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The end of free banking: winners and losers

Neil Faulkner
by Lovemoney Staff Neil Faulkner on 28 May 2012  |  Comments 34 comments

Free banking looks to be on its deathbed. We look at who will win as a result, and who will be left out of pocket.

The end of free banking: winners and losers

Banks want to end free banking. I'm not sure if that means customers should too.

Some politicians have bought the idea. Andrew Tyrie, head of the Treasury Select Committee, said: “It’s clear that almost everybody seems to agree that we must get to the point where customers know how the banks are charging and give account holders a genuine choice.”

He was responding to Bank of England director Andrew Bailey, who called free banking a “dangerous myth”. Bailey will become the head of the Prudential Regulation Authority, which replaces the Financial Services Authority in promoting a stable financial system.

Is charging fees the answer?

They've called free banking dangerous and said that it makes current account costs unclear. They have leapt from there to the conclusion that charging fees will make things better.

This politician's logic is a bit like the syllogism about all dogs having four legs, my cat does too, which means my cat is a dog. The politician's equivalent is:

We must do something!

This is something!

Therefore we must do it!

Is “free” banking dangerous?

Anyone who's in their overdraft knows they're not getting free banking. It's no dangerous secret for them.

What's dangerous is when they don't understand how high their debt charges and interest are, and the impact it will have on them long after their debt is gone, and for the rest of their lives.

Charging a current account fee, in addition to overdraft costs, won't make it any clearer.

The danger for people in credit also doesn't stem from a lack of account fees. It's that many of them don't take inflation seriously by shopping around for better interest rates.

For more, read Why your current account matters.

When “free” really is bad

Charging fees could make some things better. For starters, people might take shopping around for lower fees more seriously than they do trying to get a better interest rate.

Also, in some areas, such as financial advice, hidden costs are truly dangerous. Barclays is pulling out of the advice business, because the regulator is banning “free” advice from 2013. Advisers will no longer be allowed to take commission from the products they sell, and must charge fees instead.

Until now, Barclays has been convincing its customers that its products are great largely by telling them they're “free”. It has done this for so long that it can't now easily tell customers that the cost is just the same as they've always paid.

A banking fee will complicate things

The change from “free” investment advice to charging a fee is genuinely helpful for customers, since it exposes the full cost of extremely complicated and expensive investment products.

Adding a fee to ordinary bank accounts is a very different matter.

As it stands now, people in credit must merely compare what each bank will pay them in interest and cash gifts. People in their overdrafts must just compare the debt costs.

If banks start charging account fees as well, we'll have to compare both the banking fees and interest. One bank might offer you a low fee, but another might offset a higher fee with a better interest rate. Which is best for you?

Some banks might introduce complex, tiered rates of fees depending on your bank balance or the number of other products you own.

If the banks really crank up their smooth marketing operations, they'll throw in additional benefits – mostly useless ones, I would imagine – in order to justify even higher fees.

To add to the difficulty in comparing accounts, some banks might charge by transaction instead of a monthly fee.

Not everyone is pleased with the end of free banking

Consumer groups haven't been fooled. They've responded quickly with sensibly wary comments. Which? executive director Richard Lloyd said: “The idea that if banks charged more, they would stop trying to mis-sell other financial products is completely unfounded.”

Consumer Focus head Mike O'Connor said: “What mustn’t happen is that consumers end up with the worst of both worlds – paying for accounts but still enduring unfair charges, opaque and complex products, mis-selling and poor customer service.”

The most damning indictment

The most damning indictment of this idea, in my book, is that the British Bankers' Association seems to be in favour of abolishing free banking. It even sponsored a report that was very supportive of doing so.

In my experience, if this bankers' mouthpiece is happy with something, customers need to be deeply wary about it. Scarily, unless the timing is a big coincidence, the banks' report might even be the basis upon which this idea is gaining approval from Government.

The head of the British Bankers' Association, Angela Knight, referred to the fact that other countries, “both in Europe and elsewhere”, pay fees.

I can't speak for most of Europe, but I have four German current accounts and they operate like UK bank accounts, charging no fees. In any event, it's a naff argument saying “Everyone else has fees, therefore we should too.”

The winners and losers

The bankers' association wants to discuss the matter with the regulator, but let's say that the regulator stops listening to the bank lobby and instead starts listening to the consumer organisations.

If we're very lucky, the result will be that the many loopholes are closed. In that event, ending free banking would be fairer for the nation.

The main winners would be struggling debtors, who currently shoulder most of the cost of banking services through extortionate debt interest and penalty fees.

The losers would be people in credit, because they'd start paying more.

If charging current account fees does – somehow – lead to banks charging more fairly on other products, customers might benefit from cheaper insurance and investments.

More losers will be people who rarely switch. Banks will surely continually change their fees, so if you don't switch every few years you're going to suffer. But that's nothing new.

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Comments (34)

  • enrico bettonagli
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    enrico bettonagli said

    I think that if the banks start charging us fees it will make us look at something which will pay better interest - at the moment all we have is free banking because the interest on savings is ABSOLUTELY atrocious1

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  • JOHN MAXWELL
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    JOHN MAXWELL said

    ''free banking'' is a misnomer. there is no such thing as free, everything is paid for somewhere by someone. i lived in South Africa for many years and i paid for each transaction with the bank but the relativity of interest charged on borrowed money and the prime rate set by the Reserve Bank was transparent and easy to understand. every bank has a cake called profit (positive or negative), how that income is sliced can change but the cake will remain the same size.

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  • sodit
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    sodit said

    The whole point of free banking to encourage the public to leave its cash in the banks. If they start charging, then I would suggest that a lot of money will be left idle elsewhere... and I was under the impression that the banks were trying to boost their solvency ratios.

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  • jimgardner
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    jimgardner said

    If my bank decides to charge me for the privilege of holding my money I shall immediately move my account elsewhere and shall keep doing so as long as someone, somewhere, offers a current account withouth charging.

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  • tom031
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    tom031 said

    For the record I have two Dutch bank accounts and I would confirm that there are no fees, other than a small quarterly fee for holding a European bank card which operates as a debit card. There are no fees for credits to or debits from these accounts so I can agree with Neil on this. In the same way that UK bank accounts operate I receive no interest on the credit balances of my Dutch accounts.

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  • Mike10613
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    Mike10613 said

    They have tried this before and it didn't work. Some idiot in government makes a suggestion and people listen to them; that's the beginning of the end. Ignore the idiots, maybe they'll go away. Free banking works because it's efficient. Do we want the poorest in society paying a charge every time they use a cash machine like in America and privileged customers ( the rich) paying nothing. If anyone should pay for banking it should be the rich, not the poor. Maybe we should go back to using cash for all transactions and cancel all our direct debits.

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  • Alan Gallon
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    Alan Gallon said

    What a boost to crime this will be. The politicians are certainly going for the pickpocket and mugger vote. I rarely use cash these days, but if I am charged for having money in a bank account and for every debit card or cheque transaction, I'll go for the most basic cheapest bank account and just carry lots of currency. This will also create additional demand for our already very successful forgery business. Cash handling & transit activities should expand; and container-loads of home safes will be coming from China. Can anyone venture some individual share tips?

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  • isobelsgrandma
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    isobelsgrandma said

    I worked in high street banking from 1968 to 1978 during which time bank charges, generally per transaction, were the norm. I often complained that it was a grossly unfair system under which relatively wealthy customers, for whom you might be doing a lot of investment work, paid nothing at all and those who struggled from one month to the next, desperately trying to make ends meet, paid the most. Nothing new there of course: the rich get richer.........

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  • electricblue
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    electricblue said

    Not all cash machines are free in the UK and for the record, Mike, banking in the USA is no more expensive than here. I have a basic Bank of America account and there are no fees at their (many) cash machines, nor any fees to use in Barclays machines in the UK. There will always be free banking accounts in the UK because they are profitable for banks overall.

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  • JRAY100
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    JRAY100 said

    Should the basic banking model revert to banks borrowing (from those in credit) and lending at a sufficient higher differential to make a fair profit. Perhaps this would mean higher borrowing costs - even preventing housing booms - I remember paying the Abbey mortgage at a rate of 15% in 1980 and it increased within a couple of years!

    I think Neil should start a Peoples' Bank!

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  • MK22
    Love rating 142
    MK22 said

    There are no free bank accounts now. Inflation (real, RPI) is running at 3.5% (end April). Current accounts pay 0% interest (mostly, or near enough as with many savings accounts). So we are already paying a fee of 3.5% on our current accounts. Bearing in mind that I doubt many if any can get a loan at less than 5%, you could argue we are actually paying a fee of 5% on our so-called free bank accounts. To add any other charges on top of that would be usury in anyone's parlance. I don't care what job my MP expects to get when we boot him out in a couple of years, I've had enough of him and his colleagues rolling over and letting business tickle their tummies, so I will be writing to him asking him to ensure his Government consign this report to the shredder. If past contact is anything to go by, he will ignore my request.

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  • endersgame
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    endersgame said

    I have never paid for my bank accounts in The Netherlands, Denmark or Sweden.

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  • Snotmee
    Love rating 8
    Snotmee said

    I totally agree with the author of this article - if the Banker's Association are for this, then we should fight it tooth and nail. The Banking sector has lost an awful lot of goodwill over the past 4 or 5 years and this is not going to help them get any of it back.

    It sounds like they have taken a leaf out of the Coalition's book by using phrases like "simplification" and "transparency" to cover their objective of wringing more cash out of us.

    I also agree with the first poster MK22 - since Current Accounts (on the whole) don't pay interest then they are getting all our money free and the gains they make are considerable.

    I can only sympathise with people who are paying high charges because they are unable for one reason or another to maintain their accounts in credit. That however is no reason to start levying further charges against people who do maintain a credit balance. Don't forget some of the very lowest paid will be hit by this. It could be enough for some people to make the difference between staying in credit and being overdrawn each month.

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  • tuttogallo
    Love rating 75
    tuttogallo said

    Neil

    I agree that we should all be very worried by anything which is favoured by the British Bankers Association. I remember a TV interview in which Angela Knight was defending bankers' remuneration and bonuses. That must have been a truly uncomfortable experience for her. It was real black humour for the rest of us non bankers!

    I take the Warren Buffett view of this. The wealthy must pay more not less and anything which further disadvantages the poor must be stamped on. One way to encourage growth in the economy is to get more money to poorer people. They will spend it. The wealthy merely put any extra money into hedge funds where it is used to cause trouble.

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  • TheWizardOfUzz
    Love rating 10
    TheWizardOfUzz said

    I agree with this article and most of the comments posted so far.

    This seems to have come about because of the idea of splitting retail banking, which is not very profitable, away from Investment banking, which is supremely profitable.

    If controls were put in place to stop the investment bakers financing their bad judgment with cash from the public's coffers we would be OK.

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  • oldhenry
    Love rating 265
    oldhenry said

    It wasn't lonag ago the governmnet wanted cheques 'banished' . Their ideas of what we want are totally at odds with reality. The governmnet are capable of messing up almost anything in our lives.

    Hopefully there will be such a stink that it will be left to lie, as cheques scapping has been.

    I am sure competition would encourge a bank to grab market share by not having a charge- that is why I left Lloyds for the Coop in 1976 after all. Also it would mean a number of accounts would be closed, after all my wife and I have a number of current accounts which would be consolidated down to one should charges apply.

    As many have said I do pay the Coop through the lack of interest on my alway credit balalnce.

    But I must say the Coop have been an excellent bank in the 36 years that I have used them.

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  • gk141054
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    gk141054 said

    GREAT NEWS (sarcasm)... as usual we are dumbing down to the lowest denominator... idiots in society who are crap with money will benefit and people like me who are careful with my money, play the systems and shop around for the best deals will get shafted to subsidise the idiots... I love this country!

    Don't we at the moment have paid bank accounts AND "free" accounts... surely that is the preferrable option. That way people get to make a CHOICE!!!

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  • PhilJamesd
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    PhilJamesd said

    The grammar in this article is absolutely apalling. Hard really, to take anything it says seriously.

    The banking system in this country (and others) is an absolutely rip off as it is... - taxpayers are paying a ridiculous amount of money (interest) to banks, just to cover Government loans. Banks are making such a ridiculous amount of money, it's the main reason for unemployment and demise of our economy.

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  • aland55
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    aland55 said

    Hah! Yet another example of the headline being totally at odds with the main body of the article!

    If you read the article carefully it seems that no-one is actually advocating "the end of free banking", except possibly the Bankers' Association, which "seems to be in favour".

    More scaremongering by Lovemoney.

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  • msknight
    Love rating 31
    msknight said

    For a number of years now, the banks have got us to switch to electronic payment systems. Credit cards are the oldest and now they want to move us to, "pay by bonk," and contact-less systems. But they get a percentage in every of those transactions where, when cash changed hands they didn't get a percentage of anything. Of course, the shop owner pays this, but it comes back to us in our prices; just look at how effective Netto and Lidl were when they took cash only.

    My person opinion is now that they have their fingers in an ever increasing number of transactions that are made, and Internet shopping has taken off to a degree where a good portion of us use it regularly and the high street has taken a serious knock; they can deliver this killer blow now because our backs are against the corner.

    Greed. That's what it is. Anyone got a tent and a map to the latest Occupy protest?

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  • Chuckwallah
    Love rating 23
    Chuckwallah said

    A great many people, especially the lowest paid, only have bank accounts because of the demise of cash wage payments. If these people were forced to pay for their current accounts it would be plain and simple robbery.

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  • EastExpert
    Love rating 30
    EastExpert said

    In Russia, they often charge you a monthly fee for maintaining a current account, and often a fee for having a debit or credit card.

    But then, a current account can have 4-6% APR for those who are in credit, and a savings account can easily pay 10-13%.

    That clearly underlines the fact that when you give your money to your bank, you are DOING THEM A FAVOUR. And they pay for that favour.

    And by maintaining your credit card they are doing you a favour, so then you pay for it.

    Easy calculation... minus £5 a quarter (3 months) for having a current account with a debit card, free withdrawal from your own bank's ATM - and plus £15 a quarter when you have £1000 in a current account, or plus £30 when you have a savings account. Total is £10 and £25 correspondingly. For a quarter.

    In England, my £1000 brings me ZERO in a current account, and about £0.65 a quarter in a savings account.

    Do your math.

    I would be for this system, if the banks would pay me a fair interest on my savings. That is not gonna happen, they will again find a loophole to convince me that it's THEM who are doing me the service, and the fact I give them my money so they can benefit from them cost nothing.

    Therefore, I say "screw it, don't touch our free banking".

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  • JOHN MAXWELL
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    JOHN MAXWELL said

    i agree with comments made that if the banks want to do something it will be to the detriment of their customers

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  • philipwalduck
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    philipwalduck said

    If the governement allow the banks to end "free" banking then they must also repeal the laws which mean that most people are paid electronically. This will lead to an increase in armedrobberies and the amount of cash in circulation

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  • Arblaster
    Love rating 41
    Arblaster said

    EastExpert says: "But then, a current account [in Russia] can have 4-6% APR for those who are in credit, and a savings account can easily pay 10-13%."

    Hell, man! I'm going!

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  • PeterM42
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    PeterM42 said

    We must do something!

    This is something!

    Therefore we must do it! - Typical of this TOTALLY INCOMPETENT government. How long before the U-turn? (or are the banks too much up the government's backside?)

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  • polyphemus
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    polyphemus said

    If something needs to be done to prevent overcharging for overdrafts, bounced cheques etc then cap the charges - don't assume that the banks won't just take the upside from chargeable current accounts, and continue with the rip-offs.

    They overcharge because they can, not because they don't charge for current accounts.

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  • BritishBankers
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    BritishBankers said

    British Bankers' Association here. We are neither for nor against free banking. As a trade association - a representative body - we can play no role in how individual members charge for their services.

    The report you cite was sponsored by Accenture, and is called The State of the Banking Industry 2012. It therefore covers many more issues than simply free banking - you can get to it from our blog at http://www.bba.org.uk/blog/article/an-authoritative-look-at-the-future-of-banking.

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  • hopefultom
    Love rating 43
    hopefultom said

    @PhilJamesd

    On the subject of poor grammar what is an "absolutely rip off" ?

    @msknight

    I would be most interested to hear more about "pay by bonk".

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  • alanhs
    Love rating 4
    alanhs said

    Free banking !! No interest and they have our money to lend at huge rates. They want to ban cheques but have no ready alternative, they want to charge and some do for us to take our own money out via an ATM, when will bank transfers be chargeable - what do these people need all this money for? Bonuses?

    By the way when Scotland declares independence will the rest of the UK get paid by Scotland for bailing out all their bank that when bust Bank of Scotland, Royal Bank of Scotland, Halifax to name but a few.

    Amazing that we had Scottish Chancellors when the economy went bust, Scottish banks went bust and now surely we can get Alex Salmond to pay off all our debts in one feel swoop on the day. Did I see a pig flying past?

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  • zebraboy
    Love rating 2
    zebraboy said

    It'll just be yet another way for the fat cats to skim more cream and for Joe Public to pay for their greedy mistakes

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  • rpb
    Love rating 26
    rpb said

    Current accounts offer pathetic rates of interest. Therefore they are not "free" at the moment. Banks must be making a huge profit having us pay our salaries into current accounts, holding on to our money, lending it out, etc., and not having to pay competitive market rates for borrowing our money.

    And you hit it on the head there, Neil. The report claims that the costs of banking are hidden at the moment and charging fees will benefit us, but charging fees WILL complicate things. At the moment we can just compare interest rates, knowing whether we are the kind of people likely to be in credit or overdrawn. As soon as any fee is introduced it will make this choice/calculation virtually impossible for almost all of us, which in turn will lead to people making worse choices, paying more than necessary, and the banks making more profits. How dumb does Bailey think we are?

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  • electricblue
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    electricblue said

    A whole article has been spun from a report which didn't actually advocate the end of 'free' banking and no bank has actually been quoted as wanting to end it. Bailey also said, very correctly, that 'Free' banking was a 'dangerous myth'. I'd say Bailey perhaps has his opinion on how dumb the public are about right.

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  • jasper1
    Love rating 0
    jasper1 said

    atms branches call centres online banking debit cards etc dont pay from themselves yes banks arent totally innocent at times but sometimes consumers needs to stop believing everything they read in the press and blaming banks for everything. As for profit banks are a business they need to make a profit to continue business no one complains when Asda Tesco etc announce their profits so why should it be any different in banking. I personally think the country needs to take a good long hard look at how the country is in the state it is in. Banks didnt force customers to borrow money that they couldnt afford to pay back or make them go overdrawn everyone needs to take responsibilty for their financial standing and if they cant do that they should borrow or have a bank account and they would avoid and hassle.

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