-one's mentioned this standing annual charge (£25) which can be rebated

    In the Anglian Water region, the rebate is £32 per year and the conditions are not as strict as Steve suggests.

    One clue as to whether your house qualifies is whether it is (or was) connected to a septic tank for foul water drainage. If you are on one of these, the drainage company wants to reduce the volume of water as much as possible, so makes other arrangements for surface water.

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  • pjharr
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    pjharr said

    Dilute any water to make it last longer

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  • pandeb
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    pandeb said

    It's true - gray water management and use really does make a difference. In our case it was a reduction of 51% on our latest water bill compared to the previous six months.

    It all came about when our dishwasher was out of order and we used the dirty water on our garden plants, adding in cold tea and some other 'unmentionables' - my potatos are consequently better than they've ever been!!!!!. At the same time we used bathroom sink water for flushing the loos.

    An annual saving of 100GBP or so is well worth the extra effort.

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  • dayvem2003
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    dayvem2003 said

    From a south west water customer.
    If everybody went on meters and achieved huge savings then the water companies would just put the price of the water charges up. Lets face it the water companies want profits and a drop in consumption would hurt them and they in turn would hurt us back by raising prices. Our water prices have been consistently the highest in the country for years yet only recently has our sewerage been treated before being discharged to the sea (SW water had been discharging raw sewage into the sea for years with the only treatment being a mesh covering on the discharge pipe to make the raw sewage small enough so it wasnt entirely visible) and has the treatment been upgraded to the best available ER NO just to what makes it legal so in my opinion as a south west water customer I pay top prices for a basic water service and I subsidise all the holiday businesses (ie the caravan parks and businesses who utilise the county tourist trade to make money) to keep the beaches clean for their guests and customers. Offwatt are a joke to even consider these price rises all I see from offwatt is protection to the water companies and none to their customers. Dayvem

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  • bethybird
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    bethybird said

    I am beeing taken to court at the moment by United utilities. ALL residents in my are pay around £340 per year water rates top £400. My house is a newer build 1962 3bed surrounded by large victorian houses 5-6 bed. My water rates per year are £920 I have paid united utilities £450 well above local average & asked them to review my bill inline with everyone else. They say dispite making millions in profit they have no department that can review bill. the bills are set in stone.... I don't expect water for free but lets face it the water boards have done nothing for years they should be held accountable for the state the water pipes are in. Over the years millions of new houses/flats have been built so again they are getting more & more money from more people, demand has gone up but how many have homes abroad now & rarely use water in their homes during times away.. I am tempted to build a swimming pool (lol if only we could afford one) we may aswell get value for money. I feel it is blackmail. I have NO option but to use united utilities no other supplier or competitor in Manchester area this is not fair so why has office of fair traiding not stept in to monitor all of this. If we lived in France I'm sure EVERYONE would refuse to pay until fair price set. Running out of money to live in UK such a shame greedy companies pricing us all out.

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  • Jan5a
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    Jan5a said

    I've seen the comment "Don’t leave the tap running constantly while you’re brushing your teeth" many times before.

    As someone who has never run a tap whilst brushing teeth, could someone please explain to me why anyone does this? I'm sitting here feeling really ignorant because I honestly can't think why ...

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  • magicblonde
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    magicblonde said

    In the 1970s, during drought times, there was a saying "If it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down" - anyone remember this? When we moved into a big house with a water meter (only 2 of us) we did become more conscious of water usage. I now rarely use the dishwasher - for two of us it doesn't take long to wash by hand, when the washing machine needed replacing, I bought one with a half-load option, and we follow the old 1970s rule when there's just the two of us around.

    I also like pjharr's comment about diluting water - with whisky perhaps? :-)

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  • mart1974
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    mart1974 said

    I live alone in a 3 bed flat and it is not possible to install a water meter. I have called Thames water to explain that I am only a single occupant but paying the 'going' rate for a property of this size. They won't change the billing and I can't see a way to reduce this charge - they refuse/say they are unable to bill me the same as the average meter usage for somebody in the same situation and insisit they can 'only' charge me the potential value of the property. Any ideas?
    Many thanks,

    Martin

    Many thanks,

    Martin

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  • throttlestop
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    throttlestop said

    Pee in the garden.

    To fill [note how we speak of "filling" a kettle -- even our use of language tends to programme us to waste] a kettle with just the right amount, fill a cup and pour the requisite number of cupfuls into the kettle. After a few goes it becomes habitual. Otherwise, filling the kettle directly from the tap invariably results in excess water in the kettle. NB this does not save much water -- just a bit that evaporates when the kettle boils -- it saves the energy required to boil the water in the kettle. (If you have an exposed element in your kettle, you need to make sure it is just covered with water, to avoid it overheating.)

    Surely, the rule of thumb has to be to get a meter if the number of occupants exceeds the number of bedrooms.

    My girlfriend and I hate showers -- we always bathe together. No-one ever compares a shower with less than half a bath (less than half thanks to Archimedes).

    I have a big butt (if you excuse the expression) and have re-plumbed so my downstairs loo, dishwasher and washing machine use natural, soft rainwater.

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  • bethybird
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    bethybird said

    Hi mart 1974 I have been told that as water is essential to life, if you don't pay bills they can't cut water supplies off will let you know how I go on after court case & if this is true lol. very interested in your re-plumb throttlestop sounds like fab idea how did you get this done?

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  • Ted64
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    Ted64 said

    I saved a small fortune by installing rain water butts. The water is used to water the garden and wash the car. Being on a water meter the water used to water the garden & wash the car was charge as both water in and sewage out. Now its free as long as it rains. I wish I had installed the water butts a lot sooner.

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  • scorpwhizzy
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    scorpwhizzy said

    Were building new 4 bed house installing 5000L tank in the ground will supply all loos and washing machine. were living on site at the moment in a static caravan, i converted loo to run on rain water and my water bill is £50 ish a year sewage is around £110.
    I believe all new houses should be built like this with all the new housing that will be built in the south (where we are) the strain on the water table will be too much, thay are even talking seriously about desalination in parts of Hampshire it wil be that bad.

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  • petitemisschief
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    petitemisschief said

    Being someone who hates waste I think water meters should be compulsory. People will then rethink how they use water and there won't be so much wasted, just like we are all having to do with fuel. In my household there is myself and 2 teenagers, we all have a bath or shower each day, both the washer and dishwasher are on 3 or 4 times a week. The only concession I've made since becoming metered is not using a hose either for the garden or washing the car. I'm with Yorkshire Water and pay £30 per month over 12 months which I think is reasonable. In the 15 years that I've had the meter the cost has probably doubled. If I'd been billed by the rateable value I'd have been much worse off. The more water we use the more it costs the water companies. Logically if we were all on water meters the cost would go down for all of us as we would all be more economical. (Thats of course excluding the greed of big business!) I've just been reading an article that the world faces a water shortage in the coming eyars due to the increase in population - perhaps now is the time for us all to be personally accountable for the water we use.

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  • sparkyscientist
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    sparkyscientist said

    Wash my car?? I did that last year, and I'll do it again next year (whether it needs it or not)...

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  • NOTOVERTHEHILL
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    NOTOVERTHEHILL said

    Tonyblue's idea of using a water butt is excellent... but, here... don't I recall - in the early days of water privatisation - that a pub (was it the Cat and the Fiddle?) used this extremely sensible device to collect water off their own roof - to be informed by the newly-formed water
    carpetbaggers (sorry, water company) that there was a CHARGE for this. That is, for using your own water. Perhaps I dreamt this but didn't the water company say the water was THEIRS?

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  • McLeodC
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    McLeodC said

    It's always worth insulating water pipes, even where there is no risk of them freezing - this will reduce both energy and water wastage.
    DIY insulation foam will help keep water in the hot pipes hot, and water in the cold pipes cool, so you won't have to run off large amounts of water (including expensively-heated water) until the taps run at the temperature you want.
    If you're having building work done, it's also sensible to plan the plumbing to minimise the length of pipe runs, especially for hot-water pipes.

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  • ScottyD73
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    ScottyD73 said

    From my experience if you are careful with your water usage and observe the ways to save it, being on a meter is cheaper.
    There are four of us in the house (2 adults, 2 kids 6 & 8 years) and we are better off by far in the Anglia water region.
    We are not obsessive about water consveration but do take care with it as at the end of the day it costs us!
    I would like to think that if we all had to stop and think about water usage prices would level (hmmmm) for all because people on rates can use as much as they like. I know people in the Three Valleys region who pay very little in comparison in rates but brag about leaving their sprinklers on for hours etc (apparentl it's their right or something!). Bascially other more careful users are subsidising this arrogance.
    At least we are now seeing new properties being fitted with meters and people moving house are required to convert upon arrival if one is not already installed.
    Yikes - I am starting to sound like some mad eco-warrior....where's that funny farm address....

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  • Aposentado
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    Aposentado said

    "Many people find they are better off with a water meter. What’s more, the meter should be installed free of charge"

    Hi,

    following the above statment on the article I had to let know to the public that Thames Water does NOT install water meter for free into my flat.

    There fore I do not have my rights respected. Shall I sue the Company? Any other advise, please?

    Regards

    A

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  • waynfletebass
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    waynfletebass said

    My new house built in 2001 has modern single flush cisterns. With all of them it is necessary to flush them multiple times to remove solid waste. What a waste of water! The modern use of small amounts of water to flush a toilet is counter-productive. My old house had a dual flush cistern which was mush better so the amount of water needed could be controlled.

    On the issue of running water, until my wife died earlier this year I had live-in carers. Without exception they all washed up under a running hot tap. I could never persuade any of them to use a bowl for washing up.

    As I am alone now my water bill with a meter should drop considerably.

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  • Browndipper
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    Browndipper said

    A brick (or two) is a cheaper alternative to a Hippo if you want to reduce your flush volume.

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  • natouille
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    natouille said

    Sorry bethybird, I am french and the system is similar to the uk. To this difference. All individual properties are fitted with meters since 1960 (Flats and houses). For older properties, example in Paris, the water is averaged and based on the dimension of the property in square meters. So larger properties paying more than smaller irrespective to number of occupants. Same as UK.
    Water is either managed by private companies or managed by the city (distribution, drainage, water treatment). Some cities prefer to have control and some are happy to have it managed by the private sector.
    I am french and I have a property in France (also my family in Paris). I am not sure where you get your information from.

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  • moleylabbie
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    moleylabbie said

    Where I live in Dover it is also compulsory to have a water metre. Any new properties have them already, while the old ones get a metre fitted when you move in. It has saved us money compaired to the standard rate so pretty pleased with it.

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  • BrokenNotBroke
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    BrokenNotBroke said

    Let us all thank a previous government for privatising water companies who now make a profit from supplying people with an essential product. Can we switch supplier? No. So the point of privatisation was...?

    I work for a water company and see the pressures from all sides; profits for shareholders, increasing population and new housing to service, legal obligations regarding quality and leakage levels, spiralling energy costs...

    The water companies are caught in the middle between the consumers and the legislation forced upon them, and their operating costs.

    You can't cut your water bill, you can only cut your water usage.

    I like to look at it this way: if all the treated water was free of charge, but their was no sewarage (which is *included* in your water bill don't forget) then how much would you be willing to pay, per month, for a company to deal with what you flush down the toilet?

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  • susancs
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    susancs said

    We live in mid-Kent and water services are split between South East Water (supply) and Southern Water (sewerage), so 2 bills and double admin costs. Didn't realise until recently, however, that sewerage costs are directly tied to amount of water used, so it seems worth switching. Trouble is, having been surveyed for a meter, we are still waiting for it to be fitted (could apparently take up to 3 months ...) Also, do make sure you check for possible leaks - most people around us save money on meters but the people opposite us were not making savings and were found to have a leak. I totally agree about lack of competition in the water industry - after all, we don't actually get a different supply of gas or electricity, it's all just a billing exercise.

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  • vurrister
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    vurrister said

    The importance of water conservation depends on where you live. Those in the Sout East, and to a lesser degree the South West particularly on the chalk areas need to be more concerned; but many other parts are virtually up to their arm pits in it. Did you know that under current legislation you can take up to a maximum of 20cu.m of ground water a day - that's 20000 ltrs without requiring a licence and free of charge appart from the cost is finding it; drawing it off and possibly treating it; the cost of which could be no more than installing solar panels. If you live in a flood plane for example as quite a lot seem to do; chances are there is water not far below your feet; - small scale treatment is relatively cheap these days and the payback in quality alone is worthwhile; but if you can draw in excess of 80 ltrs a minute you can then begin to utilise the goethermal advantages of heating by open looped ground water source heat-pump which is far more effecient than the close looped ground source equivelent. But one word of advice. You would need expert and right now there are experts and experts out there (if you know what I mean)

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  • kazgo
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    kazgo said

    Hi, I live in a block of flats built in 1973 and we have all opted to change to water meters over the years. Mine was installed free of charge and has saved me money compared to rates. I am unsure why it is a problem for Mart1974 and Doloskea to have a meter just because they live in flats - can anyone enlighten me?

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  • Honeybabe44
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    Honeybabe44 said

    hello notoverthehill...yes you,re right...there was/is a charge for conserving your own water...as the water company states or should i say demands..it is their water..strange innit...the waterboards own the rainfall and the americans own the moon. to which they will gladly try and sell you a piece of lol...however back to the metering part, I worked for Kent Meters Ltd in Luton for a number of years working on both home market and exports..back in the day of the mid 80,s I remember the Isle of Wight being guinea pigs to the metering system and they were not happy bunnies, as all of you in some form have mentioned your ways of saving or conserving water even the Isle of Wight weighted down their toilet flushing system with bricks, in those days I used to say to friends and colleagues, whatever you do in life DO NOT get a water meter...I was then on the rateable usage..these days..I say...You cant beat a water meter, i was paying back in 1995-99 about £30 per month for 10 months..I moved property to a 3 bed detached and already a water meter was in place..and yes...dear old Kent Meters made it...i,ve been on this meter since moving here and my bill per month hasn't moved from £30 a month..I run a pond quite a large one that has a habit in the winter of draining itself leaving my poor old koi flapping around and I must say this pond holds some gallons, yet i moan at the old man for filling up a sink to dip his head in,( i,d like to drown him) joke...IMHO my advice now would be..get a water meter, its true to say...you are more conscious of your consumption but hey...it works out so much cheaper and if the waterboards are thinking of hiking rateable usage customers bills by 40% then it may warrant a good talk with your head or your partner/spouse...

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  • ancientaviatior
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    ancientaviatior said

    For those of you with water meters and readers who are into conservation, please may I pass on this water saving tip. Take a "Navy Shower". Fresh water on warships was always in short supply so the "Navy Shower" is 30 seconds on to get wet then turn off the water. Lather up with the water off, then 30 seconds with the water back on to rince off. Navy shower....Done! Oh, for the female readers for seconds read minutes.

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  • bethybird
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    bethybird said

    Hi Natouille, ment no malice to the French quite the opposite I am envious of the way the French stick together on most economic matters. If the UK did this over Bank of England rates, gas, electricity,petrol ,& mad water rate system we would all be better off. Quite agree how can something with no competition be privatised but we will all just keep on paying because thats what we have to do.......ho hum

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  • Barrydrake
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    Barrydrake said

    Amazing isn't it! A green and pleasant land where it never stops raining and yet water - an essential resource - which I would have said any hard cpressed family should have as a right is very very expensive. Why was water privatised? It certainly doesn't seem to have been to benefit the consumer.I think the company I subscribe to is owned by the French . Well I'm sure they've got my interests at heart- I mean it's one thing to buy a Citroen but there you go. Perhaps Gordon Brown is thinking of flogging our health service to the Russians - They seem like nice people - unless you live in Georgia that is . I think if I had lived in Guy Fawkes's days I would have been helping him to pack the gunpowder in the barrels. The mind numbing stupidity of our politicians past and present defeats me.
    Gordon Brown might well be saying :
    Let's have a brain storming session at this very moment and think of some new stupid things to do.

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  • atseyes
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    atseyes said

    How can you wash up under running water? what happens to the washing up liquid, or do people that do this not use any. I always use a bowlful of water; and, for that matter, a basin of water to shave in.
    Oh and, magicblonde, having just read your comment, surely there is only one liquid which should be diluted with whisky, and that is green ginger wine - Crabbies, of course!

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  • tizhimi
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    tizhimi said

    Guys guys guys, there is a VERY simple way to save water....

    Save water....
    Drink BEER!

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  • gillianswain
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    gillianswain said

    Tizhimi I have just read your very good suggestion for saving water and am now off to have a bath in Whisky and to do my washing up in Brandy (love the fumes). Then I thought I might make a Sherry trifle and bake some cakes steeping the fruit in Cherry Brandy of course. For afters I thought that I might do a creme de menthe souffle. I am saving the beer for when the visitors arrive...that is of course, providing I can get up off the floor to answer the door!

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  • notnotbow
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    notnotbow said

    Only occurred to me when reading about the water hippo, could you not achieve the same effect by putting a brick or similar into the cistern?

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  • McLeodC
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    McLeodC said

    In answer to notnotbow, a brick will work perfectly well, but only older cisterns are likely to have room for one. And it's best to use an engineering brick - ordinary bricks may start to crumble after prolonged immersion.
    Another method is just to find a screw-top bottle (either glass or plastic) that will fit, fill it with water, screw the top on tightly, and leave it in the cistern.
    I think hippos are a marketing gimmick, getting people to pay for a product that can be easily substituted with various free alternatives.

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  • tomatosoup
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    tomatosoup said

    The biggest pain in the @rse for me is that I only need about a pint of hot water for a shave in the morning, but I have to run off about 2 gallons of water before it gets hot enough! I may start filling a thermos the night before - that's what I do when I go camping.

    But from the point of cheapness, I heartily recommend a water meter. Even with 4 people in the house, of which 2 of them have a bath every night (apart!) and the rest showers. Mind you, even when I'm lying in the bath it is usually less deep than the old war-time 5-inch recommended level - I suppose I'm just naturally a miser with it - I can't be bothered to wait for the damn thing to fill. And when I take a shower, unless it's the middle of winter I use the low-power electric setting and turn the water flow to the minimum. Even when I include washing my hair with the rest of the shower I am in and out in less than 5 minutes and only use about 2 gallons of water. When I cycle to work I sometimes have to queue while someone else is in the shower and I can hear it going for 15 minutes or more - what ARE they doing in there? How filthy can one body get?

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  • topshare
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    topshare said

    G'dMorning McLeodC: The advantage of the Hippo - which actually costs virtually zilch anyway - is that it is soft and pliable and thus will bend to fit into available space. Try doing that with any house brick ! Before installing anything at all, bear in mind the point that smaller modern cisterns flush much less water than older ones, and thus can deliver an inadequate flush to dispose of solids first time - so frequently necessitating a second flush which is thus water-wasteful. Also old drain and sewage systems need a goodly wallop of water to keep them free of blockage.

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  • andreww5
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    andreww5 said

    Water companies are motivated solely by greed and have a desire to queeze as much out of each cuatomer as they possibly can.
    Water companies are planning massive price rises for the coming 5 years ( you can see their individual proposals on OFWAT's site.
    One of the proposals is to ensure all domestic properties are metered by 2015.
    If you study the proposal you will see that some comapnies ( including Southern Water, who unfortunately supply me in Worthing ) are planning to hike the cost of metered supply even higher than for unmetered.
    This greedy and corrupt company were fined over £20million pounds having been caught fiddling their figures.
    I am convinced that the real reason that they ( Southern Water are increasing their charges more then any other water company ) next year prepare for a 20% increase in Southern Water bills ) is so as they can re-coup the money that they were fined.

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  • jackkeane2000
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    jackkeane2000 said

    This subject has been a thorn in my eye for some time.
    I choke when I am advised that water meters actually are advantegous in accumulating financial gain. Indeed, premiarily to those whom have raised their children many years ago. Many people will be better off with a meter, I agree, but not the few, especially those raising families today.

    I fail to comprehend how householders of the years gone by were very keen to take advantage of unmetered water, yet subscribe to saving a few bob, once their children have fled the nest.

    This places families of today at an unfair disadvantage.

    It is common knowledge that water companies have not invested in the past, but produce fat cats.

    Every year we have a hose pipe ban due to a claimed draught. What draught? It rarely stops raining here in the South East.

    I follow all of the recommended 8 ways and even a ninth one, despite the fact that I am not on a meter, yet.

    Yet, we are handed leaflets by our water companies regarding the poor of third world countries, asking for donations for free water.

    Ours is not free, nor free from bleach,sediments from victorian pipes and metal corrosion, toxic floride etc. etc.

    Hey,there again our sewage rate is the same cost, with our service provided, an extended pipe straight out into the sea.

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  • gillianswain
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    gillianswain said

    I know that this conversation is about water but as a widow on a very limited widows pension I am going to be put in a position by the utility companies where I will either have to carry on working well past retirement until my body gives out and use my life savings to pay these bills or to sell my home (in a market where selling your house is impossible). My alternative is to leave England during the winter, having turned off all my heating beforehand, and to go somewhere like Spain for the winter (I don't have to stay in a posh hotel as a relative has a house there and it will be cheaper to rent from her). So guess what I will be doing? Surely it is in the interest of these utility companies not to force us out of our homes when they will earn precicely zero from us - better to take a more modest rise in prices which is what I do with my business.

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  • harold1066
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    harold1066 said

    What are the pre-conditions for installing meters in flats? I was refused one many years ago because there was no common area within the building. Still true?

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  • gillianswain
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    gillianswain said

    I am old enough to remember when there were no water charges separate from household rates (due to the fact that water comes free from the sky and the costs for repairs were in with your household rates). We were then told that we needed to pay separately for water as much work needed to be done to improve drains, water pipes, sewage collection etc. Well guess what happened! Can you see an improvement is any of these? No! Of course a few fat cats have got a lot richer. But I guess its a bit like the vote on Europe. I signed a petition requesting a vote from this present Government and we got the usual reply saying how much Europe had benefitted us (I see no half-time work, cheap food etc as we were originally told) and that we had already had a vote in the 1970's (I voted "No" at the time and not one person I spoke to said they had voted "yes"). The one thing the Government didn't mention in their reply was that they had PROMISED this referendum vote in their MANIFESTO. The one thing I know for certain is that it's just the rich squeezing more out of the poorer members of society and that you certainly cannot trust them to keep promises. By the way don't expect a change of Government to make any difference - I hear that David Cameron recently went on a holiday in Devon to show his solidarity with us ordinary folk and his "green" credentials. He then jetted off on his REAL holiday which cost £21,000. So if you have a water meter fitted and save water as much as possible they will simply put up the costs anyway much as the other utility companies have done. As one man wrote to the telegraph recently, he had been urged for many years to save energy and money by turning down his central heating by one degree - his central heating is now down to ZERO, so what next? The words "bleed them 'til they're dry comes to mind". I wonder if they get information about peoples savings from their tax forms?

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  • Luniversal
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    Luniversal said

    Several commenters have raised the question of flat dwellers being refused water meters. I live alone in a third floor London duplex apartment, and estimate I am being charged £300+ pa more on a fixed tariff than if I wete metered.

    We are told that installing meters would cost the supplier too much. Yet the stated policy of Thames Water, and the government, is that all homes should be metered within a few years, and that usage should be related much more closely to cost.

    Isn't it time some consumer champion shouted this anomaly frm the rooftops and got suppliers to put up or shut up when it comes to metering single people in flat blocks? Hundreds of thousands if not millions of us must be arbitrarily and unjustly overcharged.

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  • scepticallady
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    scepticallady said

    As a mature student I've been able to join the local gym for £50 a year (this September I'll be able to renew my annual membership for £42)- Now I swim, shower and wash my hair there. I keep fitter and use less of my 'own' water as a result, saves not just my water but also the cost of heating the water and use of hair drier. On days I don't swim I just need a bowl of water, shower gel and loofah for a 'strip wash'. IN the past I lived on a small island where the only water was from a well or from the rain water butts so I learnt there to be economical with water. Believe you me, when you have literally run out of water and needed to take a boat to the mainland to bring containers of water back you learn to appreciate it and not waste it.

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  • RosemaryPettit
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    RosemaryPettit said

    Someone asked why people didn't turn off the tap when cleaning their teeth?

    I had a minor run-in with my lodger a couple of years ago when the Mayor of London was asking residents to cut down on water (my direct debit is £14/month so it seems I'm economical anyway).

    I always turn off the tap but he didn't and I could hear gallons running away. But for him, having the tap on was 'normal' and he wasn't metered at home so a running tap didn't bite in the same way.

    There's only one way for most people to seriously cut down on usage - and that's to pay for water just like paying for electricity or gas.

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  • collosas
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    collosas said

    i am paying DD of £24 a month on a water metre with Thames water. That is a fiver more for a year than the 2008/9 price rise. That was with son at home who had just discovered showers! Was a bit worried about trying to get back on the rates (my metre was put in well over a year ago) but now I think I'm best off. Thanks for good artical, O Foolish One!

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  • anubis1275
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    anubis1275 said

    Hi, just too add really to all the comments above. I went to a meter some years back, installed free by Anglian water,and the savings were considerable. I am a confirmed shower person and to save water even further I use a watering can under the tap as from turning on to becoming hot I can collect 6.5-7 litres of water. This either goes to watering the garden and pot plants or a free flush in the loo. My last water bill was £13.00 of used water, though this still did not stop Anglian from bumping it up to over £60 once they included all the "standing charges" and sewerage.

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  • steve061954
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    steve061954 said

    Thames Water say that if they cannot fit a meter, they may be able to offer the Average Household Charge. Ask for information on this if you've been refused a meter in the past.

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  • MouseMac
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    MouseMac said

    "do we all wash ourselves and our clothes too much? Why do you shower before you go to bed, then again when you get up?

    Imagine how much water you would use if you had to manually get it from a well first."

    teaboy100 is so right! Everyone needs to spend some quality time in a desert or, failing that, with a meter of some kind, the sort that needs feeding before you can get any more of whatever it's guarding. I grew up with gas meters.

    The expense of heating water also made us think about how often we really needed that hot bath. Florence Nightingale is supposed to have said that a woman could keep herself perfectly clean with a couple of pints a day - in the trenches, at that - now there's a thought to conjure with.

    We have had a water meter for several years and saved a fortune, firstly by not being charged for water we weren't using to start with, and secondly by not using any more water than necessary (yup, because we were now paying for it by the cupful). The car is washed when it rains - in the rain and with the rain - and clothes are washed when they need it (small items often by hand in the washbasin).

    Garden gets rainwater too, collected in a butt. By and large, anything that needs more water than our weather provides doesn't belong here anyway.

    We are so lucky that wet just falls out of the sky in this part of the world. Why are we never satisfied with what we can get for nowt?

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  • paulws1
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    paulws1 said

    I agree we could all bathe less, once a week used to be considered sufficient 50 years ago. Every other day is perfectly adequate unless you are in a particularly dirty job.

    When you run off the cold water before it turns hot, save the water in a bucket and use it to top up the toilet cistern. Keep the bath water and use it on the garden or in the cistern. Finally adopt the Australian rule 'if its yellow let it mellow, if its brown flush it down'

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  • BASSCHASERTOO
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    BASSCHASERTOO said

    Overuse of uppercase will be tamed (you can edit your comment to prevent this):

    perhaps somebody can help with a problem i have. we bought a house 18 months ago with te idea of converting it from a 4 bed ,4 bath guest house to a pair of 3 bedroom houses, selling one and living mortgage free. (obviously pre crunch).south west water have been trying to impose the 91 rateable value

    clause which means we are liable for 762 pounds a year.now heres the rub the house has been stripped to a shell and the only water used is the builders 3 pots of tea a day. the roof water runs off onto the street and the builders use a loo a few doors away in the pub so no sewer use. i have spoken several times to the monkees at the call centre and their supervisors and they just explain that there is no alternative assesment proccess. i have now had a meter fitted but feel that i have been forced into accepting a meter for financial reasons. they did explain there is a form tha can be filled in to reduce the bill to 250 pounds annually but this

    requires proof that only one person resides in the said property. the catch 22 situation is that if i dont want a meter and nobody lives in the property as is normal whilst restoring a property to this extent then we will have to pay 3 times more than if i lived there.seems a shame the government has no plans to remove their monopoly, perhaps a bit of competition might benefit joe public, they may also drop the cost of pipe installation,(i have just had a quote to install a three foot section in the cul de sac outside and connect to the mains 2700 pounds everything else done by my builders).needless to say the company qouting for this is south west waters only approved installer,i wonder how much of this is skimmed by the water company!

    And now here are some pictures to help lighten the mood

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  • AuntFlo
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    AuntFlo said

    Why do we even need to save water?

    We live on a Island surrounded by the stuff that aledgedly is rising every year, it can easily be desalinated to supply drinking water as they do in Italy water shortage myth solved, and it might stop my Greek friends falling about with laughter when I tell them we have another hose pipe ban in the wettest part of Europe.

    I live in the South East and if you believed East Surrey water we never get a drop of rain however I spend 3months of the year water logged with the sewers at capacity overflowing onto the roadside drainage ditches all this water soaks or evapourates away the area has had thousands upon thousands of new builds all charged for water but no improvement in services. ES Water think they own all the water and can still charge full price when they apply restrictions but its not their problem if the sweage system is overflowing onto the streets.

    The only problem we have with water is poor infastructure if they do not need hosepipe bans in Greece we certainly do not need them here, sadly all the excessive charges we get to supply our water are gien away in dividends and fat cat salaries and no work is ever done for improvements, the population and number of water bills in my area has doubled since privitisation and not one single improvement for supply has been made, OFFWATT is a joke it does nothing for customer but then its paid for by the water companies so he who pays the piper....

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  • jaymie
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    jaymie said

    Just knowing how much water you use per shower can help. I got this shower monitor and timer and now we're aware of exactly how much water gets used in our house in each shower.

    http://www.nigelsecostore.com/cgi-bin/affiliate/clickme.cgi?exec=jaymiethomas&site=site1&fd=acatalog/Efergy_Shower_Timer.html

    They recommend 35 litres for an average shower. We have it set to 45 litres (about six minutes), but that's still way less than was being used sometimes!

    The next water bill is due in May, so we'll see what difference it's made.

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  • angelina
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    angelina said

    thanks to all this has been the best laugh of the week.i am 60 years old,the first 15 years of my life i lived with my grandparents in a house with no electric only gas mantles and no bathroom only the old tin bath hanging on the wall in the back yard.every evening you washed in an enamel bowl with water from the kettle once a fortnight you got a bath,this meant half filling the bath and standing it on the old gas cooker,when it was hot enough you put it on the floor and topped it up by enamel bucket,finally you waited while 2 other people used it first.that was up until 1965 when i got my first taste of a proper bathroom and electric lights.all our bath water went on granddads vegetable plot or nans fuschias.the outside toilet had a big wooden seat high cistern,complete with creepy crawlies and our loo roll was the daily newspaper ripped into squares and stuck on an old butchers hook.nowadays i bath in clean water once a week,strip wash every night and only flush if its brown and always use water from washing,washingup and vegetable preparation and cooking.i am not on a metre but consider this a normal practice as i believe we owe this planet something after it has fed us for years.never take anything for granted it might just turn around and bite back one day

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  • LateDeveloper
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    LateDeveloper said

    haha I can remember the old tin tub and grandmas range

    I don't know why people moan so much about the bills then say that water meters are a bad thing. It should be compulsory for everyone to have a meter, so that they actually pay for what they use. I switched to a meter, after taking into consideration that a family lives next door, with 6 adults all using water and pay the same amount as a couple. This is hardly fair in anyones eyes other than those that are getting a free ride off everyone else.

    If people were to actually pay for what they use, maybe we wouldn't get such big price hikes as we do.

    As far as savings go, the toilet uses far too much water, even for the gradient of the drainage system, and like every other device in the house that is bought to save energy, this should be upgraded too, After all, we are still using a device that is basically the same as it has always been, and a minimum of a dual flush system would be far more efficient.

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  • silkycat
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    silkycat said

    At the end of the day water companies are in business primarily to make money. Providing us with water/sewerage is secondary to that. So what do you think would happen if we all had meters and all cut consumption "to save the planet"?

    Yes, you got it, unit prices would rise to make up their shortfall. What makes you think that they are not doing this already. O.K. they can make some savings by not having to increase supply or process so much sewage, but thats minimal.

    They'll get your money one way or the other.

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  • eLJay
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    eLJay said

    "This is because the SW residents have had to pay for the clean up of the water and coasts in this area and because we are a tourist zone, I don't think we get any help from the government"

    Then why not tax the tourists and those coming here to their second homes rather than those who actually live and work here!

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  • sylvester262
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    sylvester262 said

    Let's nationalise these water companies. We (the British people) need the profits more than the fat cats do!

    "Wouldn't that be expensive?" I hear you all cry...

    Not necessarily. The government could simply make a compulsory purchase order one afternoon, just after the markets close, of all the shares of all the water companies at the closing price that day. Instead of paying cash, issue exchange-tradable 'Water Bonds' paying about 5-6% to every shareholder. Investors can either keep them or sell them. Either way, they don't lose out.

    Continue to operate the companies as though they were private businesses - i.e. pay managers a sensible salary plus bonuses to run them efficiently. OFWAT would represent the government as owner of the companies - on our behalf - and could fix prices for each company to ensure that about a 10% profit each year is made, at the same time as ensuring the infrastructure is well maintained and gradually improved.

    Then, in future, instead of paying dividends to shareholders, the water companies pay interest on the bonds.

    Here comes the good bit...

    The leftover profits (4-5%) - currently overpaid to greedy directors and wasted on marketing(!) and God knows what else - get used to buy back the bonds on the market.

    About 15-20 years later, all the bonds will have been bought back, and we'll have a collection of water companies entirely owned by the British people, operated for the benefit of the British people.

    Then, consumers can enjoy reduced water bills and/or profits will be collected by the government, thus reducing the overall tax burden slightly.

    Meters would be mandantory for every customer. (Somehow FIND a way of

    fitting them to flats - even if it means putting them outside the

    building and running extra pipes to each unit)

    Profits would continue to be taxed, as they are now, so there'd be no change to revenues there. (They would continue to operate as indepenent companies, just like they are now, just with different shareholders...)

    This strategy (essentially re-nationalise using fixed-rate bonds) could of course be applied to the other utilities and national infrastructures. Everyone in the country would be a little better off, and the goverment would make a useful total income from the modest profits the companies would aim to make.

    All this would cost virtually nothing. No one would lose out (except the fat cats). We could do this now.

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