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The secret way banks monitor you

John Fitzsimons
by Lovemoney Staff John Fitzsimons on 26 June 2009  |  Comments 18 comments

High street banks are watching your behaviour like a hawk, supposedly for your own good. John Fitzsimons finds out what they are REALLY looking out for.

If you're confused about how banks decide who they will or will not give credit to, you're not the only one. Here are some of the typical questions lovemoney.com readers have asked about this topic on our excellent Q and A function:

Will it impact my application if I already have lots of credit cards? What about if I don't have any? How much damage does a missed payment cause? Or using my overdraft?

And all this confusion can cause a lot of fear and concern.

After all, when it comes to credit, the banks are following our every move.

Now, I want to throw some light onto exactly what it is they're up to - and why.

A wallet full of plastic

I have three credit cards. Is that a good or a bad number? What will banks think of it, should I want to remortgage soon?

As with everything in life, the number of credit cards you have is a matter of balance. If you don't have any, and have no history of paying off debt, then you don't stand a great chance of getting credit. Your best bet is to go along to your bank and discuss it with them.

However, for most of us, it's the opposite scenario - too many cards - that is the problem. If you do have a load of credit cards, it WILL count against you. A bank will not want to run the risk of overloading you with debt, as you may not be able to pay them back.

Just as big a problem is having a lot of unused cards. If a bank looks at your credit position, and sees three cards with plenty of credit left on them, they are unlikely to want to lend you more. Even though you are not using that credit right now, it is still available to you, and combined with a further loan there is potential for over-stretching.

So if you have paid off a credit card and have no intention of using it again, don't just leave it sitting in your wallet! Get it cancelled, and do it now!

Get registered on the electoral roll

A query we get quite regularly at lovemoney.com regards the impact that failing to register on the electoral roll can have on your credit report. This one is no myth - if you are not on the roll, you might hit problems getting credit.

This is because lenders use the electoral roll as a primary method of checking your name and address details are correct, so it is very important to get on there.

In addition, if your history shows a lot of changes of address in a relatively short period of time - say, three homes in three years - then lenders might be a little wary, as they like to see some stability from prospective borrowers.

But if you register on the electoral roll with each change, that damage is limited. Registering to vote is free and you can do most of it online. If you keep your named off the 'edited register', companies cannot buy your details.

The damage of a missed payment

I cannot emphasise enough how badly this hits your credit rating.

A single missed payment, whether it is for your credit card, mortgage or even your mobile phone, will stick out in any credit check and give lenders the perfect excuse to turn you down.

Even a single missed payment is enough to suggest financial 'mismanagement' and raises the possibility of further missed payments down the line.

Of course, sometimes there are extenuating circumstances behind a missed payment. If there is a justifiable reason for a missed payment - a family issue, or sudden unemployment perhaps - then you can add an explanation note to your credit report.

This will show up in future checks, so the next time you apply for credit, the provider will be able to take your explanation into consideration.

Multiple failed applications

When I was first turned down for a credit card, I made a daft mistake. I just accepted it. There was no explanation for why I had been rejected, and I opted not to pursue it.

Do not make the same mistake!

If you are turned down for credit, ALWAYS make sure you get an explanation for why. Banks are obliged to give you the principle reason for your rejection.

This is important, as if you simply apply elsewhere and get rejected again, this will stand out as a warning beacon in any future applications. If this then leads to a chain of rejections, then your credit rating begins to look a bit of a mess.

It may be a simple mistake that has led to being declined, but if you do not ask, you won't know what it is, and cannot fix it.

Correct any mistakes

You may feel that your credit report does not truly represent your position, in which case you might like to consider adding a Notice of Correction. This is a 200 word statement which you can add to your file to explain any entries in your credit report. Lenders are obliged to give the notice due attention, so it can be very handy.

There is a really good explanation of when you might like to use a Notice of Correction on the Equifax website, so if you are worried that your credit report does not give an accurate picture of your financial circumstances, be sure to have a read.

> Worried there are mistakes on your file? You can get a free credit report from Experian if you sign up for a 30-day trial. 

Using an overdraft

This is another area which is surrounded by great confusion. Banks are obviously watching the way we manage our money - does it count against us if we regularly use our overdraft?

Well, fear not, because no, it doesn't! Or rather, it does not matter, so long as you do not exceed your agreed overdraft limit. If you have an agreed overdraft limit of £250, and regularly go £200 overdrawn, don't worry because this does not show up at all on your record, and will not count against you.

It is only if you exceed your overdraft limit that you may face problems, as again, this is seen as a sign of poor financial management. So if you regularly go over your limit - even by £1 - you're in trouble. If you really can't afford to stay within your current limit, don't bury your head in the sand. Ask your bank if you can agree a new limit. And then make sure you stick to this. 

The three golden rules

When considering an application from a customer, banks will look at your overall financial behaviour before making a decision. So just follow the three golden rules, and you should be fine:

  • 1. Always pay all of your bills, on time
  • 2. Ensure you are registered on the electoral roll
  • 3. Close accounts with existing credit you no longer plan to use

If you abide by these three rules, then you will have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Remember, the banks are watching you.... Make sure they never have a reason to turn your application down.

More: What REALLY damages your credit rating | How to fight ID fraud

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Comments (18)

  • ThatLindseyGuy
    Love rating 114
    ThatLindseyGuy said

    Good article.

    My personal take on notices of correction (NOCs) is that they should be used with extreme care and then only to explain very light adverse data (e.g. one or two non-consecutive missed payments).

    When being assessed for credit, the presence of a NOC on your credit report halts any automated approval process and refers the application for manual approval (i.e. a human being looks at it and decides whether to accept or reject you instead of a computer algorithm).

    For any circumstances more serious than the odd missed payment, the manager looking at your application will almost certainly reject you anyway (they generally aren't interested in 'sob stories', for want of a better term) meaning that any effort put into writing a NOC will be a waste.

    If your credit is seriously impaired, it's probably better to leave NOCs off of your credit report -- that way there's still a chance that you could slip through the automated approval process if its been a while since any adverse information appeared on your credit report, particularly if applying for products toward the lower end of the personal credit market.

    Lastly, any entries on your report that are outright incorrect shouldn't be explained away with a NOC. Rather, you should ask the credit reference agency to have these corrected -- the institution that supplied the data is legally obliged to fix incorrect entries within 28 days of such a request.

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  • hughcharlesparker
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    hughcharlesparker said

    This is a great article, but it misses one key piece of advice: Apply for, read, and if necessary sort out your credit report before you apply for credit.

    My first mortgage was held up by a month, and I nearly lost the flat, all because of a company mobile phone bill that my former employer couldn't pay after they folded. It was easily dealt with by a Notice of Correction, but if I'd sorted it out when I first started looking for a flat, I'd have moved in a month earlier, and with much less stress.

    http://www.lovemoney.com/creditreport/

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  • SuziQ
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    SuziQ said

    This is a very informative article.

    With regard to the Experian free 30 day trial it is a great idea if you remember to cancel it within the 30 days because they take your bank details and set up a monthly direct debit (when I did it was £6.99) The worst bit was that I was abroad and could not cancel it via the web-site that taken all of my details to set it up!

    Apparently there policy is only to accept a phone call to cancel it, this was really inconvenient due to my time zone!

    Moral of this story: ALWAYS read the terms and conditions!

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  • ollibolliboo
    Love rating 6
    ollibolliboo said

    Hi all

    This is a timely article for me. I applied for a mortgage last week, and was told over the phone there'd be no problem. However, I was declined, on the basis of my credit report - and I was so incensed i got onto equifax immediately to check what it said.

    Blemish free, as far as I or my broker could see, so we challenged the decision and insisted that the report was checked manually, and it was then approved, and, in fact, fast tracked.

    There were two things which may have caused the computer issues initially.

    Firstly, I had paid off the many credit cards I have (in the interest free period mostly, which in my view is sensible financial management), but hadn't actually cancelled them. My mistake!

    Secondly, when they checked my record initially, my declared previous name was misspelt by the mortgage company's own operative, which seems to have created a further alias on my record, which I shall now need to address.

    So, take thatlindseyguy's advice and challenge decisions made by a computer, and get a person to make the decision.

    Take care all

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  • rjm23
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    rjm23 said

    I have had some odd experiences with rejected requests for credit cards as follows:

    1. I was rejected by one company on the basis of my creidt report from Experian.I got a copy of it and it was clean. So i contacted the company concerned and asked for more detailed reasons.It appears my wife had a bad "association". This turned out to be the person who bought our house from us who shared the same forename as my wife! This was not shown on our credit file so it must have been got by some related search based on adress! Experian however denied this was possible and no such association was on their records.

    2. I applied to Capital One for a credit card and was rejected out of hand. I rang them and they were very defensive about the reasons and refused to divulge them. It turned out they rejected me because i always paid off my cards- so they couldn't make any money out of me.!!

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  • rjm23
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    rjm23 said

    Note to the author. I know i am pain but... I think Principal in this context is spelt like this and not principle. Sorry....

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  • gordonbanks42
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    gordonbanks42 said

    @rjm23: I don't think you have any need to apologise for picking up on mistakes in spelling, grammar and so on, esp. when you see it done wrong by people who are paid to do it right. If you hadn't, I would have.

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  • jaymie
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    jaymie said

    A good article, although I have a few comments:

    • I agree with rjm23, I think you mean 'principal reason' (initial, main or first) rather than 'principle reason' (idea, concept or moral)

    • overdrafts DO show on your credit report, but as a credit account, which is what they are. They won't show as an anomaly in the monthly payments, however, unless you go truly overdrawn (i.e. over your agreed overdraft limit)

    • I don't think banks are 'watching you' any more than motorway cameras are 'watching you'. Surely their interest in you is triggered when you apply for credit?

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  • gardener
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    gardener said

    Even if you cancel credit cards, do check that they have actually been cancelled! I discovered in my credit report that credit cards cancelled (and acknowledged as cancelled by the banks) were still 'live' after 4 years! My credit report contained 28 mistakes, most of which Experian refused to correct, stating the corrections had to come from the institutes themselves - the same ones that made the mistakes in the first place-. These included wrong spellings of my name, wrong addresses, including ones I had never lived at, and credit I had never applied for or received! Be warned! 

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  • djcentrino
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    djcentrino said

    I think that the experian checks should be made available free to the person they contain information about. I think it is wrong to force people to pay to access information about themselves. The people who request the searches should fund the entire service because ultimately it is them which require information.

    I also thought that I was entitled to access any information about myself which is held on computer for free.

    Daniel

     

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  • urbanhacker
    Love rating 8
    urbanhacker said

    @djcentrino

    If it were the case that someone pay for accessing information on a person to protect their business came with a cost I imagine that cost would be passed onto their existing customers. Is that fair?

    The check is for the applicants benefit and initiated by them, if you only need quick minor access then you can for free anyway.

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  • PartingtonJ
    Love rating 1
    PartingtonJ said

    I have to agree with Daniel, DJCENTRINO, here. Credit rating should, as a right, be available to the individual and not a purchaseable piece of information.

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  • delinear
    Love rating 0
    delinear said

    Urbanhacker - I think those companies already pay to access that information (and so they're already passing that cost onto their customers), djcentrino's point was just that there shouldn't be an additional cost on us to access our own information.

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  • g-snev
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    g-snev said

    Good useful article.

    Note for all but especially rjm23 - Experian will send you a "Financial Disassociation" form if requested, even within their free 30 day period. Very useful for preventing previous partners or associates from making use of, or damaging, your credit rating.

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  • marrers
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    marrers said

    Let me sound a trumpet for the benefits of belonging to Experian. £6.99 a month is absolutely PEANUTS for the services they offer. For a start you can look at your report and get everything sorted to enable it to look as good as possible to a potential lender. Then any event concerning your affairs gets flagged up and you automatically get an email every time something happens on any of your accounts, whether it be a potential lender having a look or a significant change in the balance on an account. I confess I was going to cancel once I got my mortgage, but I think the small outlay is worth keeping an eye on everything.

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  • jual
    Love rating 1
    jual said

    I am starting to wonder if the companies who supply credit reports are just here to rip us off. I am looking to get a mortgage so I decided to check my credit report first only to find many mistakes on it. I have managed to get Experian to correct some of these but they are not even responding to me now. Of course I am having to pay them each month now so I can check that any errors have been corrected.

    Working on the theory that a mortgage company may go somewhere else other than Experian I thought I had better check Equifax and Callcredit of course. Equifax took my credit card details before letting me see my free report but it took 2 weeks before I could actually see it and then it won't let me add my old address so totally useless. I have queried this but again no reply. I wait to see if they are more helpful once they start taking money. Once I do get the full report I suspect I then have to try all over again to get errors put right.

    Finally Callcredit, they took payment for the next 3 months up front but then when I tried to log in I found I have to wait for a pin to arrive in the post. After a week I decided to contact them letting them know I've not received my pin, they responded saying that they are unable to verify me and have written to me. Why couldn't they have written to me sooner, I am still waiting.

    The money spent on these companies is now mounting up and I am getting nowhere. They have a licence to print money as far as I can see. My landlord need the house back that I rent and I will be homeless before I get it sorted the way it is going. I have explained this to them but still no reply. I will not even be in a position to rent another house as the estate agents still use these companies to do credit checks!

    Anyone got any ideas on how I can get them moving?

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  • rightoncommander
    Love rating 14
    rightoncommander said

    Just to clarify the legal situation, as far as I understand it, companies are entitled to make a small charge to cover their costs in providing the information to you under the Data Protection Act. Last time I did this, this charge was £2. However, I couldn't find out how to get this report when I just went onto the Experian website to check, so I've emailed their compliance team to find out how to request the information without signing up to one of their products.

    The service most people are complaining about paying for is their monitoring service. If you want them to monitor your credit rather than divulge the data they hold on request, you are asking them to provide you with a service, for which they are entitled to make a profitable charge.

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