Property vs. Pensions

Donna Werbner
by Lovemoney Staff Donna Werbner on 18 February 2010  |  Comments 13 comments

How should you prepare for your retirement? Should you put your money into a pension, or should you rely on the house price growth of your property to pay for you in your dotage?

Today's debate is on what is the best investment for your retirement - a pension or a property? We asked Tom McPhail, from pensions provider Hargreaves Lansdown, and Steven Hilton, from the National Landlords Association, to tell us what they think.

Tom McPhail, Hargreaves Lansdown

For pensions

While for some people investing in a property as a retirement strategy will work, for most people it is likely to end in disappointment. For the majority, the simplicity, the risk controls and the tax breaks of a pension will prove a better bet.

More than any other issue, the reason that I'm very negative about property investing for retirement is that it can represent a huge concentration of risk. For many people this means that you aren't just betting on one asset class - property - you are betting on one or two assets, the individual properties. In portfolio risk control terms it doesn't actually matter what the asset class or assets are, it is fundamentally a very bad idea.

A growing population, diminishing household sizes, falling borrowing costs and increasing urbanisation have all driven property prices upwards over the past thirty years.

Some of these trends will continue, particularly the growing population and the urbanisation trend. Set against these factors are the increasing borrowing costs which are already apparent in spite of the record low level of Bank Base Rate, and the ageing of the population.

The baby boomers have been through the peak phase of their economic activity and they are now hitting retirement. Because of improvements to life expectancy when the next wave of boomers (those born in the 1960s) get to retirement, many of the first wave will still be there. All these people will be trying to release capital from their homes and convert it into an income, through equity release and downsizing. By then, the property market will look a very different place.

A broad buy-to-let portfolio would be much less risky, however for most investors this is simply an unrealistic proposition.

By contrast, a pension investor has many advantages in their favour. It is easy to get access to a pension, with sums of as little as £20 a month. Pensions come with tax breaks from the Government - contributions are increased by 25%, while investment growth is largely tax free. With a personal allowance from the age of 65 of £9,490 (2009/10), for many people a significant proportion of their retirement income will be tax free too.

Pension investors have the ability to manage their investment risk, from cash to commodity funds, from index linked Gilts to emerging markets, they can choose how, when and where they invest their savings. As an added bonus, from 2012 onwards, employers will be required by law to offer employees a pension contribution as part of their employment.

The stock market is back where it was ten years ago, prompting some commentators to suggest that investing in equities doesn't work. This isn't the first time this has happened though; between 1913 and 1922, 1936 and 1950 and 1969 and 1982 the stock market effectively moved sideways.

For long term investors, particularly those who are looking to put some money aside every month, a regular contribution from monthly salary into a basket of stock market based pension funds is the most efficient, the most accessible and probably the most rewarding way of saving for retirement. 

Steven Hilton, National Landlords Association

For property

Property or pension? That is the question. But what's the answer that will see us safely through retirement?

With nominal house price increases over the past 20 years at something like 600%, property investment may have its critics but who can argue with that level of growth?

Pensions in the UK remain not only complicated but also inflexible. Yes, there is some tax relief but with reliance on stock markets, your pension money is by no means guaranteed.

Property, on the other hand, is a physical asset with a track record of significant growth allowing owners to sell precisely when they wish. The sale proceeds can be used for anything.

However, when the time comes to cash in a pension - whatever might be left, depending on the financial advice you have (or have not) taken - it is the annuity which will provide the actual income through retirement. And here's the health warning. In order to maintain the lifestyle you enjoyed as a worker, your pension pot is going to have to be large in order to buy a half-decent annuity.

The arguments go on.

Property can be easily handed down to loved ones when you die. Pensions cannot.

Investing in property is also relatively low risk. A buy-to-let investor aims for their rental payments to cover the mortgage but they also benefit (hopefully) from long term capital growth. Landlords who know what they're doing have their eye on a long term game with the average landlord holding a property for 15 years.

So is this too easy?

Part of the problem with individuals who have invested in property is that they tend to be asset rich and income poor. But a planned and balanced approach to retirement, with diversification of investments, probably remains the most sensible way to enjoy your later years. After all, it is better to have been planning and saving for retirement in some way rather than not given the matter any thought at all.

So who's right: Tom or Steven? Don't let the debate end there - tell us what you think using the comments box below! 

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Comments (13)

  • fatmacslim
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    fatmacslim said

    I'm sure that the polarised views above are for effect. Surely the answer is to have a slice of both cakes?

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  • rossingrid
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    rossingrid said

    I agree with fatmacslim ... spread your risk!

    What's the saying!/ ... Don't put ALL your eggs in ONE basket!  

    Trouble is with both these options ... The time line is toooo long 20/40 yrs!And ... YOU dont have control of the variables during that time.

    I have a much better way!!? ... Send me a message & I'll tell you how!

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  • jojo1
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    jojo1 said

    on the property front, I have a single commercial property. The lease is about to expire and the tenant is not renewing. I now find that I, as owner, will be liable for the full business rates, after 6 months, if the property remains empty. I also cannot offset any related costs against other taxable income.

    Leaves me in favour of the pension route at present.

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  • ainso
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    ainso said

    Ok Rossingrid, spill the beans! I'd be interested to hear about your way please.

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  • kittzy
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    kittzy said

    Rossingrid, /message tell me how.. Synny@hotmail.com

    How much money do you have to invest in a pension to get a decent return?

    With my buy to let my tennant is paying my mortgage, any profit is overpaid into the mortgage ( a 25 year mortgage can be reduced to 10-15 years quite easily, after which time i will own the house and will be receiving a tidy income to invest elsewhere.

    Seems to me a no brainer, or did i miss something?

    keep it simples :)

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  • Landlord
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    Landlord said

    Have a look at your pension performance v your property performance. My employer pension has produced very low returns. Whereas my property portfolio (I have bought six investment properties over a 10 year period) have done spectacularly well by comparison. On the properties the rents have gone up 5-10% each year and the 6%pa capital gains have compounded in a tax-free environment. Of course I'll get hit with capital gains tax when I sell. But that will not be until I am retired in any case. 

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  • Hackerite
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    Hackerite said

    A couple of points which I think are worth a mention.

    A pension is usually for retirement. You sit back and collect each week.

    Investment in property, even a small portfolio can be a full time job, very time consuming and often a headache. Very rarely do things run smooth and to make any kind of profit you need a variety of skills to avoid paying other people.

    Yes there have been some excellent capital gains over the last twelve years but like anything else - Nothing is for Nothing.

    JC

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  • Landlord
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    Landlord said

    Yes I agree a property portfolio represents more work than simply depositing a regular amount into a pension which you can forget about. But property is not that onerous, your regular involvement means you know what's going on and the superior returns make it worthwhile. 

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  • DP130132
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    DP130132 said

    I received a Statement from PRUDENTIAL today, for my With Profits Annuity Yearly Statement.

    The enclosed letter says "Your With-profits Annuity has been designed to link your income to the investment performance of the With-Profits Fund."

    THE OVERALL RATE OF RETURN With effect from 01.03.2010 will be -5.50%

    NOTE: MINUS- FIVE POINT FIVE ZERO PER CENT!!! My "PENSION" since I was entitled to draw 14 years ago, has dropped more than 50%.

    I wonder what the Fund Managers salaries, bonuses, perks, costs, have done in that period. PENSIONS - forget it. NEVER put any money where you have no control

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  • opinionator
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    opinionator said

    Oooh, don't get me started! I deal with these questions in the course of my job. I could write pages on these topics. Therefore I shall just present some unqualified personal points of view here and expand on them if anyone asks:

    1. Most "ordinary people" are being short-changed by the mainstream investment industry. This is not a conspiracy or anything dishonest, it is the inevitable result of widespread financial ignorance combined with a nanny state. "Rich people" generally get a better deal by having access to specialist advisers.

    2. Pensions come with very generous tax breaks, making it almost a no-brainer to put at least a good chunk of long-term savings into one. This is especially so for a high-rate taxpayer who would effectively see a 66% growth even if no investments are made.

    3. Property vs. Pension is a false trade-off. You can include property in a pension, either in the form of a mainstream managed property fund or do it yourself via a SIPP. In fact, you can potentially include many weird and wonderful investments in a SIPP with as much or as little personal control as you like, as well as the standard stock market or property funds.

    4. Investing is a single Buy-To-Let property with a mortgage is riskier than investing in a broad-based stock market fund. The former is a leveraged investment which can leave you owing more than you started with in the first place.

    In the regulated world of mainstream investment funds, a BTL property with a mortgage would have to be presented as "extremely risky"!

    5. Maybe the answer to point 4 is to make sure you are in a good position to sit it out and wait - property prices will always recover in the long term. Therefore the real risk is not so high. Okay, but that also applies to the stock market. So why then is "the stock market" considered so much riskier than rental property? Pure misunderstanding I say.

    6. There is a whole lot more out there than rental property or managed funds. For those who want to take more personal control of their long-term savings (whether within a pension or not) there is a wealth of opportunity, but... much lies outside the scope of the mainstream investment industry.

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  • DP130132
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    DP130132 said

    OK, I have told you all what has happened, and what the future looks like, for my private pension, which I paid into for many years.

    Possibly, my experience is an exception????

    Could we hear from some, or anyone, if there is one, who is drawing their private pension and can say that it is a good, fair,even satisfactory return from the original "pension pot"!!!

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  • creative
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    creative said

    Rossingrid - are you open to telling others - if so how to contact?

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  • value-investor
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    value-investor said

    I would suggest that property has in principle more risk. Yes a few unlucky landlords have bought properties which are now worth less than their mortgages - a negative return on their investment. This happened often with new-build properties sold at optimistic values. With a traditional pension there is no risk of negative value, but the returns can be disappointing nevertheless.

    On the other hand property offers far more control than a pension fund. Pension assets are generally managed by fund managers. Some self-select pensions can let investors choose their portfolios. But once they have bought their shares, investors have no control on how the companies are managed. Overall pension fund investors have minimal control on the underlying assets.

    For those who want control and are ready to take on a little more risk (and debt), the returns on property can be far different. 

     

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