My phonecall from a scammer

Tony Levene
by Lovemoney Staff Tony Levene on 07 July 2010  |  Comments 45 comments

Find out what happened when Tony Levene got a phonecall from a scammer....

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Ring, ring, goes the phone. By the echoes on the line, it can only be a low rent call from an Indian call centre.

I'm right as a heavily accented caller asks for Mr Anthony. Indians cold-calling never understand the difference between first and surnames.

He announces himself as “Alan”, not a common name in the sub-continent. I let this pass .

And although it is sometimes difficult to make out what he is saying, “Alan” says he represents “Your Reclaim” (which has no connection to yourreclaim.co.uk)* and he has good news for me.

But first he wants to know my debts on credit cards, personal loans and mortgages.

Wipe out debts

I pluck figures out of the air - £25,000 for the unsecured card and personal borrowings and £310,000 for the mortgage.

I then expected he would try to sell me a new loan or push me into an debt management service strategy.

But no, I had this wrong. “Alan” instead insisted he could both wipe out my debts and organise a refund of the payment protection insurance premiums I had already paid (his script assumed I had one of these useless policies).

Alan said he would transfer me to his supervisor who was “an expert in claims management and debt reclaiming”.

Before he did that, however, I had to answer a few “easy questions”.

He wanted to know when I had contracted the unsecured loans so I said March 2007. This seemed to please him.

But the next stage did not please me. He asked for my credit card number – to “make sure I was who I said I was.”

I countered by asking the name of his firm and what its website was called – after all, by now, he knew all my details (or at least those I had made up) so it was only fair that I should be aware of his.

“I am not authorised to give those details due to confidentiality , Mr Anthony,” was the astonishing reply.

“Not even a little clue,” I replied but wishing to extract as much as I could from this, I did not push too hard.

What happened next?

So, strictly in the interests of research, I made up a card number. He then asked me for the three digit code on the signature strip. I said 666 – that's the number of the Beast in the Book of Revelations but he failed to get the joke. The 666 is never used on cards (or on number plates!).

Alan then asked me to authorise £495 for an “assessment”, again refusing to give me any details of the company that would assess me. My attempts to ask this basic fact were met with a stonewalling refusal to answer the question.

Curious about Alan, I asked his surname. He said “Wilson”.

“Oh, Alan, one of my best friends has that name. Let's see how you are related and give me your details so I can put him in touch with you. I'm sure he never knew he had family in India,” I said.

Alan then terminated the call.

Had it continued as Alan planned, the following would have happened.

My credit card details would be available for use (no problem as they were false!) . And a dodgy firm would have taken £495 to produce a piece of paper saying: We've looked at your details and wish to tell you our assessment says you cannot reclaim either your payment protection insurance or wipe off your debts.”

The Ministry of Justice, which regulates claims companies, has shown no interest in this scam. Fair enough as I don't know the name of any UK firm. But it should do more to warn consumers.

Find out more about Tony and the Scam Magnet blog in our video!

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  • Jeff K
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    Jeff K said

    Tony

    I'm sorry to say your wrong about the 666 I had that as the secure code on a previous card but enjoyed the blog

    Jeff

    Report on 19 August 2010  |  Love thisLove  0 loves
  • krikarva
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    krikarva said

    I am being bombarded at the moment, a phone call a day!!! By some Asian call- centre idiots who tell me my computer has been playing up and they're calling to help me sort it out. One female caller last week actually said that she was my son's girlfriend and that he had asked her to call me.... hmm funny that... so, they call me up, ask me to go to my screen, log in, give my e mail and password... and we know what happens next.... I generally play along with them, and fiddle around, make a cup of tea and tell them that as they already know, my computer is awfully slow, due to the problems they already know about. I can keep them hanging on this way for up to half an hour.... one day last week I had some friends around when I got the call, so each of them took the call and used a different language - again, wasting the scammer's valuable time.... don't forget, they only get paid for results, so the longer you can keep them absorbed, the more trouble they get into when they report no 'deals'!! If you don't have the luxury of time on your side... get a cheap but incredibly effective whistle by your phone...and use it!! it must hurt them enormously! But, on the serious side, do tell any oldies who really are having problems with their computers, they really are the vulnerable ones. 

    Report on 27 January 2011  |  Love thisLove  0 loves

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