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Why banks are worse than loan sharks

Published 9 March 2010 in Get the best deal

In a surprising first, lovemoney.com defends the fees and rates charged by loan sharks. That’s because several high-street banks are much worse...

I’ve been a financial journalist since January 2003. During this time, I’ve condemned many poor-value financial products, especially payment protection insurance, extended warranties, store cards, and other high-street rip-offs.

I never expected to do this...

Today, in an abrupt U-turn, I’m going to praise (rather than denounce) payday-loan providers. Thanks to their mega-high interest rates, these short-term lenders are often lumped together with loan sharks. Then again, several leading high-street banks make payday-loan providers, home-credit lenders and loan sharks look positively charitable.

Be afraid. Be very afraid!

The high-street loan sharks

For instance, here’s a situation where you’d be miles better off going to a payday-loan provider (or perhaps even a loan shark?), rather than a high-street bank.

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According to one estimate, seven million British adults cannot borrow on the high street, so they are forced to seek credit elsewhere. These people can’t put another £100 on their overdraft or credit card, simply because they don’t have access to mainstream credit.

Let’s say that you badly need £100 to pay a vital bill, such as a gas, electricity or Council tax demand. For example, if you don’t pay up, then this service (or even your mobile) could be shut off, leaving you up the proverbial creek.

Therefore, if you need £100 in a hurry, what do you do? One way (and the wrong way) to solve this problem is to pay the bill from your current account and worry about any overdraft charges later. The snag here is that the fees and interest rates on unapproved overdrafts are shockingly high. Hence, even the cost of a small debt for a short time can be staggering.

Another alternative is to get a payday loan: a short-term loan which comes with an astronomically high interest rate -- in some cases, over 2,500% APR. You’d be crazy to choose a payday-loan provider over a respectable high-street bank, right?

Wrong. The following table shows the cost of a £100 unauthorised overdraft for 20 days at one payday-loan provider and four leading providers of current accounts:

Payday loan versus unapproved overdrafts

Lender

Charges

Total

repaid

speed-e-loans

£25.94

£125.94

Alliance & Leicester

£100.00

£200.00

Halifax

£100.00

£200.00

NatWest

£110.00

£210.00

Lloyds TSB

£200.00

£300.00

Source: speed-e-loans

Breakdown of charges: A&L and Halifax: £5 per day for 20 days; NatWest: £20 fee plus £90 maximum charge for returned items; Lloyds TSB: £20 per day for a maximum of 10 days.

As you can see, a 20-day payday loan would cost you £25.94 (made up of a one-off fee of £4.95, plus interest at almost 1% a day), for a mind-blowing APR of 2,686%. However, the unapproved overdrafts at four leading banks would cost between £100 and £200, making the payday loan the far cheaper option.

Incredible, isn’t it?

The big problem with APRs

Obviously, I’m not praising payday loans -- far from it. In fact, I’m actually attacking the cost of unapproved overdrafts.

Thanks to the quirks of the Annual Percentage Rate (APR) calculation, APRs do not provide meaningful comparisons in situations such as these. In fact, Halifax and the like can boldly advertise their overdrafts as being 0% APR, because they charges only fees and not interest. Alas, these fees are so high that they propel the true cost of this short-term borrowing into outer space.

I think that banks are being unfair and misleading by using high overdraft fees to disguise the true, underlying cost of borrowing. What’s more, it’s high time that the financial regulator acted to stamp out this sharp practice. Otherwise, dipping into the red for a few days will continue to cost an arm and a leg...

The easy way out

Of course, the easy way to avoid excessive fees and sky-high interest rates on borrowing is to plan ahead by budgeting in advance for big bills. Use our brand new online banking tool to help you keep track of your incomings and outgoings across all your different bank accounts and credit cards, and to categorise your transactions so you know what you are spending your money on.

Likewise, never go into the red without permission by running up an unapproved overdraft. Instead, contact your bank to arrange an approved overdraft or to increase your existing credit limit. This will be the cheapest option by far, costing a few pounds instead of hundreds.

In short, by talking to your bank before going overdrawn, you can avoid the ridiculous charges levied on unauthorised overdrafts. This could leave you hundreds of pounds better off each year. As stand-up comedian Michael McIntyre cheekily remarks, “It’s not rocket surgery!”

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Buzz80 said

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The fees at a&l are actually higher, as they not only charge £5 per day your overdrawn, they charge a fee of £25 for each payment honoured, so in that scenario, the fees would be at least 125, if not higher!! Legal daylight robbery if you ask me!

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If it is unautorised you will automatically get charged a letter fee as well, typically anoth £35.

However this is chalk and cheese, you are comparing an unauthorised overdraft, with an authorised loan, and to be fair and equitable, you should be showing figures for authorised overdrafts.

Not that the Halifax will be any better, but I do believe the others have a cap on the charged amount for authorised overdrafts.

dd said

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The "mind-blowing APR of 2,686%" quoted in the article is wildly wrong...

Does anyone know what it should be?

madfraggle said

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total guesstimate but at 1% per day plus a fee i would have said around 400% - still very steep

madfraggle said

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that said, do they charge interest on interest? I was assuming not...

madfraggle said

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APRs are also designed to be applied to loans lasting at least a year, if not many, and so automatically appear very high for any short term loan I believe

yada yada said

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Unauthorised overdraft. Isn't that like taking something without asking. Isn't that a bit like theft.

Getting off with a fee might be considered fortunate ;)

Crispvs said

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It's all very well advising people in financial trouble to speak to

their banks and arrange extensions to their overdraft facilities but

this does not necessarily work when people need it most.  Although in

an ideal world the bank should be happy to help you act in a

financially responsible way, they actually act in the opposite way for

many people.

Not so long ago I had the misfortune to lose my

job and found myself signing on for Jobseeker's Allowance and Housing

Benefit.  The Housing Benefit awarded worked out to be £16 per month

less tha my rent.  This might not seem much but when combined with the

fact that I was still committed to monthly car insurance payments for

at least the next seven months, as well as the bills for gas and

electricity used when the weather was cold and when I was not expecting

to suddenly find myself jobless, it proved to be the straw which broke

the camel's back.  After a couple of months of looking for a job and

living on JSA my rent payment put me over my overdraft limit by the

princely sum of £15, thanks to paying the shortfall in the rent to the

landlord, excaserbated by someone depositing a small cheque I had

written three months previously.  I had been attempting to live as

frugally as possible whilst I was searching for another job but JSA is

not designed to cover the costs of anything but the most basic of our

modern needs.  It is not enough to cover required payments towards

insurance or amounts agreed for payment plans towards utility bills

when in full employment.

Unfortunately, I had no savings thanks

to a fairly ruthless programme over the previous two and a half years

which had seen every spare penny going towards paying off arouynd £9000

in accumulated debts.  I had literally just made my final payment

towards this debt when I learned that the company I worked for had gone

into receivership and we all became redundant, with just a single day's

notice.  At least I had no debt to contend with when I lost my job but

I also had no savings to fall back on either.  In addition to that,

sloppy work by the reciever meant that the Insolvancy Service refused

to pay any redundancy money to any of the staff, most of whom,

including me, would have been due around £3000.

Going over my

limit caught me by surprise but having to necessarily live beyond my

suddenly meagre means was bound to have that effect fairly quickly

anyway.  I thought that the tight budget I had set myself was going to

get me through to the following week but unfortunately the cheque was

deposited the same day as the standing order went out for my rent and

the shortfall in the Housing Benefit meant there was not enough in the

account to absorb it, as well as putting me over my £500 limit in any

case.  Hey presto - a fifty pound bank charge (£25 for going over my

overdraft limit and £25 for honouring the £6 cheque which had been

deposited, and this with an income of only £64 per week).

I had

actually already made an appointment at the bank to discuss my finances

and hopefully get them to agree to a temporary £300 extension to my

overdraft facility but this had been set for the following week.  When

I went in to talk to the bank and made what I felt was a perfectly

reasonable request for a temporary extension to my overdraft, I was

already guilty in HSBC bank's eyes of irresponsible behaviour and so

the bank completerly ignored the fact that I had responsibly cleared my

debts and in all other respects had always managed my account

responsibly and chose to see the fact that I no longer had a credit

card (getting rid of the credit card was something I had done to avoid

compromising the repayments I had been making towards the debts) as an

indication that I was not a good enough customer to grant a paltry £300

overdraft extension to.  Instead they encouraged me to take out a loan

at 26% APR, which I decided against.  Luckily, I got myself back into

employment again before the next rent payment came due but the

experience was very sobering.  It seems that no matter how good a

customer you are, the bank will try to make as much money out of you as

they possibly can, and even when you do try to act responsibly all too

often they will prevent you from being able to do so.

Naturally,

as soon as I could, I started regularly saving the same amount of money

as I had previously been paying out to the now paid debts, in order

that should I find myself out of work again I will at least have a

small financial cushion to help me through, rather than having to go

begging to an ungrateful bank again.

IanDM said

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"The "mind-blowing APR of 2,686%" quoted in the article is wildly wrong... "

Seems to be correct according to an old copy of the OFT calculator.  APR works on some sort of net present value so that you cannot simply add up monthly payments.

Examples traditional Credit Union (much better than banks or payday loans) 1% per month on the outstandin balance is 12.68% not 12%

£1000 borrowed 1200 paid back is 20% if one lump payment at the end of a year but 41% if paid back as 12 monthly payments of £100.

APR is only really usueful as a comparison for loans over the same period

dd said

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dd said:  "The "mind-blowing APR of 2,686%" quoted in the article is wildly wrong... "

IanDM said:  "Seems to be correct according to an old copy of the OFT calculator."

You must have ignored the £4.95 fee...  APRs have to include all fees as well as interest.  I actually posted the true APR previously, but lovemoney doesn't seem interested in correcting their articles and deleted my post!

LoveKat said

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@dd

Just a quick note re the post removal mentioned above... The notice email sent out about it stated:

"You are very welcome to post calculation queries or corrections but please do not promote your own site while doing so."

So we do value your contribution and all queries and corrections are welcome as always.

I hope this helps.

IanDM said

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I think we are tripping over nomenclature here.

APR has a specific statutory definition that includes the total charge for credit - a rate that does not include that is not the APR. A lot of traders tripped over that in the early days, charging more for goods bought on credit but then incorrectly advertising 0% APR because they did not charge interest on the increased amount.

The 2000+rate is what has to be quoted legally.

A rough check leaving the £4.95 out still shows somewhere around 1000%

dd said

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IanDM said:  " ... APR has a specific statutory definition that includes the total charge for credit - a rate that does not include that is not the APR. A lot of traders tripped over that in the early days, charging more for goods bought on credit but then incorrectly advertising 0% APR because they did not charge interest on the increased amount."

... All OK so far ...

IanDM then said:  "The 2000+rate is what has to be quoted legally."

WRONG!!  That ignores the fee.  The (higher) APR I showed previously (now deleted) is the one that would need to be quoted by law as the APR.

IanDM finally said:  "A rough check leaving the £4.95 out still shows somewhere around 1000%"

Eh - how did you get that?

dd said

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@LoveKat

Hi LoveKat, I just thought that the link I included previously would help people to see how the APR varies with different interest rates & fees.  If my original post hadn't been deleted, then IanDM (and anyone else) could probably have seen more easily how the figure of 2,686% was wrong...

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Hi dd, please do post it, we'd very much appreciate it. It's only commercial links that we don't want, information is very very welcome, so please let us know!

thanks for your help as well.

Donna

dd said

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Donna Werbner said:  "Hi dd, please do post it, we'd very much appreciate it..."

OK then Donna, seeing as you asked so nicely ;) , here is my original post again:-

"APR's need to include all fees as well as interest, so that payday loan isn't only 2,686%, it's actually over 6,600% !!  :- http://calc-calc-calc.net/get/calc/accumulate-interest/v1/?begin=100&end=125.94&t=0.6575&t_U=mth

"The figure of 2,686% appears to only include the interest, not the £4.95 fee:- http://calc-calc-calc.net/get/calc/accumulate-interest/v1/?begin=100&end=120.00&t=0.6575&t_U=mth "

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As you can see, the figure of 2,686% quoted in the article is not the true APR (as required by law), because it doesn't allow for all fees (as described by IanDM).  Also, the article is wrong where it says "Halifax and the like can boldly advertise their overdrafts as being 0% APR, because they charges only fees and not interest" -- as IanDM says, it is illegal to quote an APR of 0% if there are fees, because the fees increase the APR...

Hope this helps!

dd

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