The ownership of pensions

Ed Bowsher
by Lovemoney Staff Ed Bowsher on 15 June 2009  |  Comments 2 comments

Pension savers should only be taxed once on their pension.

This is a great post on Steve Bee's BeeHive blog.

Here's the money quote:

'There should be no chance whatsoever that someone could be taxed twice on money put aside for the future. When we defer income we defer the day we pay tax on that income; that's what pensions are all about. We don't know what the tax rates will be in the far future when we choose today to defer income; we're taking a leap of faith that tax rates won't be astronomically high and hope that if enough of use defer our income in this way that in itself will help keep tax rates low in future.'

Steve is right. I fear that politicians will look for ways to double tax pensions. In fact, you could say that they've already done so for people who earn more than £150,000 a year.

Double taxation an interesting point to bear in mind if you're wondering whether to save for your retirement via a conventional pension or via an ISA. If you think that tax rates are likely to be higher when you retire, there's an argument for saying you should save in an ISA where you're paying the tax now instead of in your old age.

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  • jasamcd
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    jasamcd said

    The government has already introduced double taxation on anyone who was fortunate enough to earn over £150,000 in any one of the past 2 years or in the current year. And in two years time, anyone with earning above the basic tax rate threshold will be in the same position, i.e. paying double taxation on pension contributions. And it basically means that for anyone in these categories, it makes no sense whatsoever to invest in a pension. How can this be good public policy?

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  • gordonbanks42
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    gordonbanks42 said

    Can't but agree with the sentiment, but what does the word "should" ("there should be no chance whatsoever that...") actually mean here?

    What is there to stop future politicians, in their capacity as legislators, from doing this?

    This country appears to have no legal framework to stop the legislators of the day from doing pretty much what they please in a wide range of policy areas. In other countries they have a thing called a "constitution". In some respects our "un-constitution" works rather well and in others it is sadly lacking going on non-existent. The area of pension provision and taxation is one of them.

    I am very worried that in many respects it is only the fact that we have subordinated our law-making and juducial processes to those of the EU that provides us with anything remotely resembling constitutional protections.

    What makes me worried about that is that the cultural, legal and constitutional traditions of most of the countries that make up the EU are very different from England's. (btw, I am aware that Wales, Scotland and NI form part of this picture, but they too are different from England. I am English and for this purpose I can only speak as such). We can't rely on the EU to uphold Englishness.

    Also the present make-up of the EU institutions leaves a lot to be desired in and of itself. The idea of relying on those institutions to protect us is at once laughable and chilling. 

    So, by a roundabout route, I come to the conclusion that the best way to secure long-term pensions justice in this country is to leave the EU and put in place a proper written constitution with a separate and independent constitutional court.

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