The scammers who open your post

Tony Levene
by Lovemoney Staff Tony Levene on 12 January 2011  |  Comments 9 comments

This scam is so sneaky you may not even realise it's happening to you.

While humans continue to use money, there will be rich and poor. And while some will try to move from relative poverty to the top of the tree of fortune via investment banking and astronomic bonus cheques, a few will try to move up the ladder through fraud.

It's always going to happen – no matter how many of these blogs I write to warn lovemoney.com fans of the dangers. But the wonderful aspect of protecting yourself against scams – as opposed to many other crimes – is that you don't need to be physically strong or surround your home with locks and alarms. You just need to be alert.

Scammers targeted my daughter

When my daughter moved her bank account from Nationwide (where she was fed up with the poor customer service) to Santander (which routinely comes bottom of the heap in customer service surveys) I thought she was jumping out of the frying pan and into the proverbial fire. Well, she's grown up and has a responsible job so she can make her own decisions.

She endured a laughable episode early on where Santander refused to pay a legitimate online transfer. It suspected “fraud” and after one attempt to contact her on her mobile (at 8.30am when, like so many London residents, she was on the underground and incapable of receiving a call), it decided that it had tried hard enough. It cancelled the payment. She sorted it out – and received £50 compensation for her time.

So she stuck with Santander. She fancied its credit card and applied. She was approved, signed all the agreements and received the plastic. Then Santander sent a second identical letter – presumably her response to the first crossed the second it in the post.

Now she was about to recycle the six pages of small print ing when she noticed the envelope. Most mass mailings from banks have no postmark – but this one did and was clearly marked “Cairo”. There was also some Arabic – presumably Cairo again plus a smudgy panel, again in Arabic. This would be difficult to decipher – even for an Arabic reader – but was presumably a slogan or advert.

Whatever the Arabic said, it was clear the missive had been sent to Cairo – that is why a first class letter took five days to arrive. And the envelope flap was not stuck down so someone may have had a look at the contents.

Now, assuming Royal Mail is not in the habit of sending mail from the Santander credit card centre in east London to a south London address four miles away via a four thousand mile detour to the Pyramids, what happened?

Transported to Egypt

The following is admittedly guesswork. The envelope was marked “Santander” and “Private and Confidential” so at some stage, someone must have decided the contents could prove profitable – perhaps a plastic card or details of an account. So it - and probably many others – may have been transported to Egypt where they could be examined at leisure.

Putting them back into the postal system is better than throwing them away as no one will miss them for a few days while if thousands never arrive someone might notice – the smaller number of letters that generated dividends would presumably never be redelivered.

Now the speed with which an organisation takes action or at least warns potential victims is paramount in tackling fraud. Banks were generally quick off the mark in revealing “phishing” scams (those phoney emails that ask for your account details) – after all they stood to lose.

The Financial Services Authority was slow in telling investors to steer clear of dodgy UK brokers such as the now very bust and disgraced broker Pacific Continental or the very many phoney land sales firms – in these and similar cases the FSA did not lose money so it had no incentive to act quickly although it did eventually.

Santander’s reaction

So how did Santander react when I took this problem to its press office? It listened and – to my great surprise – came back to me within two hours.

This seemed to me to be far too quick for an investigation which should take in Royal Mail, its own mail centres and perhaps the Egyptian authorities.

I was right. All Santander could do was to say it did not know why the mail went via Cairo. If I was concerned, I should contact Royal Mail.

But, sorry Santander, that's not really very helpful. You have a potential security problem here that has been brought to your attention. It could cost you and your customers dearly. So why not investigate the scam properly instead of dismissing it?

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  • Wellsprungalice
    Love rating 20
    Wellsprungalice said

    Santander took three weeks and seven hours of fruitless phone calls before it could explain to me why it had sent me a transaction slip - out of the blue - according to which a Santander account I did not recognise, in my maiden name had tried (and failed) to send £1000 to a bank account I do own, with the Co-op bank. They were trying to charge me for the transaction failure. I should say at this point, I do not bank with Santander.

    Only I do. I just didn't know I do.

    It turns out that, in transferring all accounts, including closed and moribund accounts, from Alliance and Leicester, Santander's software is reactivating old transfers, debits and standing orders.

    They finally sent a letter telling me it was their error (after seven hours and fifteen bank employees telling me it wasn't), but I did not receive an apology, and they cannot confirm the 'failed' transaction will not be on my credit file.

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  • Peter Steadman
    Love rating 1
    Peter Steadman said

    Santander ought first to investigate whether there is a problem at their mailing operation. Whether it's internal or sub-contracted, either can end up employing a rogue individual who regularly diverts a small proportion of items in just the way described in the article.

    However, the assumption Post = Royal Mail may be a false one.

    Many businesses use other postal suppliers - I used to be distribution director for a large publishing house. Businesses either buy directly by holding a contract with an operator like LaPoste, USPS or Deutsche Post, or they buy through wholesale "consolidators". These will spread the work around several postal networks.

    That does risk introducing another opportunity for fraud, although in my experience there are far fewer dubious operators in the UK consolidator sector now than was the case a decade or so ago. One went to prison after a lot of post was found at a landfill site. It rather shook up the industry.

    In short, a conversation with Santander's postal services buyer may prove more fruitful than the one with their PR contact. Santander certainly should be investigating whether there is an unexpected hole in their mailing security. And you're right - that is going to take rather more than two hours.

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  • hippobank
    Love rating 7
    hippobank said

    Anyone remember 90's film Mo' Money? Sounds almost like that!

    so far so good with Santander, their upsell over the till can be a bit annoying though!

    cheers hippobank

    moderator on UK Money Saving Forum - Saver Scene

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  • meldrewreborn
    Love rating 45
    meldrewreborn said

    A formal complaint should be raised, and taken to the appropriate regulator when Santander's inadequate response fails to satisfy.

    Clearly this mail went astray, either by accident or deliberately. Its the latter case that would worry us more as it could be systematic, while the former is probably not preventable. Santander could test whether mail is being systematically diverted by sending test mailings and asking customers to report when the mail is received (offering a reward would ensure compliance). Finding out where mail is being diverted would require trackable technology - researchers into birds seem to be able to track where they fly to via GPS receivers and microchips so it ought to be possible for letters.

    Unfortunately, the banks generally will do nothing to prevent this type of abuse until it is posing them huge problems, rather than addressing it as soon as it is first reported. They still deny that problems exist with chip and pin, instead they attack the academics who have proved that chip and pin can be compromised.

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  • darby1canardly
    Love rating 2
    darby1canardly said

    If you were not employed by a media organisation I can assure you you would have had to wait a lot longer to have Santander do anything about your problem. After waiting 6 months to transfer and close my Alliance & Leicester account I gave up and did it myself. Unfortunately I stopped Direct Debits too early and ended up having to pay charges. Not even an apology from Santander. Then my bookmaker paid a withdrawal into the closed account, ten weeks later and I still had not received my money. If it had not been for Cashcomplaints.com and the efforts of Annie Shaw of the Daily Express I am sure I would still be waiting for the money. In no time at all I had my money and a £20 compensation. Needless to say I won't be using this bank or the bookmaker ever again. The amount of time spent chasing my money at the rate bankers get paid I would be able to retire to the Bahamas now if they had paid me for my time!

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  • finnol49
    Love rating 22
    finnol49 said

    Several times my son's transfer cheques from credit card providers (Santander & Barclaycard) were stolen in the post. Now, I do not know where in the postal system these cheques were stolen - could have been by mugging the postman, but they were used without my son's knowledge or consent. Thankfully he does not get these any more, & the local villains (persistent low-level crime) have been ASBO'd out of the area.

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  • susanmad
    Love rating 0
    susanmad said

    7 months to resolve an issue with Santander is good. I was victim to fraud twice in 2009 with Santander and once with HSBC. First it was credit card fraud which Santander picked up and notified me of. The second time I realised something was wrong when I wanted cash back at a supermarket and my card was declined when I knew I had money in there as I had checked my account on line the night before. That evening I went on line and found that my account had been cleared out and taken into a overdraft. I raised this with the bank who said that two cheques had been cashed from a cheque book that had been sent to me. Despite me stating that I had not requested a replacement cheque book the bank refused to investigate and would not explain why two cheques had been cashed without the signature being cleared. I had to involve the FSA before anything could be done but it took almost a year to resolve this. I reported the theft to the police and the post office and apart from being given a crime number by the police no action was taken by either body. HSBC picked up the cheque book fraud and told me that they had a problem with cheque book theft from the local sorting office but again nothing was done with Royal Mail. It seems that customer service in this country is disappearing fast with no-one too bothered to do anything to improve it. Bring in Mary Portas.

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  • CuNNaXXa
    Love rating 362
    CuNNaXXa said

    Two facts to bare in mind.

    1) Thieves are highly ingenious at working out ways of stealing money. It is what they do, and they do it very well.

    2) The consumer will always pay for what the thieves steal, regardless of what protection the organisations who are targetted have put into place.

    Basically, if you have money stolen from you via any of the normal ways that thieves do, you will be refunded by the organisation who was responsible for protecting your money (ie. your bank), because it is their duty to do so under FSA rules, but that they will recover all losses directly via customer bank charges or indirectly through insurance claims. Either way, the loss is passed back to the consumer.

    We often hear that petty pilfering and shoplifting means that the cost is passed on to the consumer. What they are saying is this, 'The thieves may steal from us, but we will recoup by raising our prices, effectively stealing from you, the consumer'.

    No wonder the institutions and business in general has a nonchalant attitude to theft. They pass on the losses to us, regardless of who is at fault (directly via increases in consumer prices, or indirectly through increased insurance premiums). Businesses will never lose out to this sort of loss.

    (In fact, when I was an Operations Manager, we actually had a budget for losses, including theft and spoilage, and you will find most businesses budget for such losses anyway).

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  • poppasmurf
    Love rating 31
    poppasmurf said

    Note to self I will never use Santander.

    Seven months to sort out missing money, mygod.

    When this happened to me the Halifax refunded me within 3 days.

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